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Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
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21/03/2022 15:32
21/03/2022 15:32
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KevinW
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Have seen a lot of Good reports on the Bilstein B6 to improve the crashy ride, but unfortunately they are no longer available (for the front), unless someone knows a second hand source? Any other ones which are recommended to improve the ride quality, that are still available thanks?
KevinW Milton Keynes UK
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
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21/03/2022 17:25
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For what it’s worth, I had them on my Coop years ago and found them very hard and crashy. One gave up the ghost after only 4000 miles or so, still have the other shock in my garage.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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22/03/2022 09:50
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Depending on what you want from the car, it might be worth just getting new standard shocks for the car. I seem to remember Bockers doing this and he said the difference between his old standard shocks and new shocks were vastly different.
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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22/03/2022 12:52
22/03/2022 12:52
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Timely,
Had a great spring day drive on Sunday in my coupe after slowly bringing it out of winter hibernation over the last two weeks.
Tyre pressures dropped to norm, all fluids checked, and topped as necessary. Quick check of all connections/wiring and checking over all of the more readily reachable bolts, screws etc on wheels, under the hood etc.
Washed, hovered and drive.
She looked great. And the drive was great - excepting for the crashing of the front of the car over every hub, drain cover, bump or strip in the road. On flat tarmac -things were great.
The suspension was all renewed a few years back to take her back to factory. But seems like there is more to do. I'm not looking for lowered racing track handling. Comfy GT is where I am at these days-something that does not rattle the teeth.
I'm thinking the shocks should be like-half the rating. To make things more bearable.
I may be getting old....
MM
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: Countrycruising]
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23/03/2022 16:42
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Hi Joe,
I've got them on 37 psi at front. And 32psi at the rear. Found having them higher on the front made the crashiness even worse.
The Newer Toyo's tyre design was fitted last year to the fronts and that improved the crashiness a bit- the rears are on older design Toyo tyres that I have considered swopping out- but as the rear feels ok - and the tyres have like new tread on them- I always bulk at getting rid of them for the sake of it.
Wink - interesting - mine is the Crash of any ripple or bump. I'm maybe becoming jolt intolerant - but it feels to me the CRASH is at the start. Suspension feels quite flowing on smooth tarmac. And not felt any crashiness on rebound.
Nigel - Thanks - was trying to keep coupe standard - or standard "plus" as I call it (fitted recaro's and the front engine bay sparco strut) I'll have a search for them - I'm up for trying to find an off the peg solution - if it saves a year of driving fun!
Regards
MM
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Last edited by Master_Mariner; 23/03/2022 16:46.
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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23/03/2022 19:28
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The car has only done 53K so would be surprised if the shocks are worn much. Perhaps I'm too used to my Mazda 3 sport now, which has an amazingly smooth ride in comparison. Having said that you only notice the problem on poor roads with roughness over a certain severity.
Last edited by KevinW; 23/03/2022 19:57.
KevinW Milton Keynes UK
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: Master_Mariner]
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24/03/2022 10:29
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Hi Joe,
I've got them on 37 psi at front. And 32psi at the rear. Found having them higher on the front made the crashiness even worse. 37 psi is too high, that's 2.55 bar, drop it to 34 and see how that feels.
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: 386ka]
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24/03/2022 12:25
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What pressures do you recommend for front and rear then? I think the fronts are 2.7 bar as per the manual, which seems quite high... I always find 2.7 too high for UK roads, I run mine at 2.4 front and 2.2 rear, it takes the edge off without upsetting the handling.
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: wink]
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24/03/2022 16:04
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I commented about rebound crashiness because on my Coupe it feels as though the worst thump comes when going over recessed expansion joints when I assume the wheel is moving down into the rut. Re. mileage - I've been assured by more than one mechanic that anything over 30k miles and dampers are likely worn out. Maybe we're just noticing the 30 year-old suspension design? Our daily drive is an Alfa Giulietta with 18" wheels and 40 profile tyres - when we got it I assumed the ride would be horrid but although it's firmer than the Coupe it's also much more compliant and better controilled. The Coupe rolls and wallows in comparison. I have never had dampers wear out noticeably on any car I have owned and they have all done from 80K to 130K. I suppose pure age might be an issue but trusting what a mechanic says is a bit like trusting your ex to manage your finances
KevinW Milton Keynes UK
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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29/03/2022 15:16
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A full set of NOS Bilstein B6s have popped up on ebay for anyone looking for them.
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: wink]
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05/09/2022 15:25
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I've just replaced my Monroe shockers with OSRAV adjustables all round. Thanks to Nigel and everyone else who recommended them. It was immediately apparent that they are much better. The ride feels more controlled and the crashiness and bouncing is gone. It now feels like there is some proper damping. Torque steer and dive under braking are also much improved. I'm really pleased with them. For any others who want to try the OSRAVs, they're available from Zagato Lancia in London, made to order in Italy so they took a couple of months to arrive. They come set to the middle of their range - I turned them one full turn clockwise (softer) from the default setting, which sets them to around 25% hard, and it seems pretty much spot on for my tastes. The front ones are readily adjustable on the car with an allen key in the top of the strut, but the rears have to be removed to adjust. If anyone wants my set of Monroes for free - they have done approx. 10k miles - PM me. Good to read you're sorted and enjoying the change :thunb:
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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21/09/2022 22:11
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Jamiepm
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Just ordered a full set from zagato, delivered price is £715 with a 6 to 8 week lead time, have ordered a set of Eibach springs to go with them.
She's alive!
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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08/01/2023 15:23
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Jamiepm
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I have the suspension stuff and yesterday I removed the original strut assembly
I’m somewhat behind my own schedule, but anything I touch I want to make right so that I don’t have to touch it again
Cheers Jamie
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
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02/03/2023 16:32
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I've just replaced my Monroe shockers with OSRAV adjustables all round. Thanks to Nigel and everyone else who recommended them. It was immediately apparent that they are much better. The ride feels more controlled and the crashiness and bouncing is gone. It now feels like there is some proper damping. Torque steer and dive under braking are also much improved. I'm really pleased with them. For any others who want to try the OSRAVs, they're available from Zagato Lancia in London, made to order in Italy so they took a couple of months to arrive. They come set to the middle of their range - I turned them one full turn clockwise (softer) from the default setting, which sets them to around 25% hard, and it seems pretty much spot on for my tastes. The front ones are readily adjustable on the car with an allen key in the top of the strut, but the rears have to be removed to adjust. If anyone wants my set of Monroes for free - they have done approx. 10k miles - PM me. Sounds encouraging. Are they alot better than the standard shocks then (assuming these are in decent condition). Since my bushes have been replaced the ride is now alot better. Just wondering if the Osrav adjustables would offer a noticeable improvement. Car has done 55K only and ride not too bad.
KevinW Milton Keynes UK
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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02/03/2023 16:47
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I should in the next week have wheels back on the ground, so I can give feedback
I would hope that given the price, they perform better than a Monroe offering
Cheers Jamie
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Re: Replacement Shocks for smoother ride
[Re: KevinW]
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03/04/2023 14:53
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Having driven for a couple of hours now, I can say that the OSRAV shocks simply make the ride compliant. No crashiness, no wallowing. coupled with the other tings I've done (uprated rear arb and eibach springs), it really has transformed the ride of the car
Cheers Jamie
She's alive!
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