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is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224427 27/10/2006 07:44 27/10/2006 07:44
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I'm looking to buy a coupe sometime in the next few months, just kinda wondering if the 20vt is considerably better than the 16vt? i don't plan to tune it for a while (i'll be 21 when i buy it, so insurance will be tight as it is) so, which is better standard? and are they reliable? cheers.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224428 27/10/2006 11:00 27/10/2006 11:00
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Anonymous Unregistered A	well insurance will be better on the 16vt 5cylinder for the 20v 4 for the 16v so 20v is more smoother and sounds better and the 16v is getting on a bit these days so the 20v is newer and about a sec quicker to 60 and about 2-3 secs quicker to 100 as standard but since ure 21 might be woth for insurnace reasons going for the 16vt and getting a 20vt when u can afford it mate there both amazing cars!!

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224429 27/10/2006 13:59 27/10/2006 13:59
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The 20vt is a newer car but the 16vt still looks gorgeous and is not exactly a slouch! I think it depends on your budget to buy the car - if you have 4k+, plus a decent amount for maintenance and can get an insurance deal, go for a 20vt ... if you have a budget of 3k or less and you know pennies will be tight for upkeep, go for a 16vt It's not unusual for maintenance to cost a grand in the first year - turbo, clutch, manifold all cost £400+ to replace ... you may be lucky and it not cost you much more than a few hundred for a service, but you may not

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224430 27/10/2006 14:12 27/10/2006 14:12
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Now u see i'm not too sure about all this "the 20vt sounds better", at the last meet i went to by far and away the car that everyone wanted to be overtaken by was Adyr's 16vt, the roar was just fantastic. The 20vt's sound like a massive hoover. In my 1 year of coop ownership i've paid out (in mainanence) : 1 small Service - £120 2 new Tyres - £100 New Clutch - £450 New Wishbones, and Cambelt - £750

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224431 27/10/2006 19:47 27/10/2006 19:47
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Anonymous Unregistered A	i was 21 wen i bought my 20vt coupe, the only insurance company to touch me was elephant which is part of the admiral group!! everyone else kept saying you have to be over 25 to insure the coop!! it cost me a grand to insure then and now being 23 it costs me £850 so its not that bad considering a mate pays £3000 on a 1.6 megane coupe!!! and i would say its worth the extra! when i wanted one i test drove the 4 different engine versions and the 20vt was the first i drove so i was dissapointed with the rest!

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224432 27/10/2006 20:04 27/10/2006 20:04
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran
pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales	Yes. sorry 16v chaps! I much prefer my 20VT. Coopless!

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224433 27/10/2006 20:14 27/10/2006 20:14
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Go drive both + check out insurance + make your choice from there. There are plenty of looked after 16vt's out there - and plenty of neglected 20VT's!

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224434 27/10/2006 21:04 27/10/2006 21:04
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I have both and its 20vt everytime.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224435 27/10/2006 22:02 27/10/2006 22:02
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Anonymous Unregistered A	im 21 and have a 20vt it sucks because it costs me £2300 tpft and i woundnt tell you how much i have spent in the last 6 months on mods but everytime i get in it, it always puts a smile on my face so it is worth every penny

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224436 27/10/2006 22:21 27/10/2006 22:21
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Anonymous Unregistered A	OMG!! £2300 tpft!!!

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224437 27/10/2006 22:28 27/10/2006 22:28
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Anonymous Unregistered A	lol damm sorry but im 23 and pay 700 quid tptf

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224438 28/10/2006 00:26 28/10/2006 00:26
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	i know it sucks. but worth it

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224439 28/10/2006 01:59 28/10/2006 01:59
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Anonymous Unregistered A	2300 TPFT? :\| I was quoted 1100 TPFT on a 20vT, not checked out the 16vT price yet though. I'll drive both, and see which I prefer then

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224440 28/10/2006 02:00 28/10/2006 02:00
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Anonymous Unregistered A	who was that with if you dont mind me asking???? my renewal is up next mounth

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224441 28/10/2006 02:28 28/10/2006 02:28
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	that was on confused.com, with admiral. the 16vT was a whole THIRTY pounds less, so I think I'll go for a 20vT

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224442 28/10/2006 07:03 28/10/2006 07:03
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: I'm looking to buy a coupe sometime in the next few months, just kinda wondering if the 20vt is considerably better than the 16vt? i don't plan to tune it for a while (i'll be 21 when i buy it, so insurance will be tight as it is) so, which is better standard? and are they reliable? In short, the 20VT is probably not worth the premium over a 16VT if you're short of cash. But the 16VT is more prone to dropping it's cambelt with very expensive results. I speak as one who has looked at the top of the cylinders of a 16VT and seen what a snapped cambelt can do. Having said that, a good 16VT is better than an unloved 20VT. cheers.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224443 28/10/2006 07:27 28/10/2006 07:27
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	money isn't tight tight, I'll have about 4k to spend on a car, maybe a bit more.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224444 28/10/2006 17:05 28/10/2006 17:05
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: money isn't tight tight, I'll have about 4k to spend on a car, maybe a bit more. I'd say go for a 20VT in that case but make sure it's had all the expensive work (cambelt & ancilliary belts, water pump,wishbones, track rod ends, clutch, oil pipes, brake discs and a full service) done within the last year or so. The total bill for all that work can easily run to nearly 2 grand. Make sure that the oil pressure when the engine is hot and idling is around 2 bar or above and I would get a compression test done before you buy. Let us know how you get on.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224445 28/10/2006 23:41 28/10/2006 23:41
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I can't believe what some of you pay for insurance. Mine is £300 and something fully comp for my 20vt. Feel quite pleased to be in my 30s now. Good luck finding a coupe, you'll love it.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224446 28/10/2006 23:59 28/10/2006 23:59
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	well, its only money might as well enjoy it while I can. I'd rather be paying 1100 quid TPFT on a decent car, than 1100 FC on something dull. Cheers for the tips Alan

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224447 29/10/2006 04:54 29/10/2006 04:54
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Anonymous Unregistered A	18 years old and pay 1900 tpft

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224448 30/10/2006 04:33 30/10/2006 04:33
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,960 west bromwich C coupedummy Je suis un Coupé
coupedummy Je suis un Coupé C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,960 west bromwich	im 21 and pay 970 tpft with 3 points on social use only and love my 20vt turbo.had it just ova a month and so far service 150 quid slave cylinder and brakes hoses 90 quid thats it.

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224449 09/11/2006 00:52 09/11/2006 00:52
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	ive had the pleasure of owning both and like everyone else its 20vt everytime!! worth the extra ££ too ive bought one from a garage and managed to get a nice warranty for 6 months came in handy today as the rad sprung a leak lol as for insurance i pay £900 fully comp and am 24 i must say i did have a few probs getting quotes from some places as they wanted me to be over 25!!

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224450 09/11/2006 01:28 09/11/2006 01:28
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: im 21 and pay 970 tpft with 3 points on social use only and love my 20vt turbo.had it just ova a month and so far service 150 quid slave cylinder and brakes hoses 90 quid thats it. Who are you with???

Re: is the 20vt really worth the extra? #224451 11/11/2006 23:44 11/11/2006 23:44
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,960 west bromwich C coupedummy Je suis un Coupé
coupedummy Je suis un Coupé C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,960 west bromwich	Im with elephant.Also bell was 30 quid more,regret not goin with bell to be honest as i could of paid 29 pound more and be insured on other peoples cars third party only.With elephant you have to be over 25 for that

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