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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: Rob40] #1175117
22/02/2011 18:19
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dave just texted me some info about it shocked

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175120
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Spill the beans then? The seller called me earlier offering it shocked

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175132
22/02/2011 18:41
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I bet he did, but it's not up to me to say.

I'm sure Rob will be on shortly.


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175137
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I look forward to hearing what he has to say. Seller didn't go into any detail why ktm backed out. Sounds like a bad 'un...

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175141
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You may have noticed a 'slightly' more honest description on his ad this time!


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: Rob40] #1175142
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Originally Posted By: Rob40
You may have noticed a 'slightly' more honest description on his ad this time!


Certainly did, although I suspect more than a few more issues he's not admitting to. Must be quite a few tbh!!

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175143
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My arm ain't long enough!!


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175144
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laugh

The niggle list will be interesting reading!

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: Hovedan] #1175145
22/02/2011 19:00
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Advise peeps interested to speak with rob before bidding shocked

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: Rob40] #1175358
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hi mate im interested in this coupe can you tell me whats up with it?

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175405
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so what was wrong with it?

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175415
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buy cheap, pay twice.

or in this case 5 times ?!

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175432
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i just phoned the guy and he's really p#ssed off! all he said is there no buy it now price, its in auction till sunday, if you win it then call me, then slammed the phone down!

c#ck!

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175507
23/02/2011 11:27
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wonder how many people are calling him from here laugh


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: MarioCirillo] #1175532
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Originally Posted By: MarioCirillo
wonder how many people are calling him from here laugh


yeah i wondered that - the wheels alone are worth £400 easy in decent nick crazy

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175542
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so offer him £50 then laugh


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175550
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If it's been turned down at £750 then it must be a right shed


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175557
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I am amazed at this thread, unless the seller was a complete tool what do people expect for £800 ? A perfect plus ?


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: sugerbear] #1175578
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Originally Posted By: sugerbear
I am amazed at this thread, unless the seller was a complete tool what do people expect for £800 ? A perfect plus ?


Have to agree with this ^ It's what, £2.5k below your average Plus value? Car traders aren't normally that stupid, and I imagine he'll get more than £750 via the auction now.

By the way, is anyone going to actually state whats wrong with it? Didn't CarlT have an idea about a lot of Coupes in the UK? Wonder if he knows anything about it?

EDIT: Just checked the link again, it's now £975.65 with 4 days to run.

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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: sugerbear] #1175598
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Originally Posted By: sugerbear
I am amazed at this thread, unless the seller was a complete tool what do people expect for £800 ? A perfect plus ?


Given the amount of "oh my god, I can't believe I missed out on a bargain" comments ... yeah I think they do.

rolleyes

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175625
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Originally Posted By: duncan78
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I am amazed at this thread, unless the seller was a complete tool what do people expect for £800 ? A perfect plus ?


Given the amount of "oh my god, I can't believe I missed out on a bargain" comments ... yeah I think they do.

rolleyes


Of COURSE Duncan, I want a bargain. Seller isn't prepared to sell it for £750 now as he's going to let the auction run.

+1 to the wanting to know what's wrong with the car clan.

Wheels and recaros would fetch most of the £750. Rear brakes corroded, well, what do they do anyway?! Oil pressure through the floor? Or was it just a stonechip too many laugh

Beans...


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175705
23/02/2011 15:31
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did anyone see the original add? look carefully at those pics and tell me if you see a smart car..look at the discs still steel not choroded rust..is that what i found when i arrived do you think?

anyway..i had spoke to the guy told him i was a trader also and whats the score with the car ..he told me a little scrape on the side..i asked if it would make a good one and he told me easily thats why he hasn't sent it off to the auction..also that it was a great motor and driver

when i got there i found the whole side badly rippled and i mean badly including swage line which as you know are a horror to sort when creased up,both arches rotten with metal flaked away so inside lips nearly gone..(i had asked if it had any rust and been told there was none) i am already aware of scottish roads and salt/damp issues from my van buying from there and they rot much more than further south..
i didn't need to look too hard underneath..
the brakes i had been warned had issues(on the day) but worked ,were badly rusted and choroded so it had been stood a fair while, tyres were good but cheap, every wheel needed refurb.. light cups some choroded, rear bumper crack in corner again needing replacing or full sorting and painting as did whole side..
interior.. fronts very worn worst i have seen probably 3 bolsters needed replacing..
but the real clincher was the motor..it was sick very cammy sounded like the old datsuns 240s etc when they got worn out ..and then i was litteraly speechless when i went for the bonnet pull cable and it had been removed! which is the oldest trick in the book when you dont want someone under the bonnet..tried to tell me it had snapped on him that morning! but there was no ends or sign of it at all

it was a complete shed.. to me beyond doing anything with..
as a trader i expect the worst i have heard it all and seen it all before so was prepared to take it as a breaker even.. but it wasn't worth taking for that!

it would have cost me £150 to get there and get it home at least so it would owe me £900.. to get my money back and make it worth the time and effort was not possible


how much would you spend refurbing to get £300 back on wheels?
how much are 3 bolsters fitted ? all the running round stripping out delivering to specialists ..time and money involved in it all ..unless you have done it you have no idea what breaking one and selling the bits entails


sure there were a few panels,lights etc but they are all 10 a penny now on ebay and the forum the only bits of worth were the plus bits which were all shit..the engine was not saleable,turbo smoked,couldn't see what was wrong under bonnet so i doubt there was saleable goods there.. it has to be in good condition for people to want it..

there were other issues as well but the main thing was it would never have got me 200+ miles home..i said to the guy "would you drive that over 200 miles?"
his answer was "the owner was driving it"
i asked again and he once again diverted from answering

the reason he has listed more of its faults was because i was bloody angry and told him if someone else came they could likely be more upset than me so he should relist and be honest about the state of the car

anyone buying take a trailer..you'll be lucky to get home..take some tools lift the bonnet and see if it has oil in it as it doesn't sound like theres much in there! and fix the skirts to the car as they are flapping and you will lose them

rest assured dan you had a lucky escape and i copped unlucky!
couldn't have happened to a nicer guy some of you may titter laugh

do not go thinking you will fix it up its a rotter..unless you want a full restoration leave it alone

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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175711
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oh and the guy was driving it because he was reasonably local and when it was absolutely last legs he traded it in..sensible guy i bet he wouldn't drive it 200 miles either!

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175723
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i have just relooked at the new add and that car still looks tidy ..you have to say its bloody photogenic..wish i turned out that well

you will not find the car in those pics

be warned

it happens all the time things can look great in photos but in the flesh are real mingers i would have been over the moon if it had looked half that good

no doubt someone will not believe me but don't say you were not warned

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175728
23/02/2011 16:16
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I can vouch for what Rob says, i was with him.

This car needs to be given away for anyone to make a half decent attempt at repairing, and with a decent budget in mind.

It's not worth scrapping.


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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175755
23/02/2011 17:12
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thats bad look ktm, never seen that colour before either.

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175808
23/02/2011 18:48
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hi tom ..it was asking a lot ..a good plus for 750 but i only cared about the chasis if that had been half decent the rest i could have sorted..same for bodywork i was happy to do a scrape or two, swap doors ,wings,bumper whatever but a rotten one.. no chance!

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175809
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Just goes to show, you can NEVER trust pics. ALWAYS see a car first before buying!



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Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175810
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Seen a really nice plus on autotrader think it's about £1200 but its a non turbo

Re: cheap plus on ebay ???? [Re: ] #1175814
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Originally Posted By: tomlough
Seen a really nice plus on autotrader think it's about £1200 but its a non turbo


A non-turbo plus?!? crazy

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