18" Plus Style wheels

Hi guys, been a long time since I've posted here, not been driving the coop too much lately.

I'm interested in getting some alloys made to the style of the plus alloys, only in 18" size. - To give the coop a more moderne look. I've found a company that might be willing to do this - Want to charge me £30 just to give me a quote

Does anyone have a link to a decent pic of the plus alloys?

Cheers

Sal

Sounds expensive! But let us know how you get on! Oh, and you have a PM!

Gareth

You never know, maybe you will pay 30GBP now, and then get an excellent piece of art for Coupe....

I know if someone had 18" Plus wheels, I would buy them immediately!!!

i would go straight back to 18" plus wheels

Hey Sal


how good do you want to pics to be.. years ago this Plus alloy project was suggested with custom mould costing £10k

anyway see some pics

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e205/20VTP/DBA%20Disc%20Brakes/

nazo

Thanks for the posts guy, and Thanks Nazo for the links I think those pics should be sufficient for now. I think I'll have to get hold of a regular 16" Plus alloy when things get more serious.

I've decided to pay £30 for the quote, and see whats what. I got the feeling that the prices would drop dramatically if there were more people on board... Group buy??

I was given a rough gestimate for a one time deal around £1500-1700. I'm hoping it won't be that much!

It's been a while, but maybe I can brush up my 3D skills and design a 17" / 18" plus wheel...

Oh yes please!

ditto

18" pretty please...

I have looked at so many wheels in 18" range and TBH still love the uniqueness of plus alloys..

I am sure this would turn into a huge GB and that would bring the cost down quite a bit

I am in.. in any case

here's a pic of one of my old wheels till mario bought them , its a straight on shot with all the wheel showing .
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/r33-skyline/DSC00047.jpg

Hello from France,

I own a 20vt PLus for a while, and I'm looking for 18" wheels to make it more modern. But I don't find anything that fit the car perfectly. Stock wheels in 18 would be perfect !!! Please do it, I am in (and I bet I'm not the only french one...)

Ps: I oftenly look here, but i've just log, specially for this. Tell me if I need to introduce myself in a specific topic

I think the question should be: are you prepared to pay between £ 1.500 and £ 2.000 for 18 inch plus-style wheels?

Im sure we can get 30 people for group buy and should then be around £900.

nearly all custom items on the forum are much more cost then of the shelf simply because they have been custom made by forumers or others..

If we could get 20-30 sets, then I'm sure the price would drop dramatically.

I'mn still waiting to hear back from the company - Will chase them tomorrow if i haven't heard anything.

Sal

Does anyone know what the weight of a standard 16" Plus alloy is?

Reason I ask is that there may be a possibility to reduce weight at the same time (depending on costs)

Sal

9kg (about 20lbs).
Seems to be difficult to get 18" lighter (even forged one)

Mine are 19lbs

18" plus alloys would look great so long as it was only the spokes they lengthened and not the square centre section.

i agree with jimbo it would look very odd with a large centre section

absolutely..

another yayy for longer spokes

some news ?

Hi guys,

Been out the loop on this one for a bit. I've had a response from one supplier who said that if we ordered 10 sets we might get a price about £750 for a set of 18" Plus style wheels.

Still waiting for all confirmations, designs etc.

Any one interested please post below and I'll contact you once i receive all the details (hoping next week)

Sal

Just to let you know these will be manufatured in China, and shipped here - so I have to make sure that we don't get stung by customs here, and that they have all the needed saftey marks etc.

All info to follow

Safety MARKS is one thing - quality alloy is yet another. You might want to ask what alloy they are using exactly.

im interested please keep us in the loop . . .

I wonder if this would infringe the intellectual property (design right) in the wheel - i.e. be illegal.

Probably but I doubt anyone will do anything about it

I am interested as well, but want to be sure that the quality is ok!

Im definatly interested I have a 6 and love the wheels on the car just wish they were bigger.

only 18's not 17's?

I think that if you choose for 2 size's, you will double the costs of producing them.

is this thread still alive, i'm very keen for some 18" plus wheels.

i'm looking at some bigger wheels to replace my plus wheels but will hold off for a bit if these wheels actually get produced...

I already have more dutchies interested in this.

Salmaan, any strict plans?

Very much still alive. This is the information I have so far:

Safety
Safety certificate: we have passed ISO9001-2000 quality management system, the QS9000 quality system, got the ISO/TS16949 certificate, Japanese VIA certificate and Germany TUV certificate. The products also performance comply with the international standards such as JWL, and TUV and so on

Material
Aluminium GB/T 16474-1996

Prices will be about £700 if we can get enough people involved, and place deposits. I'm concerned about quality, and am actually going to order a set of wheels for my Jaguar first to see how good they are. Once I recieve them I'll post pics etc so everyone can make a decision.

I will also need to source a regular plus alloy to send them, as this will reduce the cost of the moulds, and ensure accuracy with offsets etc.

Any parties interested, please express in this thread. I'll start a new GB thread once I have concrete information and pricing. If we can get over 30 people buying sets the price may drop to £550 - which I think is a bargain. I won't be making a profit through this - just enough to cover my expenses, and I may decide to do this through one of my UK businesses, as there are going to be VAT implications importing from China.

Posting to Europe will not be an issue, so any Dutchies are more than welcome.

Let me know if you have any questions. I would think that we'd be looking at August / September for the first deliveries.

I don't think this will be an issue as they are based in China - Will get my lawyer to confirm.

Anyone in the know advise as to the quality of this alloy? They weigh about 11kg each

I'd still be interested dependant on final design and quality.good work following this through

hope i didn't sound rude in my last post, this is really interesting and as said by others about the quaity.

£700 is quite good for 18's i was going to spend that on a set of 17's

Ill open a topic on the dutch forum! Thanks for the info Salmaan

good idea,if this opens to other forums too may get some huge interest and larger discounts.

technicalities need to be sorted first mind

Given the opportunity you may want to consider changing the offset. If you go ET32 say then it is the equivalent of 10mm spacers.
Also you would probably be better off going 7.5" wide on an 18" rim as that is the minimum width required for a 225/35R18 tyre.

I definately want a set as long as below £800 and will supply 1 of my plus wheels to replicate if needed as long as I will definately get it back

Thanks for the offer, I'll probably take you up on the offer - Where abouts are you based, and would it be ok to not have the wheel for at least 1 month, maybe 2?

Sal

Thats a good point. Any other suggestions that i should mention to the designers?

Im not sure. I collected one other buyer from the dutch forum. So for now, 2 dutchies are up.

Considering the design i would try to make the specs of the rim as standard as possible. This in the means of not doing anything specific, to keep a wide audience for them. (cant find the exact suitable english words, if not clear ill rephrase)

Catterick North Yorkshire but willing to send as long as I get it back

going to have to pull out of buying these cus i need four tyres now for my car.
i may as well just buy some alloys now.
shame though

Hello from France

I think everyone should order 5 wheels. Ok it's expensive, but If you crash one wheel you won't sell the others as spare parts (who would buy 3 wheels ?)...
About design: it should be 7,5" or 8" wide for 215 or 225 tyres.
It would be great to keep original offset (40) as it won't modify the geometry of front track wheel.

cheers

I need new tyres as well before this winter, but i dont feel like this group-buy would be completed within 1-2 months. Ill just buy the wheels and wait until the current tyres are worn. These will be a collectors item!

Hi,

On the french forum too, a few persons are interesting in 18" t20+ alloys.
I posted a link to this topic and people will come here to confirm

hi,

yes in France on interested persons, I am buyer for 18 "T20 + I hope the project will succeed!

david

Am I in the minority who think the original wheels look better than the Plus wheels?

Yes

I've told the designers to make it 7.5" as was suggested by JohnS, and the aim to keep the offset

I hope to start having orders recieved by end of September.

Have we any idea of what sort of weight they will be?

I would suggest if you widen the wheel you should take half the width off the offset so the wheel centres in the same place. Therefore ET36 or ET35. It's up to you but that is best practice

I'm interested - for £550 I'm definitely interested, need new tyres in a couple of months so why not!!

I am going to add this thread to my favs, so when the price, weight, style and other things gets finalised; i will be interested to purchase

No your not eldinho

i think 20vt rims in 18" would look awesome

Really bad example but you get general look, the centre would have to be smaller so the the spokes are made longer for 18"

Oh No You Didn't

I also prefer standard 20VT wheels but like everyone else wish they were just a little bit bigger so I don't have to suffer from "wheel envy"

I may be interested in this too but need info regarding weight, etc.

any update on this???

maybe a nice christmas present for myself.

Do we have a choice of colour as im not a big fan of silver i prefer the LE anthracite colour or Samsites colour

Definitely not. I prefer the normal to the Plus

I could be interested in a set of 18 wheels.

no no no no no no no

no

plus wheels are the dogs danglies, it's official....

Any news on this Salmaan?

^^bump^^

Has this died ?

id buy a set of std 20vt wheels in 18s in a heartbeat
plus wheels id consider but think the std 20vt ones would look seriously mean.

Think hes ignoring the thread now,hes been online and posted but sure this is dead unless someone else wants to take this on

Hello from Switzerland

i don't know a wheel which does better match than the original one. i have now my 3th coupe and have invested hours/days to find nice wheels. There is no better one, than the original, but not in 16!

It's a pity that this idea to production does not go on.
I AM DEFINITELY IN!
But i'm not capable to realize. If theres is someone who can do that, he will get a fee of 300 EURO from me.
But i want a quality-solution and not to weighty.
So please check my offer till 30.01.2010.

thanks all and sorry for my english...

Best and serious regards from Switzerland

Question

There is a picture mentioned on this topic with 18 on a black coupe.

Is this a fake or what...?

Photoshoped i think.


I contacted this place in November and got this price back

HANGZHOU HEXUN INDUSTRY CO.LTD
9floor, No. 58, Pinghai Road, Shangcheng District, Hangzhou,Zhejiang,China 310006 Tel: 0086-571-87087533 Fax:0086-571-87087599 Email: exporting@hexunco.com Web site: www.hexunco.com
price list (USD)
SIZE S MS HS/HB HS/MF/ML HB/ML/MF VC
18x8.0/18x8.5 56.20 57.6 59 60.6 79.8
18x9.0/18x9.5 59.00 61.3 63.5 65 81.95

REMARK:
1) Price term: FOB Ningbo or Shanghai in USD.
2) Leading time:30--45days after receive formal order.
3) Payment term: 30% down payment by T/T in advance with formal order, the balance 70% should be T/T against the copy of B/L or L/C at sight.
4) Cap cost: the above unit price including the standard cap cost, but big plastic cap should be add US$1-1.5 ，big aluminum cap should be add US$2-2.5.
5) Chrome & 4 x 4 wheels will be negotiated according to the model.
6) MOQ: 80pcs based on one ET.
7) For the heavier wheels, the price will be adjusted accordingly.
8) The above price is based on the aluminum ingot cost which's US$1765--US$2205, the price will be adjusted when the aluminum ingot cost changed.
9)The price will be subject to change by Chinese currency revalue against US dollar.

That's a very garbled quote you've managed to get yourself there Simon.

FYI Alloy is currently at market value to cash buyer for $1995/tonne - Mid priced, on the rise (price hike is taking away a lot of our profit!)


Personally not interested in these wheels, but if there is still interest from others I will get our Sales guy at work to source some contacts. (I'm sure he owes me a favour somewhere along the line )

He's done a lot of work getting our jobs out to China to save on overheads (Wonder why we made so many redundancies eh?) and we have some good sand and investment casting foundry contacts out there.

Cool

Don't rim stock or motorsport wheels cast in the uk? I remember someone telling me if you wanted a wheel made they could do it

I did know a guy at rimstock they are right by wednesbury in the West Midlands.I will pop in.If i remember right they said if they could get 10 sets sold they would produce a wheel.Dont quote me on that.How many would like the plus wheel and how many the 20vt?Will have a go.Not promising anything.lol.

KMR - This post is old, and to be honest, I think 10 sets of 18" Plus wheels could be sold through the forum, definately.
If I was you, I would just ask the place you are on about based on 10 sets of Plus style in 18" to see if they can actually do it or not, and if so for how much.
If you have any joy, id start a new thread mate.

Good luck, keep us posted.

It's a long time talking about this intersting topic.

Time to take decision!

Let's do it or leave it definitively.

I'm still strong interested but, if this production-project will not go croncretely on to the 15. of February i will look for other wheels.

Kayjey did it with a GTA-Wheel, why is it such difficult for a Plus Wheel...?

Thank you and best regards

FABIO

Rimstock are actually within ten mins ive me.If people want i will make contact and just see where its leads.

After contacting
http://www.conceptwheeldesign.com/ yesterday i recieved an email back

Hi Reuben,
I received your e mail enquiry and could you give me a call to discuss
in more detail please
Regards
Colin Pegler
Group Sales Director
0121 524 3003

Im no good with details etc wheel fitments etc so feel free to take this on guys.

Someone look into it and call this number please.
Im like reuben, no good with all that.