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Considering Selling Up #683265
22/09/2008 12:12
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After a turbulent time with my car Im considering selling up.

As some of you may know the car is currently idling at 1.5bar oil pressure and although everything seems perfectly fine (oil pressure goes right up to 3 bar when you go above 1.5/2k rpm, no noises etc) I know it will affect a sale price.

It's a 1998 20VT NON AC with leather

The car has 67k on the clock, and the replacement engine has done around 6.5k since being fitted last year by Motormech.

The list of mods that I can think of right now are:


LE Side Skirts, Lips, colour coded valances front and rear.
Lester Grill
LE Headlights
Clear Indicator Lenses
HID's
Baileys DV26 Dump Valve
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Gtec 1 hf version
Powdercoated Cam Cover (with weld on corner but hardly noticeable)
Apexi Induction Kit
Sparco Strut Brace
Blueflame catback exhaust
Bilstein uprated front shocks,
Koni uprated rear shocks
Eibach lowering springs - 30mm
Cesam Daytona 17" Alloys with virtually brand new Goodyear Eagle F1's (Done about 1k if that on them since fitting)
Nomad Single Pillar Pod with Equus Boost Gauge
Jap PRV
Richbrook Gear Knob and Fiat OE Handbrake (blasted so matt colour rather than shiny)
Speedo Rings
Pininfarina Kick Plates as per the group buy on here.
3G 10 Grooved Discs front and rear with RedDot Fast Road Pads.
Brembo's painted Red and rear brakes also painted Red.
Alpine Stereo

Belts were changed last year with the engine replacement as were oil cooler pipes, manifold, phase sensor and a few other bits too.

The car is non AC but does have leather (which is pretty good condition I think).

The car also has a year's MOT (got tested 3 days ago). It had to get some welding done and some brake pipes replaced but other than that it passed fine.

The bad points are that the bodywork could do with a tidy up and the central locking is problematic. The blipper will lock the doors just not open them

So, next question is how much could I ask with the oil pressure issue in mind or do you think this will put off all buyers?

It's quite sad that Im considering selling up but with a wedding to plan next year I just don't think I can afford to keep running the coop. This car has been very well maintained (it also has a full service history) but I think its time for a change \:\(




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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683309
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shame, it looks like a beauti from the pic. least ur honest about the oil, my oil is sometimes around there at idle and has been over a year and a half with no probs.

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: ] #683321
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Boo! you can't sell just cos you're getting married! \:D 1.5 doesn't seem that bad, although in my (painful) experience, nobody wants a poorly coop \:\(

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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: pinin_prestatyn] #683324
22/09/2008 14:02
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Alas Im not wanting to sell it just because of the marriage ;\)

It's just that my heart isn't really in it anymore.. And although the oil pressure is low the car is running perfectly So not strictly poorly \:P But I do realise that this will put off buyers \:\(

perhaps I should just break it \:\/ Although don't have the space/time/knowledge to do that either \:\(


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: ] #683557
22/09/2008 22:07
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 Originally Posted By: Johna
shame, it looks like a beauti from the pic. least ur honest about the oil, my oil is around there at idle and has been over a year and a half with no probs.


Cheers Johna..

It may very well be fine but I think its the final straw. The question is how much this will affect a sale. Or will buyers run a mile? \:\?


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683558
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I'll give you half a packet of strawberry frutella, a bottle of irn bru and a bottle opener for it?


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: mattB] #683559
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I don't like frutella \:P

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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683632
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Anyone got any slightly more sensible words of wisdom?!


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683634
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Three choices really, have an engine rebuild to get the pressure back, sell as is and take a drop in price or dismantle.

It might be an idea to get the oil pressure checked by a garage, the pressure sensor or gauge may be telling fibs.


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Countrycruising] #683636
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Cheer Joe, it's trying to figure out the required drop in price that is the problem and whether anyone would still be interested in the car


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Countrycruising] #683637
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 Originally Posted By: Countrycruising


It might be an idea to get the oil pressure checked by a garage, the pressure sensor or gauge may be telling fibs.



Already gone through all that here , although I had to buy the pressure tester as no garages in Aberdeen would do it! The gauge is accurate..


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683638
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Ah that's right I remember you offering the pressure set for sale.

Roger mentioned the turbo, what state is your unit in?

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Countrycruising] #683640
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 Originally Posted By: Countrycruising

Roger mentioned the turbo, what state is your unit in?



I haven't checked it yet but it seems okay, the car was slightly smoky after a recent oil change but I put this down to overfilling of oil (couldn't have been by much though if any).

I checked the piping as the guys said this may be oily/dirty if the turbo was going but looked clean to me..


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683651
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I'd drop the lower pipe off the turbo that feeds the itercooler as early signs of seal failure will show there, it takes a while for oil to make it to the throttle body as it has to be pushed through the system.

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 Originally Posted By: Countrycruising
I'd drop the lower pipe off the turbo that feeds the itercooler as early signs of seal failure will show there, it takes a while for oil to make it to the throttle body as it has to be pushed through the system.



Cheers, thats what the guys have already suggested doing but I really am just fed up with it hence this post!


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683658
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Your not alone with this problem but at least the engine hasn't gone pop like three other members this week \:\(

If you sell as is you'd likely be looking at £1k less, you know what people are like with low oil pressure, makes them run a mile but personally I don't find it a great problem as long is it isn't below 1.5bar when the cars up to temperature.

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Countrycruising] #683659
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Bring it down on Saturday - you can leave it and I'll give you a lift home then I should manage to have a look at it for you.


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: mattB] #683664
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 Originally Posted By: mattB
Bring it down on Saturday - you can leave it and I'll give you a lift home then I should manage to have a look at it for you.


Cheers Matt


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683681
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I bought my Coupe with just over 1.5 bar minimum oil pressure, I changed the oil for a bit thicker stuff and it went up to 2 bar minimum, I changed the turbo for a GT28R and it went up to 2.5 bar minimum, and still going strong, so I wouldnt say it's as big an issue as you might think. A lot of people probably wont be bothered or even notice as long as it runs well.

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683682
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I can understand your frustration (believe me), but you have a fantastic coop there, it'd be a pity to let it go °\(

In the current climate the cars are just not bringing top dollar, whatever condition they're in, I've seen quite nice one's going for peanuts... although notably not as nice as yours \:\)

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #683961
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What oil do you put in it?

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: ] #684141
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 Originally Posted By: roly
What oil do you put in it?


Always use Silkolene Pro S 10w-50


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tartandude] #684171
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Hopefully its just a minor setback tartan \:\)

As for the car the one thing you have on your side is the way it looks

Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: ] #684364
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I'm a numpty, but FWIW when I bought my na it was doing 1.5 hot and 14k miles later it's still doing 1.5 hot. It might put off knowledgeable buyers but not prats like me, and if you otherwise want to keep it I really wouldn't worry.

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Thick enough. Some Millers 15/50 might make a difference on the gauge but I really wouldn't worry about it too much.

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you know what i've always stuck some "hi-performance LUCAS heavy duty oil stabilizer" in all my turbo cars from the uno turbo's to subaru and my coupe's and totally recommend it.

dont know where you could get it from where you are but i get it from "eastfield auto parts" in peterborough, bloody good stuff.

it's like slick 50 only this seems to work, it's about £15 for a ltr.

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Be a real shame if you got rid of that beaut mate, abs love the styling esp the alloys, i think the problem with owning a coop is that it 'has' an oil pressure gauge, not many cars have these so therefore no paranoia sets in as there is no gauge to check to begin with. If the fact that it idles at 1.5bar worries you, i wouldnt let it as quite a few coops idle around that mark. ;\)


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Re: Considering Selling Up [Re: Tommy_Coop23] #690375
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Well the turbo is off to Turbo Technics this week with a bit of luck while Im away. Once we get it back will see what the oil pressure looks like. Will then update this post as still currently planning on selling I think \:\(


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 Originally Posted By: Tartandude
 Originally Posted By: roly
What oil do you put in it?


Always use Silkolene Pro S 10w-50


Both of my coops always ran low pressure on silkolene, nothing wrong with either of them eitehr, they are btoh still goign strong many years later. Once I had changed to Selenia 20k or racing in the modded one, it was up to 2.5 and hardly ever went down to 2.0 let alone 1.5. At the time I do remember reading on here that a few others found this as well.

Maybe try a diff oil, I would hate for you to rebuild the engine or scrap it, if this was all it was \:o

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Jim0,

The engine is running fine, but I've just had enough really. The original point of this thread was to ask how much of an impact a lower oil pressure would have had on my car's sale price. As it is I think the turbo may have been causing it but will only be able to confirm/deny this when I get it back.


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