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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1625687
03/10/2018 16:01
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Not sure how logical this is but I'm sort of relieved you've eventually come around to keeping it. Manoeuvring through the whole process of difficult decision, write-up, posts and counter-posts, interest and discussion has apparently been your route to changing your mind, and it doesn't seem quite right that having spent all that time modifying it you pass it on to someone else!


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Edinburgh] #1625945
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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1626818
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I'm glad you've decided to keep it too Nigel. Yours is genuinely the only Coupe I've seen in the flesh and liked. Everything was so crisp and tidy yet I knew it was a monster underneath. You always called the Coop a 'Gauntlet in a silk glove' and yours is probably the best example of that on here. It was the inspiration to really start tidying mine up after visiting your workshop when you had one of those clearance weekends. It's a part of you now, you can never sell it nono

Originally Posted By Nigel
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My Westfield is now my "tinkering interest" - I'm really enjoying repeating what I did with the Coupe - a general programme of improvements over a period of time.

I can genuinely see why some people spend years and fortunes restoring an old car, only to sell it when they've finished. Its the journey, not the destination, and I think my journey with Coupes is coming to an end


On that note, I've decided to get mine back on the road. Aside from straight line performance, the Golf is a better car in every measurable way, but it's hopelessly outclassed in every other way. I had more fun starting the coop and turning it around on the drive the other day than I've had in the Golf since February.

I've already started my list of things to do and I've got a smile on my face writing this. I cannot wait to start tinkering again laugh

Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1626819
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The car is now booked in at Motormech for a full service, cambelt, water pump, all aux belts and a thorough check-up

Spring will see the wheels refurbed and new tyres fitted

I also now have a HUGE temptation - Motormech has just taken on distribution of BC Racing coilovers - we'll be fitting them to a car in the next few weeks, so I may just decide to try them out....


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1626825
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My son has coilovers on his Golf GTi and aside from the ride height he's got it at, I confess I am very impressed with the set up.


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1626826
09/11/2018 14:57
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Originally Posted By Nigel
The car is now booked in at Motormech for a full service, cambelt, water pump, all aux belts and a thorough check-up

Spring will see the wheels refurbed and new tyres fitted

I also now have a HUGE temptation - Motormech has just taken on distribution of BC Racing coilovers - we'll be fitting them to a car in the next few weeks, so I may just decide to try them out....


AD08Rs all the way! Let me know how you get on with the castor on those BC coilovers. I never did get it sorted on mine before taking it off the road, although Leighton did see he could sort it...

Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1626827
09/11/2018 15:53
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There are coilovers, and there are coilovers...

Some cheap/nasty/horrible, others expensive/nice/great...presumably BC's are in the latter category?


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: DaveG] #1626829
09/11/2018 16:19
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Originally Posted By DaveG
There are coilovers, and there are coilovers...

Some cheap/nasty/horrible, others expensive/nice/great...presumably BC's are in the latter category?


I suspect that BC coilovers are somewhere in the middle - not as good as Gaz but much, much better than the cheapo nasty Chinese stuff


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1626911
12/11/2018 12:37
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I had BC's on my 16vt and they were very hard even on the softest setting.
It did change direction like a fly though so I guess it's whether you can live with the bumpy ride or not.

Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627391
28/11/2018 22:36
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They are better than FK coilers as well


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627392
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Coilovers*


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627399
29/11/2018 10:38
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Nigel, I'm interested in why you think the Gaz coilovers are better than the BCs. Price is not particularly different between them as far as I can see but I've not done a full comparison as I'm trying to convince myself I can do another season on the suspension I've got.


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: andyps] #1627406
29/11/2018 13:26
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Originally Posted By andyps
Nigel, I'm interested in why you think the Gaz coilovers are better than the BCs.


Anecdotal evidence only - Jimbo (or was it Suba?) tried lots of suspension and said that Gaz was the best out of everything they had tried


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627409
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Thanks Nigel. Will see what I can find.


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: andyps] #1627433
29/11/2018 21:53
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I think Sparco used to run on the Gaz set up,I may be wrong but I seem to recall him testing them for Gaz or just giving feedback on what he had bought.

You could check his posts or search on here Andy.



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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627434
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Thanks Joe - I've found this thread https://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbt...927#Post1143927 but having read it I'm not sure I'm any the wiser about what is best!!


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627439
30/11/2018 09:14
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Like Sparco said,the Gaz kit is well put together but needs adjusting till you find a happy place.
My opinion is that as I only do track days and the occasional hill climb my adjustable Osravs and eibach springs are good enough and middle of the road price wise.

I'm not in competition with anyone so I'm happy. But mine doesn't go on the road.



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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627440
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Just to add that there are plenty of sports suspension company's in the uk that make bespoke systems.



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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627448
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I don't think my budget will run to a bespoke system!!


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1627486
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Back on topic.....

Had lots of work done on the Coupe last week - cambelt, water pump, aux belts, all tensioners, full service, cam variator gasket, camcover gasket, aircon regas.

Now that the belts are new, I ran it at full boost on the way home (1.6 bar - about 480bhp)

Turns out I need new tyres as well - wheelspin in the first four gears on damp surfaces.....

Good news is that I remembered why I enjoy it so much... smile


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1629144
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Originally Posted By Nigel

Good news is that I remembered why I enjoy it so much... smile


driving driving driving

Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1629147
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What a week to send the Alfa in for paintwork (just after I fitted the winter tyres)

Still - the Coupe has started first time, even in the -6 freezing fog this morning

TBH, I'm still in two minds about whether to keep it - I enjoy driving it, it still turns heads, sounds great and goes like stink, but it just isn't going to get used much while I have the Westfield in the garage

Let's see how I feel in Spring...


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1629176
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Originally Posted By Nigel
What a week to send the Alfa in for paintwork (just after I fitted the winter tyres)

Still - the Coupe has started first time, even in the -6 freezing fog this morning

TBH, I'm still in two minds about whether to keep it - I enjoy driving it, it still turns heads, sounds great and goes like stink, but it just isn't going to get used much while I have the Westfield in the garage

Let's see how I feel in Spring...


Megabusa/bike engine?

Nigel - serious offer here. If you can wait around 2-3 years when my wife and I are planning a house move, I'd hope I'd be in a good position then to take custodianship from you. However that's a long time to wait...

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P.S. For a video of some coops from a rally 10 years ago see the video on my facebook page - although I was in the Ferrari at the time...

https://www.facebook.com/shirazjiwacornwall/videos/vb.100012491587576/565675050525543/

Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: SJ2004] #1629182
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Originally Posted By SJ2004
Megabusa/bike engine?


No - just a humble Zetec 2-litre, but around 170bhp, so still pretty nifty when its only hauling 600kg

Originally Posted By SJ2004
Nigel - serious offer here. If you can wait around 2-3 years when my wife and I are planning a house move, I'd hope I'd be in a good position then to take custodianship from you. However that's a long time to wait...


It will either be long gone by then, or I will have kept it and thrown even more money at it

Now or never.... wink


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I've had another change of heart....

I drove the Coupe on Saturday for the first time in a few weeks - on the way home, I filled it up, as I'll probably use it for work for a couple of days this week. However, when I entered the mileage details into my Fuelly account, I realised that it has done about 2000 miles in the last two years. I'm paying about £500 a year in tax and insurance, which means over the last two years I've paid about £1000 to do 2,000 miles. Add in the regular maintenance and the fuel and its costing about £1 a mile, which is utterly ridiculous. Whilst I really enjoy driving it, with the Westfield to play with, it just isn't going to get driven enough to warrant keeping it.

So - I've decided it has to be sold....

As mentioned above, it had a full service, cambelt, water pump etc and the and of 2018 and it will have a fresh MOT next Saturday.

I'm now reducing the price to the point where it should be a no-brainer

New price - £9,995. If the asking price is met, I will include a set of freshly refurbished Plus alloys, a brand new (never fitted) Plus rocker cover and a bundle of other spare parts - probably £500 - £750 worth of stuff.

PLEASE will somebody take it on, as otherwise I'm getting to the point where it's worth more in bits, which would be criminal...


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1631058
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Great price Nigel.

I was tempted but I think ive been there and done it after 2 coops (one standard and one i done a fully forged build on etc)

Ive now gone for something a bit more modern and German and still quick.

Maybe try again on Pistonheads and Ebay, bit quiet on here nowadays.

Wish you all the best with the sale, someone will get ALOT of car (and power) for the money!

M


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Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel] #1631337
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Fresh MOT now on the Coupe - no advisories this year ( I had a rear numberplate light advised last year)

I'd much sooner sell to someone from FCCUK, but seeing as its so quiet on here now, it may have to go on Pistonheads or (God forbid) Ebay to get the exposure it needs


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cry cry cry

Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: SJ2004] #1631536
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Nigel,

Just checked your MOT History on https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/
N18 ELO

That is one seriously clean MOT history for the last ten years.

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