After a turbulent time with my car Im considering selling up.

As some of you may know the car is currently idling at 1.5bar oil pressure and although everything seems perfectly fine (oil pressure goes right up to 3 bar when you go above 1.5/2k rpm, no noises etc) I know it will affect a sale price.

It's a 1998 20VT NON AC with leather

The car has 67k on the clock, and the replacement engine has done around 6.5k since being fitted last year by Motormech.

The list of mods that I can think of right now are:


LE Side Skirts, Lips, colour coded valances front and rear.
Lester Grill
LE Headlights
Clear Indicator Lenses
HID's
Baileys DV26 Dump Valve
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Gtec 1 hf version
Powdercoated Cam Cover (with weld on corner but hardly noticeable)
Apexi Induction Kit
Sparco Strut Brace
Blueflame catback exhaust
Bilstein uprated front shocks,
Koni uprated rear shocks
Eibach lowering springs - 30mm
Cesam Daytona 17" Alloys with virtually brand new Goodyear Eagle F1's (Done about 1k if that on them since fitting)
Nomad Single Pillar Pod with Equus Boost Gauge
Jap PRV
Richbrook Gear Knob and Fiat OE Handbrake (blasted so matt colour rather than shiny)
Speedo Rings
Pininfarina Kick Plates as per the group buy on here.
3G 10 Grooved Discs front and rear with RedDot Fast Road Pads.
Brembo's painted Red and rear brakes also painted Red.
Alpine Stereo

Belts were changed last year with the engine replacement as were oil cooler pipes, manifold, phase sensor and a few other bits too.

The car is non AC but does have leather (which is pretty good condition I think).

The car also has a year's MOT (got tested 3 days ago). It had to get some welding done and some brake pipes replaced but other than that it passed fine.

The bad points are that the bodywork could do with a tidy up and the central locking is problematic. The blipper will lock the doors just not open them

So, next question is how much could I ask with the oil pressure issue in mind or do you think this will put off all buyers?

It's quite sad that Im considering selling up but with a wedding to plan next year I just don't think I can afford to keep running the coop. This car has been very well maintained (it also has a full service history) but I think its time for a change

shame, it looks like a beauti from the pic. least ur honest about the oil, my oil is sometimes around there at idle and has been over a year and a half with no probs.

Boo! you can't sell just cos you're getting married! 1.5 doesn't seem that bad, although in my (painful) experience, nobody wants a poorly coop

Keep it TD!

Alas Im not wanting to sell it just because of the marriage

It's just that my heart isn't really in it anymore.. And although the oil pressure is low the car is running perfectly So not strictly poorly But I do realise that this will put off buyers

perhaps I should just break it Although don't have the space/time/knowledge to do that either

Cheers Johna..

It may very well be fine but I think its the final straw. The question is how much this will affect a sale. Or will buyers run a mile?

I'll give you half a packet of strawberry frutella, a bottle of irn bru and a bottle opener for it?

I don't like frutella

Anyone got any slightly more sensible words of wisdom?!

Three choices really, have an engine rebuild to get the pressure back, sell as is and take a drop in price or dismantle.

It might be an idea to get the oil pressure checked by a garage, the pressure sensor or gauge may be telling fibs.

Cheer Joe, it's trying to figure out the required drop in price that is the problem and whether anyone would still be interested in the car

Already gone through all that here , although I had to buy the pressure tester as no garages in Aberdeen would do it! The gauge is accurate..

Ah that's right I remember you offering the pressure set for sale.

Roger mentioned the turbo, what state is your unit in?

I haven't checked it yet but it seems okay, the car was slightly smoky after a recent oil change but I put this down to overfilling of oil (couldn't have been by much though if any).

I checked the piping as the guys said this may be oily/dirty if the turbo was going but looked clean to me..

I'd drop the lower pipe off the turbo that feeds the itercooler as early signs of seal failure will show there, it takes a while for oil to make it to the throttle body as it has to be pushed through the system.

Cheers, thats what the guys have already suggested doing but I really am just fed up with it hence this post!

Your not alone with this problem but at least the engine hasn't gone pop like three other members this week

If you sell as is you'd likely be looking at £1k less, you know what people are like with low oil pressure, makes them run a mile but personally I don't find it a great problem as long is it isn't below 1.5bar when the cars up to temperature.

Bring it down on Saturday - you can leave it and I'll give you a lift home then I should manage to have a look at it for you.

Cheers Matt

I bought my Coupe with just over 1.5 bar minimum oil pressure, I changed the oil for a bit thicker stuff and it went up to 2 bar minimum, I changed the turbo for a GT28R and it went up to 2.5 bar minimum, and still going strong, so I wouldnt say it's as big an issue as you might think. A lot of people probably wont be bothered or even notice as long as it runs well.

I can understand your frustration (believe me), but you have a fantastic coop there, it'd be a pity to let it go

In the current climate the cars are just not bringing top dollar, whatever condition they're in, I've seen quite nice one's going for peanuts... although notably not as nice as yours

What oil do you put in it?

Always use Silkolene Pro S 10w-50

Hopefully its just a minor setback tartan

As for the car the one thing you have on your side is the way it looks

I'm a numpty, but FWIW when I bought my na it was doing 1.5 hot and 14k miles later it's still doing 1.5 hot. It might put off knowledgeable buyers but not prats like me, and if you otherwise want to keep it I really wouldn't worry.

Thick enough. Some Millers 15/50 might make a difference on the gauge but I really wouldn't worry about it too much.

you know what i've always stuck some "hi-performance LUCAS heavy duty oil stabilizer" in all my turbo cars from the uno turbo's to subaru and my coupe's and totally recommend it.

dont know where you could get it from where you are but i get it from "eastfield auto parts" in peterborough, bloody good stuff.

it's like slick 50 only this seems to work, it's about £15 for a ltr.

Be a real shame if you got rid of that beaut mate, abs love the styling esp the alloys, i think the problem with owning a coop is that it 'has' an oil pressure gauge, not many cars have these so therefore no paranoia sets in as there is no gauge to check to begin with. If the fact that it idles at 1.5bar worries you, i wouldnt let it as quite a few coops idle around that mark.

Well the turbo is off to Turbo Technics this week with a bit of luck while Im away. Once we get it back will see what the oil pressure looks like. Will then update this post as still currently planning on selling I think

Both of my coops always ran low pressure on silkolene, nothing wrong with either of them eitehr, they are btoh still goign strong many years later. Once I had changed to Selenia 20k or racing in the modded one, it was up to 2.5 and hardly ever went down to 2.0 let alone 1.5. At the time I do remember reading on here that a few others found this as well.

Maybe try a diff oil, I would hate for you to rebuild the engine or scrap it, if this was all it was

Jim0,

The engine is running fine, but I've just had enough really. The original point of this thread was to ask how much of an impact a lower oil pressure would have had on my car's sale price. As it is I think the turbo may have been causing it but will only be able to confirm/deny this when I get it back.

Turbo is beyond repair apparently so now on the hunt for another turbo (TT are out of refurbed ones at present.. )

The turbo has now been replaced (sourced a 2nd hand one from Iceberg). Oil Pressure is better, now showing no less than 1.5 bar. Engine still sounds great though.

Not sure what Im going to do with the car at the moment though

good news, to be fair at the moment i would just ride it out. the car is working, its holding reasonable oil pressure, and coupes just are not selling at the moment

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Back to thinking about selling again so if anyone is tempted let me know.

whats pushed you back over the edge mate?

Nothing in particular - in fact the car has been as good as gold bar the handbrake freezing on last week. Just fancy a change really.

your getting out wile the going is good then
whats the oil pressure like in this one now then mate, the new turbo hold?

3 bar + when started, goes to around 1.5 bar in traffic but always goes back up when rev's go up. Stopped worrrying about that now

what sort of price you looking for buddy? just my uncle is looking at coops at mo. .

Haven't really come up with a figure yet, guess I should. In fact I'll probably do a proper F.S post some time soon

No just no.



You are not allowed to sell sorry.

TD - you're not alone mate. I've been wondering if I should put her back to standard and get something else.

A £15k loan is JUST £310 a month over 5 years... Tuscans are £15k...

Go on then Ken - then my rx will have a playmate.

Just remember that you are also going to have to budget for 3K a year on maintenance. I thought VERY hard about a tuscan....

in my opinion anyone thinking of selling a modded coop would only be best taking it to standard and selling the mods on...
or going to lose out big time.

But also i would never sell, keep it wait till it hits classic then sell... they go for nothing and really are not worth selling.

Never gonna happen!

Mine has only been very mildly fettled with though

I'll allow you to sell it provided you get something 'interesting' as a replacement.

Can't guarantee that....perhaps after the wedding though

Nah, divorces aren't as interesting as coupés

On a more serious note I will hopefully have time/weather/opportunity to take some fresh pics this weekend so will get an ad up I think..maybe

Did you miss my last post...

No

seconded ! NO selling of coop allowed !!!

il 3rd that as the more and more i look at your sig pic tartandude the more and more i know you will regret opening your front door and not seeing that on your drive once its gone.

off topic but are your wheels wolfrace triads?? they look great!

Nope - they are Cesam Daytona's although there are others out there that look similar (Dare V2, Wolfrace etc)

Okay getting back on topic what do people think my car would be worth?

id say £3/3300 considering spec etc . . . . but as coupes are not going for there true value to sell right now would maybe have to look at accepting offers somewhere between £2700/3000 but if someone wants the car bad enough they will have to pay what you want!

Easily £3000.
Anyone offering less is a taking the pi$$.
The reason the prices are not holding is because people dont want to wait for the asking price.. Too many in a rush for the reddies.
The Coop is an old car now, and many people dont even know what a Fiat coupe is lol.
So then we try sell on here, but we know how difficult that has been lately, due to the bargains people have witnessed.

If your willing to wait you will get 3k.
But Autotrader is the best alternative, there it will stand out against traders prices/cars too!

Me too Si - and the Speed Six issues made me go down the route of Cerb V8.

Back on topic, you don't seem in a mad rush to sell TD - so ask £3k. Good luck with the sale.

Off Topic.

Cheers for the comments Guys - very helpful

WTF?!

Wedding or not, don't be a 'tool' and sell up!

Priceless to you =KEEP!

Cheers for the comments Kev/Matty - even if they weren't that helpful

< this is a new rule made by MattB , says all mods must now keep their coops for life apparently

Just to bring this backup. The car is currently getting an oil change, wheel bearing change and the brake pipe changed. Once this is done it will be going up for sale

I'll put up a proper ad once I get the car back and take some pics etc but if anyone wants any more info please get in touch. Thanks

Car should be ready for collection from the garage at close of play today. Will get it cleaned up at the weekend and take some pics for the Advert. Thinking of asking around 2800 ono..

Don't fancing a wheel-deal first?

Hadn't really thought about it to be honest.. although there are 4 virtually brand new Eagle F1's fitted

Probably be a bit too much trouble, plus I think the wheels really make the car

i really like your car!

nice one, great spec and well looked after!

Car is now for sale.

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