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Refurbing 20vt Centre Console #1077001
27/07/2010 18:56
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My centre console is a little worse for wear so fancy refurbing/painting it to improve it slightly.

What's the best way to rub it down/prep it to remove or cover deep scratches before paint?

Also I've covered it in silicone previously so that'll all need to come off.

Help appreciated.

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1077248
28/07/2010 00:22
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No one done this ever?

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1077293
28/07/2010 02:17
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Take it out and try to get rid of the silicone and degrease it, etc.

The main problem is trying to get rid of the rubbery protective gunk that's on it.

From what I remember, I started with 240 grit paper, then worked up to 1200/1500 wet and dry.

The 240 should get rid of the deep scratches, but if it doesn't, then drop grades until it does and when it does, then go back up the grades to get it smooth again.

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: Theresa] #1077305
28/07/2010 03:04
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There is a "how to" guide for both 20v and 16v consoles on here.

I have recently done mine by following the instructions and metho is the easiest to remove the rubber coating.

I even removed the sides off my console by drilling out a few pop riverts and taking off the circular spring clips on the underside. These are easily replaced with a short length of copper pipe, or a long socket, as a press.

On the 16v console the wiring harness can be disconnected under the dash at a large plug so that it comes out and goes back in with all swithes etc in the console.

I used a quality bumper, trim and roof paint to paint it and I'm very happy with the result.


Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: Possum] #1077308
28/07/2010 03:10
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There's another recent thread on this, partly. I just did mine (and the ashtray + surround) and what you need is methanol, steelwool and PATIENCE! And in the end, a good paint shop..

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1077309
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Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: Possum] #1077823
28/07/2010 23:21
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"Cleaning the finish off is easy , just use a light methylated spirit (I used what I had around , which was methanol) soaked in a rag and wipe it on."

..what a piece of bullcrap! laugh

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1077863
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It´s so because been sun light exposed for years, the "dark" parts of the console are much difficult to clean even with paint thinner, BUT no impossible smile
Then sanding, up to 800 is enough I think. Be carefull not to sand down the relief, pay special attention around the heater & clock round holes, and the corners. There is a Motip brand paint for plastics, whiche gives me excellent results, even for exterior parts, mat black. Spray slighty wet layers, not moisty, 5 to 8, leave few mins to dry between each. Using hair driers and fans to accelerate the process is not adviceable, simply slightly hot room is better. Distance 40-50cm. If using the mat paint, there is powder residue over the surface, Moire like, when everything finished and COMPLETELY dry, can clean it with soft sponge under running water, when dries again you´ll see it in its full glory, much better than new.

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1078147
29/07/2010 19:34
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Originally Posted By: Per
There's another recent thread on this, partly. I just did mine (and the ashtray + surround) and what you need is methanol, steelwool and PATIENCE! And in the end, a good paint shop..


here's my account


F****** b****** thing...
Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: Trappy] #1078492
30/07/2010 12:54
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I had a bit of a play with some meths and it went pretty well. My main problem so far is I can;t get the fan speed control knob off to access the screws holding the thing in place.

Do i just jank it, or is it possible that it is being held in place some other way...?

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1078493
30/07/2010 12:55
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It's a very tight fit: use pliers/mole grips with some apdding to protect the surface of the knob


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Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: DaveG] #1078494
30/07/2010 12:57
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Thanks, I thought I was doing something wrong as it was so tight, molegrips and protective padding it is then!

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1078517
30/07/2010 13:47
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I used pliers and man strength lol!

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1078521
30/07/2010 13:51
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pliers + fan speed knob = lady like strength. laugh

Be a man and use your hands like the rest of us tongue

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1078562
30/07/2010 15:17
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I swear it was glued on officer!

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1078596
30/07/2010 16:24
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Plier removal is something I can only dream of mine pops off under hard acceleration frown

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1112131
06/10/2010 19:08
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Originally Posted By: Per
"Cleaning the finish off is easy , just use a light methylated spirit (I used what I had around , which was methanol) soaked in a rag and wipe it on."

..what a piece of bullcrap! laugh


However steel wool and meths works brilliantly, I spent an hour prepping mine this way today and it took the rubber coating off in a very straightforward manner (Contrary to the cloth and meth's which did exactly nothing)

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Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1112264
06/10/2010 22:05
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Exactly, steel wool and methanol is the thing.

Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: ] #1112584
07/10/2010 12:25
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Handy if like me you have water injection and already have 25 litres of methanol in the garage, but if not...where to get small quantities of methanol, unless you means "meths" or methylated spirits = ethanol + 10% methanol + purple dye


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Re: Refurbing 20vt Centre Console [Re: DaveG] #1112727
07/10/2010 17:30
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About painting the center console there is other idea Hydrographic printing
for example http://www.forum.fiatcoupe.pl/files/img_3138_1m_132.jpg


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