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Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12740 22/12/2005 20:55 22/12/2005 20:55
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	As most of you know i was involved in a bad accident and finally things have started moving. My solicetor has asked me to write to them with how much my car is worth so they can put a report together and send it to the garage that did the work on my car. Right heres the details: 1997 Sprint Blue 20v turbo 1114k Full leather interior Manifold replaced few months back New rad Full set of breaks replaced, New set of toyos only a thousand miles wear. LE Skirts, Chipped This car had been looked after and was a very good example of a coupe, as commented on numberous occasions. I dont know if I have left anything off, but it has full reciepts of all the work that the car has had and see pic below. http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/2376DSC00403.JPG I need the cost on how much it would be to replace the car. Thank you guys Last edited by sammiboo; 22/12/2005 20:56.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12741 22/12/2005 20:58 22/12/2005 20:58
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,459 Both feet in Meldrew Ave Cappo Forum is my life
Cappo Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,459 Both feet in Meldrew Ave	I don't want to be the first to comment on that mileage, so I won't Habeus Maximus V8 Nihilum

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12742 22/12/2005 21:03 22/12/2005 21:03
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917 J JimO Forum veteran
JimO Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917	With that sort of mileage you are going to looking at around £2500 - 3000. Maybe go for £3000 due to its history. You're best bet is to go through autotrader and exchange and mart - printing off as many like models you can find

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12743 22/12/2005 21:11 22/12/2005 21:11
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	i know the mileage is high... i bought it at 96k i am looking at top end price. It will be the garage that will be footing the bill (hopefully)

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12744 22/12/2005 21:14 22/12/2005 21:14
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	H said eventhough my car had the mileage piled on it felt more solid than his car which has about 78k on it

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12745 22/12/2005 21:20 22/12/2005 21:20
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917 J JimO Forum veteran
JimO Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917	yeah, but thats the sort of thing impossible to get across to an insurance company. The thing to do is to find similar cars of age, mileage, etc - then show examples of all your receipts for recent work and try to build up the price as far as possible. So if there in one for sale with no cambelt change, then yours is that value plus your receipt for cambelt. The insurance company will obvisouly try and beat you down as far as they can, so just try to feed them as much info on the price as you can.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12746 22/12/2005 21:27 22/12/2005 21:27
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,459 Both feet in Meldrew Ave Cappo Forum is my life
Cappo Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,459 Both feet in Meldrew Ave	Quote: i know the mileage is high... i bought it at 96k i am looking at top end price. It will be the garage that will be footing the bill (hopefully) Yes but at 1114k , Fiat would probably buy it back from you as a shining example of the marque, didn't some guy with an ordinary car recently hit a million miles and the manufacturer gave him a brand new car for it and put the old one in their museum? (Sorry Sammi, just teasing! I'm in holiday mode today!) I don't think you wil get too much added value for things like the new tyres as they're consumables and you'd have to buy them anyway, but I'd have thought you should be angling somewhere in the £5k region (that's £5k, not £555k ) Habeus Maximus V8 Nihilum

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12747 22/12/2005 21:33 22/12/2005 21:33
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	It just concerns me that the coupes at the lower end prices are going to be sheds, there are some people that buy the car and run it as cheap as possible.. I will be looking at the cars that have been looked after and has history. Hopefully i will be able to buy another one next year

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12748 22/12/2005 22:20 22/12/2005 22:20
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,462 Ipswich 06/08/2002 Ed My job on the forum
Ed My job on the forum Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,462 Ipswich 06/08/2002	Cars for sale in here is probably your best bet for a fair comparison. At the moment you've got Bezzer's coupé, he's the third forum owner so its been well looked after and it appears all the major work has been done recently. Has a few mods too, but by his own admonishment, the body isn't A1 That's up @ £4400 99 T 73k JayD's has leather and air and all the major stuff also seems to be done and he says the body is excellent. I reckon its underpriced at £4500 98 R 68k With your mileage I reckon you would be looking at 4K tops if your lucky Join the club @ www.fccuk.org

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12749 22/12/2005 22:29 22/12/2005 22:29
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I think what they are trying to get at Sammi is that 1114k miles is 1,114,000 miles. I would assume you meant 114k, but you know how pedantic this lot are.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12750 22/12/2005 22:50 22/12/2005 22:50
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	yes - sorry i meant 114k - the extra 1 was a typo I'll have a route about and find the paperwork of the work that has been done. Its a shame though cos I wouldnt have even thought about selling it for many years

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12751 22/12/2005 22:59 22/12/2005 22:59
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,895 2011 and 2015 FCCUK F1 Champ. B bezzer Forum is my life
bezzer Forum is my life B Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,895 2011 and 2015 FCCUK F1 Champ.	Sammi, I've just had a quick look on AT for 20VT's same age and mileage as yours and some are going for as little as £2.5K and as high as £4K Definately worth you spending some time on the net getting as many comparisons as you can. ......My Boy...... (PB #7)

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12752 23/12/2005 00:46 23/12/2005 00:46
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran
pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales	I think you are looking at about £3K, maybe £3.5K tops. Our coupe's were similar in cond and mileage and I doubt I'd get more than £3.5K for mine. High mileage coupe's just aren't worth as much, regardless of maint. Coopless!

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12753 23/12/2005 03:38 23/12/2005 03:38
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	cheers for your help guys

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12754 26/12/2005 19:49 26/12/2005 19:49
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: cheers for your help guys The fact your car has a new manifold or radiator etc is irrelevant to an insurance company. It has high miles and is old (97), id say you'd get book value of about 2.5K for it. Your best bet is to sue the garage if their negligence caused the accident, dont expect too much from an insurance company.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12755 31/12/2005 10:28 31/12/2005 10:28
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,200 england C came2dance I AM a Coop
came2dance I AM a Coop C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,200 england	Quote: As most of you know i was involved in a bad accident and finally things have started moving. My solicetor has asked me to write to them with how much my car is worth so they can put a report together and send it to the garage that did the work on my car. Even though all the above replies may be correct Sammi. The solicitor is asking YOU to write and tell them how much your car is worth. It's up to them to dispute it. Your car was luvverly. Tell them basic models are going for 4k or whatever but you had had skirts and colour coding and the manifold replaced at whatever expense to you etc and that in your opinion it's worth £xx.00 don't volunteer anything else and see what the response is www.chrisdoyle-photography.co.uk

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12756 01/01/2006 02:56 01/01/2006 02:56
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Did you tell your insurance company about the modifacations to your car(skirts and chip)when you did them? If you did not tell them about these, your insurance will not be valid as its now a modified car. If this is the case then you do not want to tell them about the extra you spent on these mods or you could be in the s**t.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12757 01/01/2006 05:20 01/01/2006 05:20
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Sammi just to give you an insite to what the insurance company will be seeing in terms of value in accordance to Glasses - I have access to the traders Glasses book. Only use these figures to give you an insight to what they will probably try to pay out - the following value is with the 114k miles - as mentioned before the add ons are not taken into account: 'Excellent Condition' (what the trader will try to pay you for it) - £2240 'Retail Value' Trader will try to sell at - £3920 with 3/6 months warrenty and finance etc. So there's the values - up to you how to play it but £3k to £3.5k would be reasonable. The following are what the values are based on: Quote: Excellent condition: Ready for retail sale; mechanically perfect, paintwork unblemished for a vehicle under two years old, but may have slight stone damage on a vehicle over two years old or with high mileage. Interior should be immaculate. A full service history must be provided. All equipment fitted should be fully operational. Tyres should be new or nearly new, wheels and trims clean and undamaged. If appropriate, the MOT Certificate must be for a minimum of nine months. Retail Value: The 'dealer asking price' or 'windscreen price'. It is not necessarily the price a consumer would actually pay, as it may be the subject of negotiation, discount or an extra allowance on the value of your own car. It will also vary depending on any special offers applicable at the time, condition, length of warranty and any options and extras that may be fitted. Last edited by Hanny; 01/01/2006 05:24.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12758 03/01/2006 01:52 03/01/2006 01:52
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone J Jimbo Je suis un Coupé
Jimbo Je suis un Coupé J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone	Here you go, taken from the post I put in Coupe Related stuff, Dec 05's Glass's Guide Just to keep you all up to date with how much the coop is depreciating, here's this months Glass's prices: 20v 97P 3100 R 3400 98R 3625 S 3900 99S 4075 T 4275 V 4500 00V 4750 W 5000 X 5275 01X 5500 Y 5725 20V TURBO 97P 3425 R 3775 98R 4025 S 4325 99S 4525 T 4750 V 5025 00V 5300 W 5600 X 5925 01X 6100 Y 6400 LIMITED EDITIONS +1075 PLUS 99T 4900 V 5200 00V 5475 W 5775 X 6125 01X 6375 Y 6675 Thats all the retail prices obviously trade will be lower and you can knock off about £200 if you have above average mileage. People will argue that the prices are a load of crap and they will sell for more than that but Glass's is the bible of car prices used by ALL car dealers so its very accurate.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12759 03/01/2006 02:27 03/01/2006 02:27
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Thanks again Just to point out..... the claim isnt going through the insurance. The only time the insurance have been involved is to confirm that the car was insured at the time of the accident. Yes this is what this is all about.... sueing the garage that misfitted the bearing. I am looking into the prices myself - i had to do this when i wrote off my bravo a few years ago. I want to come back with the best examples i can.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12760 03/01/2006 02:32 03/01/2006 02:32
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone J Jimbo Je suis un Coupé
Jimbo Je suis un Coupé J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone	I remember seeing pictures of the crash and the wheel bearing Sammi but what was the engineers report into why the bearing failed ?

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12761 03/01/2006 02:57 03/01/2006 02:57
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: I remember seeing pictures of the crash and the wheel bearing Sammi but what was the engineers report into why the bearing failed ? The report confirmed it was caused by the way the bearing was fitted. I have the report and asked the engineer to email me a copy so i could keep a copy on the PC and email out.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12762 03/01/2006 03:39 03/01/2006 03:39
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone J Jimbo Je suis un Coupé
Jimbo Je suis un Coupé J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,706 Gone	What did it say though, was over/under tightened ? I'm just curious as to how they can get such a simple job wrong.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be worth #12763 03/01/2006 20:07 03/01/2006 20:07
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	h said he woul;d reply to this cos he has a better idea from what the report said.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be wor #12764 07/01/2006 03:53 07/01/2006 03:53
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I would be interested in the answer as I changed mine yesterday, took 45 minutes & I cannot see how it could be done incorrectly, unless as stated they either didn't tighten it enough or overtighten'd & damaged the bearing.

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be wor #12765 07/01/2006 21:24 07/01/2006 21:24
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Right, don't quote me on this, as I don't have the report to hand, but the jist of the report was that there was no indication of weakness of the bearing component - e.g. it hadn't run out of lubricant. A chamfering of the brake pads on that side of the car indicated that there had been some prior movement. (The rear brake pads had been changed on both sides of the car at the same time as the bearing was done). There was no chamfering of the brake pads on the other side of the car. Investigations as to the required size and placement of washers either side of the bearing had been inconclusive. That's pretty much the jist of the report. H

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be wor #12766 11/01/2006 10:20 11/01/2006 10:20
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,563 Northampton England Sedicivalvole Club member 2092
Sedicivalvole Club member 2092 Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,563 Northampton England	Mate ask for what price you want for your car, be it reasonable but inflate it so its accurate, don't take second best, if its not going through insurance you want the price it would cost you to get a replacement in the same condition. To some extent ignore the mileage its the cost to replace with an identical specimen. Hammer the [***] out of em. Otherwise your left out of pocket and fat buisness man has another drink on you at the golf course! Vinci Grey LE Alfa 147 GTA 3.2 V6 BMW E92 M3 4.0 V8 Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole 2.0 16v ABS

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be wor #12767 15/01/2006 05:34 15/01/2006 05:34
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	just curious, what garage did you go to ?

Re: Help please.... How much would my coupe be wor #12768 25/01/2006 09:15 25/01/2006 09:15
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Sorry, not prepared to reveal that at this point in order not to unfairly prejudice any action which may follow. However, I would think that any specialist recommended on this forum can be trusted. H

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