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re-locating battery to the boot... #678218
12/09/2008 10:23
12/09/2008 10:23

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has anyone done this? I fancy having a go at it - any advice or tips? \:\)

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: ] #678227
12/09/2008 10:36
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I'm tempted too \:\)

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: ] #678240
12/09/2008 11:02
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Yes I did.
First thing I noticed was lighter steering! A little surprising. Then of course better turn-in and less understeer too. \:\)

I did make a guide here for it 2004, but I think it's gone now..?
However there are some pics on this page:

http://sfk.ibk.se/forum/showthread.php?threadid=5311
(it's in swedish but you can follow the pics a bit..)

Some niggles I've fixed:
You have to use a gelbattery, otherwise the usual vented acid can drop on the ground (via the vent.hose thru the floor) and cause bad damage to the cars paint, via the turbulance behind.

Also, use a sligtly larger cable than I did. I used around 10mm cable which gives too much resistance over the extra length.

Finally; you're better to use the existing hole behind the left front wing instead of drilling a new one like I did. \:\)

Good luck, it's well worth it in my eyes!

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: ] #678241
12/09/2008 11:07
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The reason I haven't done this is that the car is already unbalanced to the drivers side and taking weight from the passenger side will make it even more unbalanced It isn't like LHD in Europe where the drivers weight is counteracting the imbalance - in the UK we sit on the side which is already heavier

If you want to do something then IMHO move the battery further back, move it lower down or even fit a lighter battery, but I strongly believe the net effect on handling of putting it in the boot will be negative.


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Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: ] #678245
12/09/2008 11:10
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Yep.

You will need about 5 metres of battery cable. You will need to run it from the front to the back (under car or through the magic grommet) and you will need a little bit to create an earth in the boot.

Si, if you go to http://www.cpcbatteries.co.uk/ speak to Henley and say i sent you, he should / may give you discount (old friend of my dad's)


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: JohnS] #678246
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You can always put it on the rear-left side/ inside rear wing on UK cars then. I know someone had a tilted gelbattery in this position.. (Begbie?)

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: Per] #678263
12/09/2008 11:42
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but then you are heavy on the offside of the front 'axle' and nearside of the rear

This is mainly a 20V/20VT problem I believe as the engine is less central than the 16VT

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: JohnS] #678286
12/09/2008 12:38
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Try it John you'll like it! \:\)

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: Per] #678293
12/09/2008 12:51
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Per, how long have you had the gel battery in place? Which one did you buy, and have you had any problems starting in winter? Cheers! \:\)

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: Gunzi] #678315
12/09/2008 13:34
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I've just started having 2 x 18Ah batteries, one was not enough.. I hope this will do for most situations.
Then again, a thicker plus-cable than mine maybe would have solved this problem.

I bought mine from Biltema: http://www.biltema.se/products/product.asp?iItemId=105080
699kr, around 75euro.

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: Per] #678351
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 Originally Posted By: Per
Try it John you'll like it! \:\)


If my car was LHD I would, but as it isn't I won't \:D


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Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: JohnS] #678994
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Per, do you think the need for the the extra battery is due to the length of the cabling? So if you'd either kept the battery in the front or as you suggested fitted thicker cabling it would be ok to run with just one gel battery? Cheers \:\)

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: Gunzi] #679028
14/09/2008 13:01
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I suppose so yes.. At least if you're not standing around pumpin with your stereo!

And the std battery worked well at the rear, it was just that eventual problem with my destroyed paint..

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: JohnS] #679225
14/09/2008 19:54
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 Originally Posted By: JohnS
 Originally Posted By: Per
Try it John you'll like it! \:\)


If my car was LHD I would, but as it isn't I won't \:D


Turn the engine round? \:D

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: ] #689389
05/10/2008 15:48
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The weight of the cabling alone should put you off this idea!

Get a 7kg dekka battery or suchlike + mount it as low as possible in a similar position to the factory one

Re: re-locating battery to the boot... [Re: ] #689401
05/10/2008 16:44
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5kg odussey battery 145e. small, and can be placed at any position.
and make a new place to it !
weight saving : 14kg at least, if you make that new place from aluminium and carbon, or fiberglass.


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