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It started with a squeak :shocked: #530579
28/01/2008 01:31
28/01/2008 01:31
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Yesterday when I took my Coop out for a run to the shops I noticed an annoying squeak that wasn`t going away when pressing my brakes so I put it down to being a heat shield rubbing .

Today I went a run to the Odeon in Kilmarnock and the noise was still there but it was slightly louder. By the time i`d got to the cinema it was a lot louder \:o . I started thinking it was going to be a wheel bearing but it sounded more like rubber against rubber so I tried to get a look behind the wheel but everything seemed to be in order \:\? .

On the road back home I got through a couple of roundabouts and I started to feel a slight vibration through the wheel so I slowed down a took it easy,hoping to just nurse the car home thinking about when I could find the time to change the bearing. All the time the vibration was getting worse and so just as I had nearly resigned myself to calling my Dad out for a recovery it went with a thud,thud,thud.

I had stopped just after a lay-by and so managed to reverse back to it and got out to have a look. What greeted me was not what I expected though \:o .

Wheel 01

Wheel 02

Wheel 03

I initially thought that the bearing had went and the wheel had slip with hitting the caliper but there was no damage to the brakes. After fitting the spare on (yes,the space saver does fit over the Brembos with no problems) I gave the wheel a spin and checked for play but everything was fine \:\? .

In ownership of the car i`ve never hit any severe pot-holes so I can only assume the it has been slightly damaged before I got my Coop (1 and a half years ago) or it`s been down to some flaw in the alloy thats just reached its breaking point now \:\/ .

I`m just glad it didn`t decided to break on a corner at speed \:o . Guess i`m looking for an alloy/s now,Carl? ;\) .

Baz \:\)


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530585
28/01/2008 01:34
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as ya say lease it didn't go at speed

never seen that before

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530587
28/01/2008 01:35
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I bet if you shot blast all the crap off that wheel you will find a real old dirty repair. \:\( Some wheel repairers heat the wheels to get them straight again, im not so sure it does them any good. \:\(

Lucky you got it when you did. \:o

And yes the space saver is perfect for the brembo's. If people say space saver doesn't fit its NOT a 20vt one! There's nothing more to it. A 20vt space saver is fine, if its off any other model it doesn't clear.

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530589
28/01/2008 01:36
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Fccuk me! What would have caused that, must be a flaw? Could have been catastrophic at speed, you were lucky in some ways.

Never seen anything like it! \:s

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: ] #530591
28/01/2008 01:37
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wow that's shocking!!
never seen an alloy break like that, thank god you weren't going at speed and have it go completely!!

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28/01/2008 01:37
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Scary!! I'm going to check mine tomorrow \:o


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: ] #530593
28/01/2008 01:37
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Cor blimey, that could've been nasty \:o

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530594
28/01/2008 01:38
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I am amazed that you didn't have a serious accident!!!


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530595
28/01/2008 01:38
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Wow...when i clicked those links I certainly wasn't expecting that! Thats crrrrazy.

I guess you should be thankful it didn't go on all 4 spokes \:s That would have been nasty.



Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Vinno] #530598
28/01/2008 01:42
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I was only going about 30/40mph just in-case the (what I assumed to be) bearing decided to collapse on me as it got noisy fairly rapid \:o .

Baz \:\)


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: ] #530599
28/01/2008 01:43
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 Originally Posted By: coupedave
wow that's shocking!!
never seen an alloy break like that, thank god you weren't going at speed and have it go completely!!


I have some pics of alloy motorbike wheels failing in a similar fashion (Italian made as well). Although, I think Carl is correct that there has been a poor repair on these in the past.

Glad you are okay though.

John

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: ] #530612
28/01/2008 01:59
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OMG! \:o

Like everyone else has said, you've been bleedin' lucky that didn't let go at speed! \:o

I've seen plenty of wheels like that after an accident but seldom seen one that bad before an accident!

That's going to give me nightmares now! °\(


You should put a lottery ticket on now, escaping that without injury is nothing short of a miracle!


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: stan] #530619
28/01/2008 02:03
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Fccuking hell \:o

Never seen that before \:o

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: stan] #530624
28/01/2008 02:09
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 Originally Posted By: stan
You should put a lottery ticket on now, escaping that without injury is nothing short of a miracle!


Tried that yesterday,i`m just glad my luck decided to wait for today \:D .

I can`t get over how it sounded just like rubber squeaking though,I was even gonna spray some silicone on the driveshaft gaitor to see if the noise went away too . TBH I never even looked at the wheel as I had no reason to think I had damaged it and concentrated on the hub/CV joint for possible causes and so never noticed if there were any hair line cracks on the spokes.

Baz \:\)


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530627
28/01/2008 02:14
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Bad luck mate \:\(


Do you want a loan of a standard wheel to get you about?

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: stan] #530629
28/01/2008 02:14
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Very lucky escape!!! hope the other x3 don`t have the same problem(duff dodgy repair)??? get a new set of 17s??? peace of mind..that would be my excuse \:D


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: flyingcustard] #530639
28/01/2008 02:22
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In over six years on this forum, that's the first wheel failure I've heard about

I'd really like to know if there has been a repair on that wheel - I guess it would be traceable through previous owners

the consequences of it letting go at motorway speeds are unthinkable - remember what happened to Sammiboo when her rear wheel came off? (badly fitted hub IIRC) - having the front come off would surely spit you straight off the road.


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: flyingcustard] #530645
28/01/2008 02:26
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WOW, My mate had an alloy wheel go on one of his cars, he had smaked it hard a few days before, ever since he has always put steel wheels on a car, thought he was being paranoid but after seeing that...... \:o

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Nigel] #530653
28/01/2008 02:31
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 Originally Posted By: Nigel
I'd really like to know if there has been a repair on that wheel - I guess it would be traceable through previous owners


I`m gonna find out from the previous owner if there has been any repairs done to the wheel,plus i`ll have a good look round all the wheels in the daylight tomorrow.

Baz \:\)


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530669
28/01/2008 02:46
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wow \:o ive never seen that before
think i might just check mine at work tomorrow just to be on the safe side
and if my wheels go missing tonight baz i know where you live \:D

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: ] #530754
28/01/2008 04:19
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that is savage! if you ring steve at AA he has a brand new le wheel left for sale as i bought the other one, around £80 i think.

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530828
28/01/2008 12:48
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Quick question Baz, the spoke that didn't break, was that where the locking wheel bolt was by any chance?


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: stan] #530829
28/01/2008 13:18
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I don't think it was on that side,i'm pretty sure it was to the left(clockwise) of the unbroken spoke when I stopped. Do you have another theory concerning locking wheel bolts (mine are just the standard FIAT ones)?

Baz \:\)


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530831
28/01/2008 13:26
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Nah, not so much the locking wheel bolts but I do remember seeing something similar where the only bolt that was secure was the locking bolt and the others had worked loose causing the wheel to vibrate itself to destruction.


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: stan] #530833
28/01/2008 13:39
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Well all the wheelbolts felt fine,not too slack/tight when I was swapping the spare on. Hopefully i'll be able to spot something today.

Baz \:\)


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Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: Baz76] #530889
28/01/2008 14:56
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Hmm, wonder how many Coupe owners will be closely inspecting their wheels today! Had a persistent vibration between 65-75mph from the front of mine ever since I've had it (despite getting the wheels balanced twice) which has now made me a little concerned.

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28/01/2008 16:36
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That's shocking, I'm amazed that the remaining spoke was able to withstand the extra stress after the other 3 had broke \:o

Re: It started with a squeak :shocked: [Re: ] #530970
28/01/2008 16:45
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Just noticed this!! \:o

I was reading through that expecting that the wheel was gonna come off. I would be replacing the hub and bearing aswell barry, because you dont know what kinda stresses that put on the hub/bearing.

Ross

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28/01/2008 16:53
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Baz,what an escape!If your interested,my claws are off the car for sale,Im only up the road in Prestwick!cheers Paul. \:\)

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28/01/2008 19:10
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 Originally Posted By: h2ypr
Just noticed this!! \:o

I was reading through that expecting that the wheel was gonna come off. I would be replacing the hub and bearing aswell barry, because you dont know what kinda stresses that put on the hub/bearing.

Ross


Wheel bearing feels ok and I hadn`t drove that far with the vibration so I reckon it`ll be fine,I`ll be MOT`ing my next month anyway so i`ll give it a good going over \:\) .

Thanks for the offer of the wheels Mr.S but I`d prefer to have a set of original(Plus,LE or standard) Coop wheels ,I`m waiting on Carlt getting back to me for them though.

Baz \:\)


I`ve got some photos of the back of the wheel,it looks like they`ve been cracked for a wee while as there is trails of alloy deposits coming from the cracks where the water must have got in at. I`ll post the pics up when I get home.


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