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360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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08/01/2006 19:44
08/01/2006 19:44
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I´m gonna fit my 360 modena front now in a while, And i´m going to build a fmic! But there is no hole in the middle so it can cool the fmic?! juts the two at the side as the original ferrari 360 modena front! But would it cool it enough?
Greetings/Emil
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
#20534
10/01/2006 17:18
10/01/2006 17:18
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I think it would be a bad idea to put an FMIC on a 360 bumper. It's also a bit pointless because with a bigger cutout on the sides the sidemount is getting as much air as a front mount would. It's only because the standard bumper has really small holes for air to the sidemount that it becomes worthwhile to mount it at the front. On the cooling side, I guess it is no worse than having a FMIC in front of an aircon radiator in front of the radiator.
Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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10/01/2006 17:27
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The zender looks better suited to an FMIC IMO or you could always cut the standard bumper up a little and rebuild it...
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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10/01/2006 18:48
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In short if you really want good flow to an IC stay standard or chop some slats out of the standard one and smooth it all off??
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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10/01/2006 19:37
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That's not quite what I meant!
If you want more power than standard then any way you look at it you want to replace the OE intercooler. The OE intercooler cannot take much more than standard boost, and is not great for airflow through the intercooler
If you have a Zender bumper and want to uprate then a front mount or an uprated sidemount are both viable alternatives. The main benefit of having an FMIC in that scenario is the shorter pipe run, and the intercooler being physically futher forwards in the bumper. The drawback is less airflow to the radiator and aircon radiator. With a standard bumper an FMIC will get a lot more airflow over it than the standard location (of the order of twice as much air) which is why it is so beneficial. You could chop some slats off too if you want even better airflow.
On the 360 bumper the standard intercooler position is going to be better than a front-mount
Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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10/01/2006 22:02
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Sorry i didnt mean to stay with standard IC Meant bumper sorry for not being clear Cheers for the info JohnS think i may have to get playing with the front bumper if i get the PA unit but looking tight...
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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10/01/2006 22:10
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I belive I've seen 360 bumpers with a third hole in the middle. Would one of those provide enough airflow for a frontmounted IC?
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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10/01/2006 23:23
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I was thinking of removing 2/3 of the slats, smoothing them off and leaving much bigger holes but i think it would take some good work with a sander and poly filler to get right but did fancy the zender bumper but wouldnt want to chop it No worries matey you should get us some links upto where you host your zillion pics of your modded coop in various states as well
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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11/01/2006 03:22
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Cheers John Give us all an idea what you need for a reliable 450+bhp
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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11/01/2006 04:39
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The original modena bumper designed by Joey did have a hole in the middle for airflow to the radiator... Also, it has way better airflow then most other bumpers when using the OE IC.
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Re: 360 modena front bumper, Cooling
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11/01/2006 19:48
11/01/2006 19:48
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Like Ive said previously - Ive had my bumper for a couple of years now and my fmic for a few months - without any coolling issues. Infact using Barnacles diagnostic widget DocFrags car was only 4deg cooler than mine generally. I put this down to him having aquamist. There is a 3rd hole in the bumper. The rad is the only problem I can see with the FMIC, since the install temps on the diagnostics show another 10deg whilst sat in traffic although on the gauge in the car it still hoovers at 90 whilst showing 100 on the ECU
Last edited by Kevin; 11/01/2006 19:54.
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