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Alfa 330mm rotors #1408950
05/02/2013 01:57
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How easy will the Alfa 330mm brakes fit, i.e. Calipers etc.?

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Also; could the 166 310mm disc's fit into our calipers maybe..?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-166-3-2-v...=item439acec13f

Their inner diameter is also smaller so overall the area is substantially larger. (If one could find oversized Carbotech pads Bob would certainly be my uncle..?) smile

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They should be pretty simple i think. I believe he original 305 calipers on a GTA the same as the coupe. You would just need the upgrade kit with some suitable discs.

However unless you can get some secondhand it will probably be easier and cheaper to get an off the shelf kit from another source.

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I also think you need to make sure you get the caliper from the 156/147/GT as I think the later 159 etc have different (radial) mounts.

Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1409203
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the Alfa Romeo 330mm calipers bolt on as the bolt diameter is the same.

166 Brembos will not fit.

As for the 166 Disc's fitting, this will need to be trial and error.

one thing with the 330mm brembos, you will need to change your wheels as they do not fit under standard coupe wheels.

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Do you have to change the brake hose/line?


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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1409241
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standard brake pipes from the coupe should fit as there the same fitment!

Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: ] #1409314
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Thanks for the input.

Originally Posted By: Marco20ValveT
As for the 166 Disc's fitting, this will need to be trial and error.

one thing with the 330mm brembos, you will need to change your wheels as they do not fit under standard coupe wheels.

Yes, that's a good reason to try & fit the 310mm ones which fits inside the 16" wheels, incl. some trial&error.. But I like that sort of thing. smile

Pic of the disc's, Alfa 166 left and Coupe 20VT right:

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could be worth a shout mate!

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marco is the 330mm calipers pretty much a bolt on replacement then ? and i take it we could either get 2 piece discs made or re drill alfa ones to suit out stud pattern

whats a very very rough ballpark figure for doing this ?

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Will the 166 disc fit over the coupe hub? The 166 disc is 10mm less diameter than the coupe disc on the hub mounting face.

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Originally Posted By: THE_G
marco is the 330mm calipers pretty much a bolt on replacement then ? and i take it we could either get 2 piece discs made or re drill alfa ones to suit out stud pattern

whats a very very rough ballpark figure for doing this ?


Yes they should be, there is an upgrade kit available for the GTA to go from 305 to 330 and the mounts are the same. If your sourcing caliper you need to make sure they arent for a newer model which have different mounts. Also you will need suitable 17" alloys. Not sure on the disks.

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Originally Posted By: THE_G
marco is the 330mm calipers pretty much a bolt on replacement then ? and i take it we could either get 2 piece discs made or re drill alfa ones to suit out stud pattern

whats a very very rough ballpark figure for doing this ?

I saw that MTEC sells GTA discs (330mm). Maybe they can send discs with Fiat Coupé bolt pattern. cool


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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1410333
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330 discs is damn heavy, and it's pointless upgrade if not on 4x4 Coupe or at least above 400HP and trackdays a lot......
Useful brembo "upgrade" is 310mm discs with Alfa 166 Brembos, Alfa 145 1.9JTD bigger hubs and custom plate between the hub and the caliper.


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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1410392
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I wrote it some time ago LANCIA DELTA III TBI has 330 mm disc brake's with 4 stud hole !!!! 4x98 even :-D

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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Ferrarist] #1410474
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Originally Posted By: Ferrarist
330 discs is damn heavy, and it's pointless upgrade if not on 4x4 Coupe or at least above 400HP and trackdays a lot......
Useful brembo "upgrade" is 310mm discs with Alfa 166 Brembos, Alfa 145 1.9JTD bigger hubs and custom plate between the hub and the caliper.

I only have ca 340hp but I run out of brakes anyway.. (I have the most hardcore 305mm setup already) so I need something more. Or I have to back off on the track but that's just no fun! smile

I'm thinking about the 310mm Alfa 166 disc's with Coupe calipers as I don't want to change wheel size, however I'm still not sure it will be worth it. But MTEC have them anyway:
http://www.mtecbrakes.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=1099
They're even a bit cheaper! smile

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what makes the alfas discs that much of an upgrade with only 5mm per ? is there something else going on that makes them better and i assume we would have to redril those to 4x98

the lancia setup sounds good but whats the chances of finding stuff for it ?

Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: ] #1410537
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an old library pic, but I had these made up by barbz ages ago, uses the Alfa Calipers ( straight fit ), although I got rid of the Alfa logo later on for a Brembo one !

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and how it looks...

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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: ] #1410543
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Originally Posted By: THE_G
what makes the alfas discs that much of an upgrade with only 5mm per ? is there something else going on that makes them better and i assume we would have to redril those to 4x98

It isn't! smile Just a little, probably. But you could keep the std wheels w existing R-tires on.

Taz: are those custommade alu-hubs? If so were they fitted offset from the std position and how did you solve the caliper position?

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Having swapped from 305 to 330s on my GTA I would say it not a pointless upgrade at all. They inspire much more confidence. I guess it depends on your requirements but I cant ever see better brakes as pointless....

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Per, yes mate, the alu' bells are custom, but they weren't perfect, as I had to shave a tad off the inner face of the pads to avoid it rubbing on the bell lip, a bit of a pain, but the pad surface is not affected, just the edge of the backing plate smile


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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Hyperlink] #1410651
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Originally Posted By: Hyperlink
They inspire much more confidence. I guess it depends on your requirements but I cant ever see better brakes as pointless....

Yes for sure there is much more confidence......and if brakes on some car is bad - better brakes upgrade is not pointless......
But it's pointless upgrade if tyres can not handle more braking force and slide anyway.....because there is a point where if OE brake system is fine and OK, it can offer more that tires can "grip".......good discs and pads IMO is OK for OE Coupe calipers if running standard tires......if semi's used then upgrade is good......
So maybe people must first be sure that there is still a problem when appropriate discs and pads is used, and only then upgrade to bigger calipers....
My point of view......


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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1410779
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Very true!
thanks for the Lancia Delta 330mm advice!
http://bit.ly/X8LB0C
Very nice, all bolt-on then! smile

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Taz, i have the same calipers as you..and yes, with the aformentioned alfa logo frown
how did you remove it on yours ?
or was it a straight re paint re sticker job ?

The car is down a Barbz,so i can`t check,I`m guessing the Alfa sticker is under the laquer so can`t be `polished /cut ` off


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Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1410880
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I removed my 330mm alfa stickers by rubbing them down before painting with caliper paint, then applied brembo sticker then lacquered.

They were are now gloss black with silver brembo decals, with NASCAR two piece discs and pagid yellows its all for sale wink .....but not cheap frown

Go lovely on a steel grey per.....

Re: Alfa 330mm rotors [Re: Per] #1410963
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Oh go on ship it over now! smile
I cannot promise I wouldn't paint them BLUE with that classic tall FIAT logo in white... cool

(it's Valentine's day..?)

(oh that's a different thing, ok.)

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Valentines day eh love

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I was talking about this disc rotor 330x28m 4stud) about year ago ...but nobody was listen tongue

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What? Did someone say something? hehe


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