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Decision between 2 coupes #1658156
09/06/2022 14:45
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Hello!

So I am having a hard time choosing whats the best choice between 2 deals on a 20 valve turbo

First car is a white colour year 1999 Plus edition. It's got a slightly higher milage than the other one car. But its not much. Of course being a plus, it's got more or less all equipment, no sunroof.

Second car is a steel grey 1998 but not a plus. It's got seats replaced by Plus seats, the strut bar in the engine department and a different aftermarket body kit.

Main difference of course is that it doesent have the brembo brakes, 6 speed transmission and push start button

Price difference between the cars is approx. 20% with the second car being cheaper. Since it's Denmark, 20% is like 2000 £ difference due to our high taxes.

Another difference is that the white plus appears to have been same owner last 10 year while the other car had a few.

Both is in good condition. Cambelt was replaced 1 year ago on second car and 3 years ago on first car.

What would you choose and why? First car is using all of my budget and the second car will leave some cash aside.

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658158
09/06/2022 15:55
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Go for the Plus. As you've said, its got all the equipment, it should hold and (hopefully) increase its value better.

Unless it's a rust bucket and the other isn't.

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Morrison] #1658159
09/06/2022 16:05
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A good rule of thumb is to always have at least 15% (ideally 20%) of your new car budget set aside for dealing with hidden issues when you buy any car.

All cars usually need some tlc once you own them. Even if its just tyres and brake pads!

For me I'd choose the plus- rarer colour and as a 20Vt6 owner I like the 6 speed box and the white dials. I prefer my plus wheels to the standard. Push button starter is not really that fancy these days and has its own issues-but goes with the feel of the run out models from the LE onwards.

But- both cars sound nice...lucky you to have the choice.

Hope you enjoy whatever one you get as long as they are in good condition.

Regards

MM

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658160
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I forgot to mention, the second one has the white dials from a plus.

I agree with the plus being worth more, just that I will need to also pay extra to get it now, so if it will pay off in the end is hard to tell

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Master_Mariner] #1658161
09/06/2022 16:12
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I agree about having cash aside lol. I want a plus most naturally, but mainly for the 6 speed transmission. I had one a few years ago in 6 speed, never tried the 5 speed

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658164
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Originally Posted by Heindrik

Main difference of course is that it doesent have the brembo brakes...



All Coupé 20v Turbos have the same Brembo brakes thumb


F****** b****** thing...
Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658170
09/06/2022 20:55
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Unless you have a strong preference for one or other colour, I would say to choose based only on condition. The later cars actually often have more corrosion than the earlier ones. Check the perimeter of the boot floor especially for rust. And how does each car drive?

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658171
09/06/2022 21:28
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In this country at least the LE and the Plus attract premium prices and the less they are modified the higher the value. The second one sounds as though it might have been 'interferred' with, hopefully just from a styling point of a view but for example do the new dials reflect the mileage?
Few buy a coupe as an investment but it might make sense not to loose more then you need to.

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: respace] #1658173
09/06/2022 22:03
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I agree with the premium, but in this case its a fair price.

Well its a none plus but it has several plus items on it. The bodykit is not from a plus though.

I prefer The white, but the steel grey is not too bad either. I would love a yellow or red, but there is few coupe to buy here 😄

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658193
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As long as the Plus isn't rusty, then I'd always go for it over a standard 20VT, even if it's €2k more expensive. The seats and the 6-speed gearbox are worth the extra cost just on their own. In my opinion, the white dials are a backward step as they are far harder to read than the 'white on black' of the standard car.


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Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Nigel] #1658202
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The 1998 have the seats, just not the 6 speed.

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658222
12/06/2022 10:05
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+1 for the plus. Less modifications and better anyway.

Re: Decision between 2 coupes [Re: Heindrik] #1658224
12/06/2022 10:46
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If you do long distances then the recaro seats are a big plus (sorry!)


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