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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1173921
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"startrek_bosch_M2_10_4.exe 8" assuming you're already in the correct directory:



1.PLUG IN
Plug in the USB cable first. You will then be asked to install choose to search the cd-rom drive. If it finds them (great) then move to step 2 ok.
it didn't find them try telling windows that the drivers are in the DRIVERS\DRIVE\WHQL Certified driver directory. It should install find and you can move on on to step 2.
2.FIND THE COM PORT
Now go into control panel>system>hardware>devices and look for the serial port option. You should see something along the lines of COM3. Note the number down. Move to Step 3 COM5
3.COPY THE SOFTWARE TO YOUR COMPUTER
copy the software to your C Drive I suggest creating a C:\ST directory. Now copy the startrek software to it. I would also rename the .exe file to something simple like STARTREK.EXE as it makes things simpler later on...
4. PLUG AND SORT OF PLAY
Plug the black connector into the blue USB connector (you probably did that already). Connect the positive connector to the positive connector on the battery terminal. Plug the fiat connector into the fiat connector on the coupe (looking at the car from the front its on the left near the power steering reservoir).

(optional bit) Now if you really want you can attach the negative ground terminal to a bit of metal on the bodywork or else connect it to the negative terminal on the battery. YOU DONT HAVE TO CONNECT THE GROUND IF YOU DONT WANT TO. Attach the red connector to the positive terminal of the battery.
5. FIRE UP THE SOFTWARE
Before you do start the software, TURN ON THE INGITION (the engines does not need to be started but if it is, it needs to be idling <2000rpm for the software to work).
Now use the command line (dos / terminal or whatever you want to call it and type…} to start the software C:\ST\STARTTREK.EXE {and include the com port number here i.e 3} press enter and it should connect.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1173923
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got it sorted.thanks


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1173926
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Before startrek you need to write where the programme is, for instance I have mine on the desktop ( now I got a laptop again!)
If you sure its com8, dont write com just leave one space after 4 and write 8
...M2_10_4 8

Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1173976
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No: 'startrek_bosch_M2_10_4 8' (without the quotes, but with the underscores and spaces.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1173995
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Got it.Thanks guys.Very nice software barnacle. Just need to know what it all means now.Its on a poorly coupe with a few faults,so posted in technical issues.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1261625
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Does anyone know if you can use startrek on windows 95 or 98? I have some 100year old laptops knocking about and it beats spending money on a new laptop just to get it dirty in my engine bay.

Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1261628
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I dont see why it wouldnt try it laugh


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1261662
19/09/2011 14:47
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Well it involves buying the cables and if it's incompatible there's no point shelling out £20 for some cables which I can't use. So if anyone knows for sure I'd be grateful if they can let me know.

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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1261795
19/09/2011 20:49
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Startrek was *written* on windows 2000. It should work on W98, not sure about the USB drivers for W95. It's a 32-bit application, so it won't run on 3.1...

If it's an older laptop you wouldn't want to be running fifty-three other apps on the machine at the same time, just to keep the timing as good as possible.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1261805
19/09/2011 21:11
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Actually, thinking about it... there are some calls from a later (2003) library which might call issues on the 16v graphical startrek, though I *think* they're statically linked so they might not be an issue. It's to do with the way the available serial ports are located to fill a drop-down box.

The text versions shouldn't have that issue since you select the serial port manually.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1264216
27/09/2011 12:47
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In the end I just installed XP as I am familiar with it if I need to troubleshoot.

What is the time interval between data updates on star trek and is there a way to dump the readings to a text file for logging and plotting later? Perhaps a handy little line of code I can insert somewhere in the .exe? I've done a bit of programming with matlab but I'm not really familiar with programming in dos.

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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1264371
27/09/2011 20:01
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The interval is about a second; it runs pretty much as fast as it can (I can't recall how I did it!)

To log it isn't quite as easy as it sounds, but you could open a log file at initialisation, and then simply copy/write everything that goes to the write-in-colour routine - it's always in the same order, and that way you'd get the errors decoded too. But you won't want the spinner...


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: ] #1379807
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Hi All,

My Coupe failed it's MOT on emissions. The garage said that the lambda sensor was reading erratically, and may need replacing.

Unfortunately, I don't have the details to hand of exactly what the emissions error was, but I thought I'd try and run the Startrek software to see if there were any clues, to check the diagnosis.

I'm sure I'd used it before on this car, but it doesn't seem to be connecting properly to the ECU.

As far as I can see in device manager, the serial port/USB interface is running on COM3, but when I connect it up, I can only connect to COM4 and COM8. When connected on either of these, it says the ECU ID is: 5C-5C-2E-5C-63-6F, but there seems to be no useful data visible.

Please could somebody confirm:

Where exactly is the diagnostic plug? I tried the one down the front left, but I wondering if it's not the right plug.

What other reason might there be, for it not connecting on COM3, as I'd expect?

Thanks in advance for any clues,

Ian.

Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1379823
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The plug you need is usually mounted on the washer water bottle; occasionally on the top of the driver's side suspension tower.

Make sure you have the right version and that you're running it from a console - also ensure that you have completed the installation for the FTDI chip in the cables; it does the 'installing drivers' thing twice.

That message you're seeing isn't right: it says, in text '\\.\co' which is part of the text that sets the address, so it's not actually connecting and overwriting that with the proper data. Don't forget you have to add the number '3' after the executable file name!


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1382354
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Couldn't get it to work for some reason this time on port 3, but a new Lambda sensor seems to have done the trick with the emissions, so maybe I'll try some other time smile

I've probably knackered the drivers at some point with some other stuff installed on this PC.

Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: ] #1448974
18/09/2013 18:18
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I've been reading some posts about this startrek.
Is this used for reading errors on a car?

What do I need for this startrek? What sort of cable?
Does it work on 20V VIS?

Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1448984
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It reads and clears errors as well as showing running values - but sadly not on the 20 vis.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1459211
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I was trying to connect to the 20V NA ECU today - it does get connected and shows some data (water and air temperature) but not all of them. Throttle position for example is at 10% no matter what the actual position is.
Any known issues with Windows 7 or is this caused by something else?

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Originally Posted By: RaumKlang
I was trying to connect to the 20V NA ECU today - it does get connected and shows some data (water and air temperature) but not all of them. Throttle position for example is at 10% no matter what the actual position is.
Any known issues with Windows 7 or is this caused by something else?


Something else.
It seems that you are not connected to the ECU. Make sure you know which port the USB cable is using. Go to device manager and check which port is being used. Then add a space then the port number after the "exe" and it should connect and give you live data readings.

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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1459228
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It does connect - at the same port that MultiECUscan does, but MES quits with a note that paid version is needed for that operation.
I do get some data as air and water temp but not all of them.

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Originally Posted By: RaumKlang
It does connect - at the same port that MultiECUscan does, but MES quits with a note that paid version is needed for that operation.
I do get some data as air and water temp but not all of them.



So are they live readings? Are they changing or static readings.
If they are static then the PC has not connected.
So you checked the serial port number in windows device manager?
So what port number is it? Try with a different port number after the exe command to see if yo get same result.

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There is only one serial port on this machine - COM1 which is the interface. Meanwhile I purchased a license for Multiecuscan and it does connect via this port and gives me live data. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is the injector test - but that has nothing to do with Star Trek.

Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1459238
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Throttle position does not seem to be available unless the engine is running but you should have other readings.

What's the long number at the bottom left of the screen after you connect? xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx?


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1459306
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I was reading trough this thread last night and just before I went to bed and I ended up ordering the cables and got the program downloaded..

I was in a wee dilema between the Widged and the Program but obviously there are more benefits from option 2 (especially the price difference)... smile

Thank you branacle for this!

Will let y`all know how I get on with it. I`m 99.5% sure that something will come up in RED... laugh

I`ll post the result...


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1463096
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Okay people.. Finally received the second cable and I did the THING! smile

As promised here are the results :

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If it makes any difference - the car has not been started for about 2 weeks.

So how bad is it? laugh


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1463140
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It's not connected. Are you in the right connector? Should be in the one on the water reservoir.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1463144
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
It's not connected. Are you in the right connector? Should be in the one on the water reservoir.

Yes that`s the one I plugged it in to...?


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This one:

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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: barnacle] #1463154
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That's the one. Did you select the proper port after you plugged in the adaptor? Windows usually (but not always) allocates it to port 4.


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Re: Announcing: Star Trek for 20v/vt [Re: mattB] #1463167
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Yes I did. In my case it was port 10.

So I typed in "C:\ST\STARTREK.EXE 10

Basically this is what I did:

Originally Posted By: mattB
1.PLUG IN
Plug in the USB cable first. You will then be asked to install choose to search the cd-rom drive. If it finds them (great) then move to step 2 ok.
it didn't find them try telling windows that the drivers are in the DRIVERS\DRIVE\WHQL Certified driver directory. It should install find and you can move on on to step 2.
2.FIND THE COM PORT
Now go into control panel>system>hardware>devices and look for the serial port option. You should see something along the lines of COM3. Note the number down. Move to Step 3 COM5
3.COPY THE SOFTWARE TO YOUR COMPUTER
copy the software to your C Drive I suggest creating a C:\ST directory. Now copy the startrek software to it. I would also rename the .exe file to something simple like STARTREK.EXE as it makes things simpler later on...
4. PLUG AND SORT OF PLAY
Plug the black connector into the blue USB connector (you probably did that already). Connect the positive connector to the positive connector on the battery terminal. Plug the fiat connector into the fiat connector on the coupe (looking at the car from the front its on the left near the power steering reservoir).

(optional bit) Now if you really want you can attach the negative ground terminal to a bit of metal on the bodywork or else connect it to the negative terminal on the battery. YOU DONT HAVE TO CONNECT THE GROUND IF YOU DONT WANT TO. Attach the red connector to the positive terminal of the battery.
5. FIRE UP THE SOFTWARE
Before you do start the software, TURN ON THE INGITION (the engines does not need to be started but if it is, it needs to be idling <2000rpm for the software to work).
Now use the command line (dos / terminal or whatever you want to call it and type…} to start the software C:\ST\STARTTREK.EXE {and include the com port number here i.e 3} press enter and it should connect.

This is strange... confused


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