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new car confirmed #1512768
23/10/2014 19:49
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Her in doors has signed off the purchase of an xkr (at last)!

So watch this space!!

Now what to do with the coupe, store it, sell it run in the winter?? I already run 2 cars, 3 is just plain daft!

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512785
23/10/2014 22:13
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I wouldn't call 3 cars daft, just makes choosing which to drive a little more difficult!

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512794
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Sell the other car that isn't a Coupe or a XKR. You didn't tell us what it was so it can't be that exciting!

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512801
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I have an XK8 and my Coupe - great combination of cars as far as I'm concerned. Guess an XKR would be even better but I avoid temptation by thinking of the fuel bills at 15k miles per year!

If space is required we also have a Freelander so all round plenty of choice - when it comes to cars you can't have too many can you?


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: andyps] #1512816
24/10/2014 07:05
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I have three cars frown driving yes


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512822
24/10/2014 08:07
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I'm also looking for an XK-something. There is so little price difference between an XK and an XKR here, it might as well be an XKR. It would be my third car too, and my wife has a car of her own. Not sensible but cars are not meant to be sensible.

Enjoy!


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512826
24/10/2014 08:27
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I only have room for 2 (atm), although I am looking into moving into a much larger house.

My wife has a diesel Bravo mjet - she wont run the coupe as she is allergic to spending money on anything but clothes and house décor (she grumbles at 50 mpg). Her idea of a car is as new as possible, my cars need to have something about them.

I don't want to get rid of the coupe, I've done 40 something k miles in it and it has been a fantastic car. If I put it to rest in a dry box the chances are it'll never see day light again. I may see what it's like on a shared car policy with the Jag but (having driven an my2011 na xk round the UAE) I feel the coupe would quickly loose most of it's sparkle. Especially when I have already found a guy to do me some cat backs and another who will map and change the S/C pulleys laugh

I do around 11k a year, the coupe returns me about 22 mpg and over the same commute over a 2 week period my dad's V12 Jag returned 11 mpg (that made my pockets hurt). I believe an XKR should give me around 20 - the whooooosh pop tsssccchhh of the coupe leads to late gear changes!

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512846
24/10/2014 09:22
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I'm the only one who "works" in our household so I have the main say about what we spend our money on smile Even so, a 4th car will stress our parking arrangements.

I have had my 20V Coupe from new and I will keep it a bit longer - at least until the next cambelt change. It will probably be worthless and rusty by then. It is already starting to go if you start looking closely. However, it is more my winter car. I would not use the XK in the snow and ice because of the salt, as long as I find a really clean one, so my Coupe will still serve a purpose.

The XK would make a really good weekend car. Commuting in a 5 liter car is not the wisest but I expect I will still do it in the summer, if I ever find one to actually buy smile


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: neil_r] #1512871
24/10/2014 12:08
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Originally Posted By: neil_r

The XK would make a really good weekend car. Commuting in a 5 liter car is not the wisest but I expect I will still do it in the summer, if I ever find one to actually buy smile


4.2 IIRC

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I know what it;s like to have "too many" cars. We have a modern house with a useless garage and a small drive.... but we have 3 cars (a works Pugeot, a Leon and the Coupe) plus a campervan.... and a motorbike. So that makes 5 vehicles !!!!!!!

I'd like to get rid of one... but which?

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Re: new car confirmed [Re: Gripped] #1512873
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Originally Posted By: Gripped
Originally Posted By: neil_r

The XK would make a really good weekend car. Commuting in a 5 liter car is not the wisest but I expect I will still do it in the summer, if I ever find one to actually buy smile


4.2 IIRC

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I was going to say that but thought 'you've got to stop being so annoying' and so didn't smile


F****** b****** thing...
Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512874
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I like being annoying. It's all part of being on an annonymous forum ! laugh

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512877
24/10/2014 12:18
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The newer ones are 5.0s and 500 bhp out of the box smile


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: neil_r] #1512890
24/10/2014 13:08
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Originally Posted By: neil_r
The newer ones are 5.0s and 500 bhp out of the box smile


I'm glad to be corrected as it means I got to surf for info on the new engine. wink

Mmmmm 503 bhp...

"A lack of poke certainly wasn’t a glaring deficiency of the old XKR, but the new engine means that it shoots from 0-60mph in just 4.6sec, compared with 4.9sec. The killer blow is that the XKR now fires from 50-70mph in 1.9sec, up against the 2.5sec it took the old one."

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512892
24/10/2014 13:12
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All these cars we run and they say we're living in times of austerity.
The motor industry is positively thriving. We are doing far more collections at uk manufacturing places that export to foreign car plants than ever.
ABB Sweden produce robots that build cars here and we've been taking a lot to the new jag plant in Birmingham.

Times seem only to be as hard as we're told they are.

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512893
24/10/2014 13:14
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The 5.0 XKR is a really tempting package. A bit harder edged that a traditional Jaguar, while being completely usable on a daily basis as long as there are just two of you and a very nice place to be cocooned in.

Biggest problem in Germany is that they are all black. But black is growing on me or am I getting desperate to spend some money?


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512898
24/10/2014 13:56
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I'm hunting electric blue and it will be a 4.2, the newest shape in r spec is pushing 30k at the lower end, I need to move house so that's a bit too far. I'm thinking £15-20k.

The 4.2 can be made to 500 bhp quite easily.

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512900
24/10/2014 14:38
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All the XKs are nice. Blue suits it really well. I started off looking for a good 4.2 XK with low miles and big wheels but I seem to have ended up targeting a 5.0 XKR with the R-Perf interior. I haven't bought a car for 14 years, so I have some money in the car budget smile

I am however resigned to waiting for the right car and the right deal. The German market for these is very confused at the moment and has stagnated with much too high sticker prices and no buyers. Average forecourt time for an XKR is about 6 months! As more lease cars are returned/auctioned off (December is a peak period here due to business tax relief), they should help force a more realistic level. I would like one by late spring next year though...


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512902
24/10/2014 14:44
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If I went with the latest I would want the xkr-s, as they are a beast among beasts. Sadly out of my range atm!
I have no car fund currently residing with me as the coupe as eaten around £4k in the last two years and we've had 3 family holidays.......
Thankfully it's almost bonus season!

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512903
24/10/2014 14:55
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Personally, I don't like the looks of the "S". The nicest to my eyes is the original XK NA but it is not quite exciting enough in a straight line. For me, Jaguars should look a little understated but perform well. The XKR-S is just too showy for me. I would really feel rather self-conscious getting in and out of it smile


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1512930
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Perhaps! I've had the use of an xjs twr v12. That is understated but not, you get lots of looks and it's an awesome place to be. It's what has driven me to want an xkr!

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1518940
18/12/2014 18:56
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After further discussion and my wife changing jobs (3 mile commute rather than 25) we have changed car requirements. I must now have the family car (3 kids) and we need to lose her diesel as such short journeys are no good.

So plan 2 I get an s type r and she gets an essesse. Thoughts?

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1518977
19/12/2014 08:57
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S-Types are generally underrated. Find a good one and you should have a very good car for your money. A "bad" one could mean a bit of extra initial expense to get it right. They are getting on a bit too, so finding a good one is getting harder. The XF 5.0 could be an alternative, dropping the retro look for something still quite modern. Even the NA is impressively fast and sounds good too. As you know, I like Jaguars because they are a bit different and a bit less common. However, my experience is that they are also getting pretty reliable too. My S-Type is 14 years old, but has held together exceptionally well and has cost very little to run. I don't believe an E320 or a 528i from that era would have faired any better. Probably would not have come close.

An essesse is a FIAT 500, right? I quite like them but they are almost too popular to be desirable. I would also look at the Citroen DS3 similar but different, more space, competent chassis and good value. Both the 500 and the DS3 are on my virtual list as possibles for when my "daily" Coupe has to go.


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1518988
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There are a few 50k milers up for 9-10k which is very toppy but they look well looked after. I looked at an XF-R a few weeks back, but at £21k it would mean no new car for the wife, I don't want a loan for one. There was also an XKR-S in the same garage - OMG what a monster!!!

My wife loves the 500, she had an Abarth Seicento a few years back and loved it!

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Well the 500 seems to be settled then smile

Go in with your eyes open and the S-Type should be good. Have a look through http://www.jaguarforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27 and list out the weaknesses (lumpy gear change, central locking, wheel bearings, heater valves, etc). The list won't be that long, as the cars seem very solid but worth knowing what to look for.

A non-R XF (5.0 or 4.2 Supercharged) is not to be sniffed at though, if one appears in your preferred price range.

I have found a white XKR Speed Pack within mine and if we can get the few issues cleared up, it could be mine, but first the Christmas break and a good rest!


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1518992
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I really want the XKR, the kids really want an XKR but it would mean the wife driving an equally large car and I've tried that, it didn't work and it was used more like a battering ram than a car.

Thanks for the link I'll have a good luck through. I have seen the SV8 XF and they do seem a good buy, it all depends on the car and it's history. I chose well with my coupe and almost 6 years on I am still loving it and given what some people go through it has cost me very little, I intend to do the same with a Jag. I looked at the S range of Audis but they just aren't Jags.....

Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1518994
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Originally Posted By: Big_Muzzie
... battering ram ...


Why does that sound familiar!

The XF is the closest thing to a 4-door XK and is actually cooler inside. Depends on how much potential performance you are willing to drop - even the 4.2 V8 is fast and may be a better buy. If I was not in Germany, I would not consider an "R" Jaguar. There is nowhere to use the extra performance. The models just below are frighteningly competent without drawing attention to themselves and they hold their value less well so are better buys.

Audis leave me cold, I'm afraid, except for maybe the A5, which is borderline. Good products but no soul.


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1518995
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I have a requirement for a charged V8 - I have to have one in my life. I know the N/A's are fine cars BUT I would never be happy knowing I could of had a pair of chargers attached.
My plan is to amend the exhausts to be a tad less subtle under load, swap charger pullies and a gentle mapping. This should see me smiling, enjoying the noise and hopefully around the 500 hp mark.
The XF is a little common in diesel guise for my liking and puts me off a little. I do think they are brilliant, and that 5.0 V8 is a stormer. We shall see what happens come January!!

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I know what you mean about getting exactly what you really want. I have always taken the sensible option but this time it has to tick all the boxes.

Jaguars are rare in Germany so I forget what the car landscape looks like these days in the UK. However, having driven a 385 h.p. 5.0 XF N/A, I could blot out the fact that the diesels exist should the right one appear! But the S-Type R is also quite some car, which you can tune if the fancy takes you. Get as late a car as possible though as Jaguar continually improved the S-Type.


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Re: new car confirmed [Re: ] #1519023
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Ever considered the Monaro ??? Big v8 to play with

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Can't really compare the two, jag has pace, has an air of stealth and is comfortable as a mile muncher.
I'm sure a monaro is a capable car, as a track / weekend special it would be fine, as my family car and daily drive im not swayed. There's one for sale 3 miles from me, I've been at the garage when it was being viewed and run up.loud doesn't cover it.
It's a bit like a vx220 vs the elise, if I had a vauxhall I'd have to explain it, a lotus is a lotus.

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