Removing the Ashtray

Morning guys
Sorry to awaken an old subject !
Got my first coop this week and doing the console and ashtray refurb
Must of read everything on here re the subject and still having issues despite being pretty good on cars!
Basically can’t get the ashtray out 😩

Pulled the liner out the tray, two screws, two screws holding surround from inside but the ashtray and the surround won’t budge

I’ve pulled up the gaiter round the gearshift but can’t see/feel and further screws?

Any pointers greatly received 🙏🏻

The Howto section contains a mine of information gathered over the years, mostly accompanied by good pics...try the following link:

Handbrake console removal