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Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts.

Posted By: Countrycruising

Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 20/03/2023 09:24

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/launch-of-life-saving-public-emergency-alerts

Feelings?
Posted By: Alansclark

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 20/03/2023 10:02

Although I have nothing to hide. I am not happy that the government would know exactly where I am all the time. Also if a nuclear bomb is on its way I would rather not know.
Posted By: Jamiepm

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 20/03/2023 10:47

I'm guessing it's geared around the various wars around the globe and particularly the Ukraine situation and the recent ICC arrest warrant for Putin.

As we've all had access to smartphones for quite some time, our lives are tracked anyway via the various social media platforms, albeit if this one were to be activated it could well be a say your goodbyes to everyone!!
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 20/03/2023 10:49

It's been operational in NL for some time so probably not surprising it's arrived here.

We have so much tracking baggage attached to our smart devices it's unusual for anyone not to know where we are frown


edit: sorry, hadn't seen post above!
Posted By: PaulL

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 20/03/2023 14:45

Will it help us Old Age Pensioners know whether we are coming or going ?
Posted By: Countrycruising

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 21/03/2023 09:48

We live in interesting times, kinda reminds me of the stories of the Cold war, but of course this public service is purely to inform us for our good chinny
Posted By: PeteP

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 21/03/2023 12:02

I wonder how long before other forms of lowlife get to hack them?

You could have a lot of fun doing that.

Originally Posted by government
Does the Government use my personal data to send an emergency alert?

No. The system uses the cell tower your phone is connected to. When an alert is triggered,
all towers in the area will broadcast the alert. To do this the Government does not need to
know the specific location or personal data on your device.

Lets have a go at those towers around Heathrow for starters.
Posted By: Countrycruising

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 21/03/2023 14:59

Originally Posted by PeteP
I wonder how long before other forms of lowlife get to hack them?

You could have a lot of fun doing that.

Originally Posted by government
Does the Government use my personal data to send an emergency alert?

No. The system uses the cell tower your phone is connected to. When an alert is triggered,
all towers in the area will broadcast the alert. To do this the Government does not need to
know the specific location or personal data on your device.

Lets have a go at those towers around Heathrow for starters.


I bet within a week of it going live Pete, I know I'll probably get some fresh spam mail, lol
Posted By: Barmybob

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 23/03/2023 16:45

I don't believe that the system is actually tracking your phone, it will just broadcast from a set number of masts. If you are located near one of those masts you will receive the message.

Somewhat shocked that I've managed to get to be the age I am without ever thinking of any time when this would have been useful.



Posted By: barnacle

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/03/2023 09:13

BB is correct; it's a one way signal to any phone in range. Which is why my UK sim card in Germany won't get the test; they don't care about the number as they're working at a lower level in the protocol stack.

Governments generally don't want to track you anyway; they find it easier to let the googles and facebooks and tiktoks and whatevers do the job for them and then grab the data. If you don't need the location services, turn 'em off. The phone system has to know where you are to the nearest cell tower so it can send a call to you, or data, but it doesn't need exact location, only signal strength.

How do you feel about eCall? https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-t...ated-emergency-call-technology-explained

There is a system which I'm sure they swear blind will never be used to track you or auto report if you went through a 20 zone at 21, or a motorway at a ton...
Posted By: Barmybob

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 22/04/2023 14:48

Some of the fancy new breed of vehicles don't just monitor how the car is being driven, they monitor the driver for alertness and concentration.

You just know that a legal case will arrive where a manufacturer will produce a detailed report on a driver. It will show if they were an habitual speeder, or had regularly periods of poor concentration, particularly during automated driving.
Posted By: clanger

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 22/04/2023 19:33

Pavlov's Dog springs to mind
Posted By: Barmybob

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 23/04/2023 07:43

But to what response shall we be expected to associate this loud noise?

I already have sufficient food stimuli in my life, so I do hope it's not that laugh

Seems to me that the responses of many has been apathy. I'm sure that's far from the desired and intended response they were hoping for chinny

My own personal response has been to "Turn It Off" though it could be interesting to discover what happens with the sims in my cars.



Posted By: PaulL

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 23/04/2023 14:40

Damn

I missed it
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 23/04/2023 17:19

Originally Posted by PaulL
Damn

I missed it


laugh
Posted By: Alansclark

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 24/04/2023 14:53

Apparently the three network didn’t send any notifications 😂
Posted By: barnacle

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 25/04/2023 11:58

Well nothing happened here! tongue
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 25/04/2023 16:29

Nothing on my steam driven Nokia flip phone either. smile
Posted By: respace

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/04/2023 08:51

weirdly all our android phones are on the same network 1 went off the other 2 didn't (in the same house), 1of our work Apples did the other didn't. We've got terrible reception here so the first we'll hear is a Russian with snow on his boots knocking down our door.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/04/2023 11:59

Originally Posted by respace
the first we'll hear is a Russian with snow on his boots knocking down our door.



Unusual ringtone you have there, respace...
Posted By: respace

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/04/2023 12:53

I think it's a Rimsky-Kalashnikov
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/04/2023 13:29

Originally Posted by respace
I think it's a Rimsky-Kalashnikov


Oh my Scheherazade, it's clearly the Lord of the Rings shocked
Posted By: respace

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/04/2023 13:43

The great bell of Kiev with a bit of the 1812 thrown in.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Launch of life-saving public emergency alerts. - 26/04/2023 18:53

A Symphony of Alarms
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