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Noisy clattering engine #1631720
15/04/2019 18:16
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Having finally got my 20VT fixed, MOT't taxed and insured etc my first run for a while ended up with a noisy clattering sound after around 20 minutes.
Sounds like its the engine or the valve gear but not sure. No loss of power or performance but obviously I'm not wanting to drive it any further.
Turbo is new, clutch is new, nothing has been done to the engine so very puzzling as I'm told they are bullet proof.
Any ideas anyone?

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1631731
15/04/2019 23:48
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Could be anything, can you post a video with good sound?

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1631736
16/04/2019 06:51
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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1631798
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I've (hopefully) attached a video. Valve spring?

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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1631799
18/04/2019 19:42
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You've attached an image, not a video. Maybe you can post it on youtube and then share the link here? smile

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1631847
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Check the oil - at least twice....

If the oil is too low, the hydraulic tappets struggle to fill and the engine will sound clattery


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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: Nigel] #1631963
26/04/2019 13:47
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Originally Posted by Nigel
Check the oil - at least twice....

If the oil is too low, the hydraulic tappets struggle to fill and the engine will sound clattery


In addition to above, does the cabin smell of burning oil, is the oil pressure gauge normal at idle and is the coolant temp running hotter than normal? If so, all signs of low oil level


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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632233
04/05/2019 16:39
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Full oil pressure on cold idle and when running warm. Pressure drops a bit on warm idle. Oil was low but not below minimum. Engine temp normal and no oil smells. Balance of opinion seems to be hydraulic valce lifters so many thanks everyone I'll get it checked out by my local Italian car specialist.

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632234
04/05/2019 16:54
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If it's a tapping sound like this then it's just a noisy tappet :

http://sendvid.com/mbumb1uc

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632270
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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632271
05/05/2019 16:13
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That's the bottom end and it sounds terminal.

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632272
05/05/2019 17:14
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Agreed - that sound like a failed big end bearing, which means the crank is probably dead

The best you can hope for is that a cam lobe is badly worn and is slapping the hydraulic tappet, but I really don’t think the sound is right for a top-end clatter

I have a good engine in stock, but I’m waiting to hear from another owner with a dead engine whether she wants it


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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632273
05/05/2019 17:27
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OK Nigel please let me know. I'll need to weigh up the cost of replacing the engine or having spent a fair bit already offering the car as is to the Fiat Coupe Club community.
Cheers

Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632275
05/05/2019 17:41
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The lady has decided not to repair - there’s just too much other work to be done.

So, the engine is available


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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632304
07/05/2019 00:15
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Re: Noisy clattering engine [Re: TheDaddy] #1632845
26/05/2019 14:53
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Thanks for all the advice.
I have decided to put the car on the market if any of you are interested. I do so having located an engine from a forum member and I have a price to install if the current one can't be repaired;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202689569747
Well worth a look.
Regards


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