Comments (if any) here please

why would you?

Oh good god man, what are you like?!

Stunning car. If you're after a power monster, can't you just fiddle with the Plus?

Can't do it to a Plus Insy. I need a new project now - I'm bored

hummmm.......... 4x4 16v coupe

I have idea's already. My problem is I spend too much time at FCSS and see all the things that you can do to these cars ..... it gives me ideas

Fair enough. So whats the plan, get a 'bog' standard 20VT and modify that?

Sorry, I'm throwing the thread off on a tangent. Could you not put the Plus wheels you have for sale back on the Plus? Just thinking that might make it a bit more appealing to purists?

I thought I had problems! I think he is after mad mad power now!

Phill you are a sick man!

I think there must be something in the water.

I have an idea for two projects that you won't get bored of or complete in a hurry:

1) Lengthen the wheelbase, widen the car (cut down the middle) fit the engine to the rear and voila
you'll have the car Fiat should have made

2) Cut of the roof and have the first convertable?

someone has done the convertable already

I think I'd like something that has around 350-400 bhp to start and goes around corners like it's on rails.

PS - Joe at FCSS is going to [censored] kill me! He's spent so much time on this car - whoops! Sorry Joe

Phil,

Why do you not just tune this one?

Your going to loose more money than you make selling this, then doing all this work probably again to another coupe and then tuning it.

Chuck another 1.5k at yours with a few good finds you could be well on your way to silly power.....

I just think your going to be spending less money this way with a car you like and have done the paint work on

Sam - She needs to go, I just can't do it to her. Anyway, I love new projects as I am treating all this as a learning experience. Take my Steely that I did, she was great, then I enjoyed the Plus more, now it's time to use these experiences with a new project that'll keep me amused ....

I do think you need to put the plus wheels back on.

I know you like the dark 20vt wheels but if your selling it as a genuine plus it should have all its standard bits, and to some the wheels are one of the most important things..

but good luck with the sale, if I had the money i'd buy it..

I'm with Trix on the wheels thang.

me too, unsurprisingly...

is it going to be a couoe project for sure then Phil?

Patch that looks stunning
Each to their own but I'd be locking the keys away to that for life.......
What a car for the money - best of luck

Definitely a coop project Steve



Lol - Cheers Nello

Patch how about you take every forum member's car off their hands and give it the full Patch treatment? That should keep you busy for...the next 6 months?

Or how about you just make a Fiat Coupe from scratch? That would keep you busy for 7 months.

No but seriously WHY are you selling your perfect Plus?!?!?

JKD - If you don't understand now - you never will.

However, I like the idea about doing every members car - that would keep me happy! For a while!

Good luck with the sale phil,bargin at the work that has been domes and sure it would be snapped up.shame I don't have some cash to throw your way.

I'll send you my Coop recorded delivery then.

Phil,good luck with the sale and the new project mate.
I am still looking for another also.What i will do with it i dont know yet.

Cheers Joe, me and you both mate

Cheap 20vt in coupes for sale 700 quid with history.Sounds like a cheap base car

Going to sell mine first Rueb

If I was selling mine (and I am ) I would offer the plus alloys.

I'm sure I will sort something out if the buyer insists

Hmmm

"Possession of an illegally spaced vehicle registration mark with intent to supply".......

Several options:

a). Pay me the fine, that'll be £4300 please

b). Give me the car and I'll turn a blind eye

See, who says the law can't be fair?

The letters slipped over like that when I was washing it gov ... honest

You can have the car Stan, no problem, just hand over a wad of lolly and it's yours.

why would you sell a plus without the plus wheels? added money?

Perhaps someone might like the stealth look mate - just imagine that, as if ah!!! woop woop

lmfao, you are the forum nutter Phil, that has to be official

Somebody really did try using that excuse once, didn't work that time either!



Mrs Stan just ate the last lolly

Didn't you sell them Phil? (the wheels)

I have a freshly powder coated set at my disposal, and a set of black 17" spoked, and a set of 20VT normal at the moment.

Thats what ı thought

You guy's need to look at the coop parts thread

Im not aloud to, or the coupés for sale section

Blummin heck Patch! You've got itchier feet than Sam when it comes to Coupe's!!

I saw this car in the flesh last week and it looks awesome! Yea, there's a few small bits of paintwork that could do with being fixed, but other than that this car is a beauty! The engine bay is

You nutter Phil

Personally, I'd sort the paintwork issues and play with this one: suspension, tyres, a track day or two. Spa. There's still plenty you can do.

You might not like a silly power coupe. In my personal opinion, a mapped 300bhp hybrid coupe with FMIC is the right amount of power. Beyond that it gets a lot more pricey and risky.

Serious power modding can be very expensive and very frustrating: just be 100% sure you want to go this route before you let this great car go mate.

Ive seen this car and its everything he says it is.

Good luck with the sale mate.

Cheers Rob - hope you're well mate

Phil what are you like

I go away for one weekend and come back to find you planning and scheming

Who ever buys this will be one lucky person as it's a really well sorted coupé that's had quiet a large sum spent on it recently, and that's not to mention mapping, charge cooler ect.

Looking forward to listening to what you've got planned

I know Joe, I know ..... and you know what I'm like too



Cheers Yella, This is now a sorted Plus. I have achieved my goals and enjoyed doing it. I think this one needs to be kept as she is - yes, that includes the wheels I hear what you are saying mate, I really do, Joe said exactly the same thing to me

It's like trying to talk to a teenager mate, they hear what you say and then immediately and promptly go and do the opposite

Agree with the comments about the wheels. Do what I did with my Plus, get some Plus alloys and spray them anthracite. Would look fantastic on yours.

I now have decided on the next project ..... It will look exactly the same as this ... (the coupe gents, the coupe)



I mean EXACTLY the same using the Italian designed bumper, the same wheels (though I need to find out what they are called and a source) and will run a safe 350bhp.

Come on, someone buy my car, please, she's a cracker!!!

Patch, they are Fiat Stilo alloys.

Fiat Stilo alloys it is then

Is it me or do that alloys on the coop look all right, I know, I know what they are but they dont look half bad at all....

Well I'm not going disagree with that Jim You are obviously a man of taste and culture

Patch when do you reckon your next Coupe project will be completed by, assuming you find a suitable silver Coupe in a month or so?

Well mate, I won't be hanging around (as you eloquently outline above) ..... once a suitable car has been found, it will be full steam ahead me boy

Moon Grey by the looks of it then ?

It's a steely Duncan, but it would look nice as a mooney.

really?! to me it looked too light to be a steely

think I need to get some glasses

Get some vari-focals from spec-savers, they're on offer you know

Patch, how about you get a Vinci Grey and mod that?

Best colour Coupe + best bumper/skirts/wheels combination + the Patch234 treatment = best looking Coupe EVER in the universe!

Because you've never done the Patch treatment on an LE have you?

why should he move down-market?

I'll be detailing a Vinci LE next weekend. I'll picture post the results (Before and after)

Nice idea JKD, but the purchase price on a vinci will eat into the budget.

Hi Mate,

WANT THIS CAR!

Had previous coupe turbo's (2x20v's and 1x16v) but been out of coupe ownership for 4 years and miss every day.

In negotiations with the missus about buying your car so fingers crossed she's gives in

Hopefuly speak to you soon!!!!

Wish I had 4k spare lol

Extend the project timeline then You might keep the next car longer than 3 weeks then

hey Patch....any luck with the sale so far?

Not a sniff mate. It might help things somewhat if someone actually came to look at it

At least yours is available to view.....mines still in the garage

Yes, it seems that the market for well sorted, tastefully and sympathetically modified cars that require no work, are powerful, stealthy looking, sorted, looked after, reliable and well priced (considering a normal PLUS will fetch £3-£3.5K) has dissipated into fresh air

Well i know if i had the cash,the two coupes id be looking at are both of yours who both havent been shy about spending on whatever the car has needed.
4k for a well modified coupe but a plus model.bargin

I might even resort to sticking a for sale sign in the window of mine.

You can do the same patch and we'll swap cars for a few days to spread the word a bit further

What issue of Autocar was this car in?

Was it for one of their RWYB type events?

I like originality, but the plus wheels do nothing for me. The Coupe is one of those designs that works as it was made and IMO the plus wheels are too fussy.

Patch's car has standard 20VT wheels which are mint and have a wicked sparkle effect that when seen in the flesh make them really pop...........couldnt stop staring at them at brooklands..........unless he isnt selling these with the car and is putting his plus wheels back on?

I have seen this in the last few days and can say it is a beautiful example and I am sure that the first prospective purchaser to see it will buy.

Cheers Jase, will begin the detail on your car next week. I am hoping that by Thursday I will be done - stuff's cropped up for me to do for my real job early next week mate

Will pm you when done.

Put on the W plate and the Plus alloys and it will sell

I am going to put my private plate on retention and I am thinking of breaking my one or else keeping it off the road for a year. The market for decent 20vt's seems to have evaporated.

sugerbear,yours is another i would of snapped off you if i had some pennies

well I have been offered something but no where near what I would be prepared to part with it for.

same here

Cant believe this car hasnt been snapped up yet........inky plus......i dont think i've seen one for sale for a long time...especially not in this condition

Tell me about it!

Don't worry someone genuine WILL be coming along soon. A certain 16vt's just appeared on Pistonheads to fund it

Madness! But at least you'll have a proper engine

Oh god how I wish I had 3.5k ish spare! I soooooooooooooo miss both of my old coupes!

Phil - looking at your sig pic I think that the earlier looking 'P' plate that's on it now won't be helping you at all.
I'd change that back before sale: trying to sort this after sale takes ages/ causes complications with sorting the V5 etc etc.

All the best anyway

'The market for decent 20vt's seems to have evaporated.'

It's the economic times in which we live rather than anything specific to just Fiat Coupes?

Cheers Yella - The plate is included in the sale. If the new owner wants to put it back to a W then fair do's

Phil, That's just a silly price mate, I know you want to get on with another project but the car originally must of cost at least 3.5k

You have spent surly 2k + on this?

Cant you just take up heroin, Im sure it will be cheaper in the long run!

I just looked in the mirror and i saw GUM on my head in the reflection

I could make more breaking her mate, but this one isn't going end up that way. The new owner will need to give me guarantee's about that.

Selling at a loss, sure, but that's part and parcel of car selling these days.

Coop fever rules

i want soooo bad.Good luck with the sale.I reckon gone by the end of the week phil

Gone already mate - Deposit taken

Good good, look forward to the next project.Found a car yet?

Yep - will discuss this once the sale is complete reubs. Don't want to jinx it.

ha im sure it will be fine,a happy new owner for sure mate.Will we be seeing you at spa?

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