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244.3bhp & 285ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 *updated*

Posted By: Anonymous

244.3bhp & 285ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 *updated* - 11/03/2010 18:12

I had my latest Coupe 16vT rolling roaded up at Dynotech Hayes Engineering and am very pleased with the result.

The mods on my car include:

Dink Stage 1 Chip
Scorpion cat back exhaust
Gutted cat
Open cone filter
Uprated EBV Solenoid
NGK B8EGV Plugs

Here's 2 of my graphs. I also have AFR and tractive effort if anyone's interested.

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Boost was hit 1.4 bar briefly and max power was acheived at around 4000rpm at 1.2 bar which is nice and LOTS of torque. More than any of my others!

Sadly my clutch was slipping on the dyno hence the torque dropping off. Bob, my good friend and dyno operator said it would be a strong 240bhp if the clutch was tip top thusly making it my most powerful owned Coupe to date. (More powerful than my 20vt with GTEC 1 and breathing mods *cough*)

Awaits the debates...lol!

Posted By: Trappy

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 11/03/2010 21:05

I'm sure the clutch would only slip around the peak torque and then grab again further up the rev range? You cold try turning the boost down a bit with a PRV to reduce the slip, but I'm assuming you have the uprated EBV to keep standard chip saftey features...

I'm surprised that it holds 1bar at the redline though.

Massive torque there though, no wonder the standard cutch was slipping! Really sharp spike also... Nothing like the curve you get on a 20vT is it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 12/03/2010 01:26

I've got the uprated EBV installed yep! On the road it's ok, you can tell it slips a touch but then is ok thereafter.

Yep I've never seen it go below 1 bar and thats up to the limiter even in 3rd and I tend not to hit the limiter often, I just wanted to see.

Huge torque I agree, more than my other 16vt's. The curve shows just aggressive the car is coming onto boost...madness!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 12/03/2010 14:31

Get a bigger downpipe, did wonders for my 16VT.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 14/03/2010 23:52

Oooh like a 3" jobby? Have to be fabricated though dont they?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 23/03/2010 16:11

Not too bad for a stageI + slipping clutch.
I reckon the chip was a good investment?

You should try stage III next cool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 23/03/2010 23:05

Stage II is the next step I'm going for which is going to involve emptying my wallet lol!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 13/04/2010 09:50

ive yet to test the stage 2 dink when the new clutch is on we will see im optimistic for circa 280+bhp

Thats a very good reading if compared to other stage 1 16vt's certainly better than the evo chip
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 13/04/2010 13:09

Cheers bud smile

It was ever-so-slightly rich too so I can't complain!
Posted By: Saint

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 13/04/2010 23:29

That is huge torque for your setup, never seen that much on an OE turbo setup - you should be happy.

No doubt dink writes a good chip, if you havn't got the 3" DP get it. The standard turbo will be maxed out at that boost up high - ie 1 bar is all you will get over 5000rpm

Time for a bigger turbo and a bigger chip.

Got a FMIC?

I make only 280ft/lbs and my mod list is alot longer (read more expensive) so you should be pleased, you just need to build a wider power band which those other mods will give you (DP, Turbo, FMIC, Stage 2-3 chip)

Cheers
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 14/04/2010 00:09

Thanks Saint, to drive it is super aggressive and you certainly feel the big chunk of torque, not to mention it holding just a over bar right up to redline I'm well chuffed.

FMIC and 3" Downpipe are definitely next, then I'll gradually build up the parts to stage 2 once my stock turbo wears out.
Posted By: Saint

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 14/04/2010 00:45

Its about widening out the torque band IMHO, with mine as an example it hold 280ft flat 4000-6000rpm and then over 260ft to 6500rpm, this make it quick on the road (and the headline BHP higher) but it's a thick power band (this area under the graph people talk about)

I'll ignore the clutch but the torque on the OE setup quickly drops away in anycase

So don't be worried if you spend coin and still only make 280ft/lbs, it is where and how you make it that makes the difference. and it will be more super agressive wink
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 14/04/2010 01:26

I know exactly what you're saying Saint and totally agree, to have that torque for a long period would be naughty!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 23/04/2010 15:47

It makes me happy to hear you are pleased with the results.
Needless to say your engine is in good shape.

I'm currently in the process of mapping my engine on E85 fuel 1000CC injectors + aquamist + waterspray + kappa intake manifold + flowed head + and T3/T4OE @ 22psi. I'm not sure how much power it makes yet but i get the same whallop of torque as in my Corvette Z06 and it's enough to make me consider a 4WD conversion tongue

16VT's rule!


p.s. Paul, long time no hear. I'll mail you shortly wink
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 23/04/2010 16:09

16VT's definitely do rule. Especially with the amount of torque the car's producing on the road it feels like an animal! I love it!

Thanks Dink!
Posted By: Freddan72

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 24/04/2010 17:00

Originally Posted By: dink
It makes me happy to hear you are pleased with the results.
Needless to say your engine is in good shape.

I'm currently in the process of mapping my engine on E85 fuel 1000CC injectors + aquamist + waterspray + kappa intake manifold + flowed head + and T3/T4OE @ 22psi. I'm not sure how much power it makes yet but i get the same whallop of torque as in my Corvette Z06 and it's enough to make me consider a 4WD conversion tongue

16VT's rule!


p.s. Paul, long time no hear. I'll mail you shortly wink

E85 is a really good fuel for turbo engines laugh . Can you see a big difference in ignition advance with E85 if you compare it with 95 RON?
What have you changed besides injectors? Fuel pump, FPR, fuel lines etc.

20vt rules wink
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 26/04/2010 19:32

Didcoop are you going to be stealing the show on Sunday?!!?!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 26/04/2010 20:24

I very much doubt it with a 16vt although it can be the "Underdog" maybe...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 27/04/2010 11:38

Either way im definitely looking forward to it. Neal's coming along with me (seeing as it's his old car!) Probably should get the polish out laugh

An congrats on such a good power from the ickle 16vt laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 27/04/2010 12:13

Yeah she's a demon, haven't driven it in over a week now though, sitting in the sprayshop getting made pretty lol!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 04/05/2010 19:41

Had the car dyno'd again at the same place this weekend on the Dyno day and got much better results!

The car came on boost less aggressively which stopped the clutch slip plus I went round the block to properly warm it up and this time the result speaks for itself...

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244.3bhp and 285ft lb torque. Very very pleased with these results! The car must like it's new paint lol!

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 05/05/2010 09:32

244 bhp with around 1,08 bar of boost cool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 05/05/2010 10:03

A "Dink" Stage 1 16vt running well smile
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 236.8bhp & 280ft lb 16vt Dink Stage 1 - 05/05/2010 12:59

It lookst good, turbo is kicking in a bit on the late side but it's not too far off.

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