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Heatwave is zapping power #1602979
20/06/2017 13:40
20/06/2017 13:40

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On my way to work yesterday evening, my Coop was clearly lacking a significant number of horses. It must have been around 30 degrees at the time, and it felt like I'd lost about 20/25% power! Now, I have read that warm air in the engine bay will cause a car to loose power, but can it really be that bad?

I had considered the issue to be something else, but when I left work at 4am and the outside temp had dropped to about 18 degrees, I'm happy to say all horses had returned to the stable. In fact, it's fair to say the road was all mine this morning 😏.

Anyway, anyone suggest the best way to prevent this? And why exactly does it happen?

Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1602985
20/06/2017 15:44
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Density of air and oxygen levels...higher engine temps etc....performance in a turbocharged car/the Coupe is reduced in hot weather.

Off the top of my head an Aquamist system may help?

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Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1602996
20/06/2017 17:09
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Originally Posted By Slugcatcher1


Anyway, anyone suggest the best way to prevent this? And why exactly does it happen?


1) Live somewhere cold

2) on an NA car, it's simply that hot air is less dense than hot and so contains less oxygen, which means less fuel can be burned and so less power. On a turbo, recall that air is heated when it's compressed. If it's too hot getting to the engine you'll get preignition and other nasties; the ECU backs things off to avoid your engine going bang.

3) possible cures: water injection, better intercooler, active cooling on the heat exchanger, driving at night...


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Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1603037
21/06/2017 07:24
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I remembered a thread on this from years ago and recall posting about an article I read in Autocar on the subject. Here it is!

2006!!


F****** b****** thing...
Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1603065
21/06/2017 15:15
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North Yorkshire? - don't worry it won't last laugh Longest day of the year it's downhill from here.

Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1603084
21/06/2017 20:02
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Yes, here comes the rain!

Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1603086
21/06/2017 20:32
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It's a breathtaking 17c up here at the moment..... laugh


I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: ] #1603105
22/06/2017 08:02
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Going North on the A9
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bonnet vents

Subaru style

It's the ONLY course of action.

That, or a radiator fan override switch...

Re: Heatwave is zapping power [Re: dante giacosa] #1603110
22/06/2017 08:53
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The only reason Subaru's have a bonnet scoop is because the intercooler is on the top of the engine...

It's debateable whether they actually help to get the airflow where it needs to be if the intercooler is up front where it should be. smile

Getting the fans on earlier will only help when standing - when moving at a decent speed they do very little to help if anything at all.


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