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What car - comfortable and soft #1637722
21/12/2019 17:37
21/12/2019 17:37
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Another "what car" but with a twist - it should be as soft and comfortable as possible smile

Due to unexpected medical condition, I'm thinking about buying a temporary used car, budget up to 5.000gbp but could stretch.
Only other request is 4 doors - it can be hatchback, saloon, wagon, old suv; petrol or diesel; slowness, bad handling, long-term reliability not important.
It will be used in town and for short trips (max. 2h).

Currently own Coupe 20vt on stock suspension (I find it ok out of town but crashy in town) and Lancia Delta (a bit softer than Coupe but not by much - leather seats are a bit hard), plan on keeping them both.
The most comfortable car I owned / driven extensively was Alfa 156 with momo leather seats rolling on 15in wheels, but imagine there should be cars comfier than that... Citroen, Peugeot barges, maybe some Toyota or Koreans?

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637725
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In the coupe.
Mostly anything with the Lexus label.



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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: magooagain] #1637726
21/12/2019 20:47
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Thank You, but i'm in Croatia, Lexus a bit leftfield, only IS and RX were sold here.

Regardless, high(er) seating position, possibility of automatic gearbox and rear parking sensors are welcome but not essential.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637728
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It has to be a Mercedes then. Good luck with it.



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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637777
23/12/2019 23:05
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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637788
24/12/2019 10:22
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Citroen C6 (or any Citroen earlier than the C5, with hydro-pneumatic suspension)
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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637802
24/12/2019 22:36
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The best seats I have sat in are Volvo and Saab.

If you have back problems I can recommend the Backfriend

Turns even the most uncomfortable seats into a nice places

https://www.backinaction.co.uk/backfriend


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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637804
24/12/2019 23:37
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I guess an automatic gearbox would give extra comfort too.

By far the most comfortable vehicle I've owned is our current Mazda bongo V6 auto. Easy to drive, great visibility, very quiet and smooth. You sit high up with good ergonomics. It's easier to park than our cars because of the great mirrors and rear reversing mirror.

I expect the Nissan Elgrand would do similar with more plushness (they have limo like seats) and of course a 350z engine under the bonnet... (or under the seats).

Fuel economy not a strong point, but hey.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: Gripped] #1637814
26/12/2019 14:49
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Hi. Maybe I wasn't very precise - by comfort I ment ride quality, city (potholes, speedbumps) and B-road. Motorway comfort, as in stability, road noise etc. not important.
I've been driven in colleagues previous gen Merc E-class, AMG S-class, and previous and current gen 5-series, not impressed. Even worse, riding in the back of a 5-series sometimes makes me queasy.
Any suggestion for a non-premium smaller (up to 4.5-4.6m) cars or crossovers?
Eg. Citroen Cactus, Nissan Note, maybe some Toyota, Honda, Kia, Hyundai? Any oppinion on Merc 2nd gen A-class (last "raised" one), B-class, GLK; non R-spec Volvo?

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637867
31/12/2019 18:17
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If you want comfortable seats in an E Class, you need to go back to the W211 - after that they made them very hard. For a softer ride, get something with smaller wheels. I was talking to an independent Merc specialist and asked him for the most reliable Merc - C220 CDI post 2003. Same for an E220. I have a 2006 E320 CDI estate as a tow car and I love it.

I really liked my A Class though it was first gen and killed ARB bushes in 20k.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: sugerbear] #1637894
02/01/2020 16:15
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Originally Posted by sugerbear
The best seats I have sat in are Volvo and Saab.

If you have back problems I can recommend the Backfriend

Turns even the most uncomfortable seats into a nice places

https://www.backinaction.co.uk/backfriend


Agree 100%. Volvo S80 / S60 - then Saab a close 2nd.

I've done 140,000+ miles in Saab 9-3's (vector / Aero seats) with lots of long business trips.


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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637900
03/01/2020 04:15
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Don’t laugh

But in my opinion the best car seats I’ve sat in and
I have driven a lot of different cars
Both owned and rentals

Is a pt cruiser
The seats are like sitting on your sofa

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: Alan_K] #1637949
05/01/2020 21:45
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Originally Posted by Alan_K
Don’t laugh

But in my opinion the best car seats I’ve sat in and
I have driven a lot of different cars
Both owned and rentals

Is a pt cruiser
The seats are like sitting on your sofa

No laughing matter. For reasons too complicated to explain here, we recently bought a PT Cruiser. The seats are indeed comfy, but it is by some distance the most dynamically inept vehicle I've ever owned. The turning circle makes a 20VT look like a miniature London taxi. Reliability is also a little, er, suspect, in every aspect from electrics to suspension, via transmission. So, you may get to spend plenty of time in the comfy seats - waiting for the AA.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1637985
06/01/2020 18:58
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Also a bit leftfield but you could try a Rover 75 especially if you are looking at a budget option, very comfortable cheap and actually well made cars. There's a range of engines, 1.8 turbo (which I'd avoid), 2ltr, 2.5 V6 and a V8 (you can forget the budget bit on this one!) there are also a couple of diesels using BMW engines which are pretty good.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1638011
07/01/2020 16:35
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Might be too new to be within budget but the newer Hyundai Tucson, 2016 - on, rides well and has good seats. Definitely worth a test drive.

Btw, is that 5000 Pounds bought in the UK or actually 6000€ bought on the continent. My experience is at around this budget, the UK is dramatically better value. 6000€ doesn't buy all that much out here.

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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1638012
07/01/2020 17:08
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A 2011/12 ish Volvo S60 SE is a very comfortable car (great seats and ride quality) and would be well within budget.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1638014
07/01/2020 17:54
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My wife had a V60 D3 which was a nice car, comfortable enough, but not supremely comfortable I wouldn't have said, but the cam belt slipped a few teeth and the inlet cam got trashed, ended up as a distress sale in the end. I'd recommend a Jaguar XF, but it's perhaps a little long at 4.96 m and perhaps too "premium"?


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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: neil_r] #1638045
09/01/2020 09:47
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Originally Posted by neil_r

Btw, is that 5000 Pounds bought in the UK or actually 6000€ bought on the continent. My experience is at around this budget, the UK is dramatically better value. 6000€ doesn't buy all that much out here.


Hi. My actual budget is 10-12k €, I've "adjusted" budget to 5k GBP because I've seen UK used car values are dramatically lower than Croatia.
Anyway, the budget is not fixed, and by this Thread I'm looking for suggestions what cars to try (arrange a drive).

So far, I've shortlisted Mercedes B-class (w246 = after 2011, without Sport trim/suspension), Citroen C5 (after 2007, in trim with Hydropneumatic suspension), Renault Kadjar (on smaller wheels), maybe Hyundai Tucson (2nd gen - from 2009) and Volvo V40 (hatchback), V50 (older model) or V60 (maybe too big / posh / expensive).
Keep them coming smile

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1638145
13/01/2020 08:39
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Try a Skoda Superb, best ride I have found for the money and well specified.


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Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1638199
14/01/2020 19:31
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Must admit I like a Skoda.

The cool feature for me on the Superb is the split boot / hatch back.

Quite fancy an Octavia vRS.

Re: What car - comfortable and soft [Re: gturcic20vT] #1638232
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Hmmm, just not really superb styling though...


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