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583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster

Posted By: Anonymous

583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:26

It all started several months back when i was at Fleas and Barbz showed up.
He threw the keys to his 2.4 monster at me and i took it for a spin.
I was so impressed with this that not only did i consider doing the same myself but we spoke about a way of further improving such a tried and tested engine.

Yes the stories are true,during the winter months namely December i cut my holidays short and decided that i would make a few days to tidy things up under the bonnet.

During that time i also decided to nip down to London and pick up a never before tried engine.
Whilst we had a nice cup of lemonade in Castle de Barbz he told me what he had done and how he had built it and all his secrets with the head and bottom end.

These were as follows :-

(Classified Classified Classified Classified)


3 weeks later LE119 emerges from the workshops with the first 2.5 20vt in Britain.

Running in the engine went very well and it was clear it was difficult to hold back the power.

I then decided to strengthen the gearbox.
Namely a differential i had designed and built.
This was no easy task fitting as there was lots of issues i ran into but nevertheless its now in and working well.

Off to Flea for some mapping on what is currently a breakthrough in the coupe for the highest yet spec engine from Barbz,.

I will let him report on how he found the car but lets just say he called Barbz and said he was worried about my safety as im apparently a lunatic .

Drove the car today in anger for the first time at 1.5 bar and my word it is blisteringly quick.

The difference between 2.0 and the 2.4/5 is night and day.

The off boost torque is similar to driving a V6 off boost and even on the motorway at 1200 rpm theres no need to shift out of 6th gear.
The progression from off boost torque to power and boost is very linear and smooth whilst giving you one hell of a kick in the seat.

115 bhp per cylinder,very drivable and great on fuel.

The car is so quick that your almost waiting for the gearbox or driveshafts to let go.

My old setup was quick,but this is beyond dangerous even giving me the shakes in a straight line
The most unbelievable thing is that the power is tractable after 1st gear.

The fueling leaned off at higher boost with the intank pump so Flea fitted a inline pump as well but unfortunately we didnt get chance to sling it on the rollers for some ''Pub figures'' as he calls them.

This now is the end of the line for me,tuning goes no further for this car other than little tweaks here and there.
The setup is brilliant,thanks again to Barbz for all the help on the phone and for getting hold of alot of parts i needed for the conversion.
The quality of the service he provides and the time he gives you is second to non.
Nothings too much trouble,and he makes sure you get exactly what you ask for and more. thumb

Also to Flea for the mapping,and Crazylegs for the help all those nights spannering,even if you did drop my front bumper on the floor scratching the new paint. rolleyes
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:35

Guessing on 98ron fuel? Well done just dont crash it.
Look forward to seeing this overtaking the lambos at spa
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:35

Fantastic results John. Also congrats too Barbz and Flea.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:40

That was you fat head you turned and hit it with your wallet so you are bound to hit it. And it was on the roof of your car on that cloth. Any way its nice to see her all good and after all them hours and blisters do not bend her!!! Am popping over in the week dude as i what a pass ride in her, oh please.
Posted By: Begbie

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:42

Nice one John. Took a little longer for the phone call from Flea then laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:42

You got any pics up of your nice new engine bay as it looks so clean and tidy.. tongue
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:43

shocked

Paul, you better get that wedding arranged soon or you'll be looking for a new best man laugh

Great results guys, this is truly astounding and shows that the little old Fiat Coupé is far from being an obsolete piece of junk love
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:52

Yes paul you best as you know that jbt will use all 557bhp as much as possible at spa etc....
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:55

Flea says he can get 600 bhp and 500 ibsft on racefuel map laugh laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 21:58

laugh might have too get the stag do in before Spa then?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 22:01

do it soon as possible realy paul driving
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 22:39

Just like to say well JBT and well done Barbzs what a car the coupes can be with you chaps ere.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 22:41

Sheep get the hell off your iphone and back onto the pc laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 22:45

Lol i phones are great laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 22:48

Congrats dude. I've been following this from the beginning and knew it would make some serious power!
Posted By: MCMike

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 22:49

Amazing, this is going to be some mean Coupe - looking forward to seeing her vanish towards the horizon soon !

must be an absolute monster laugh
Posted By: Hovedan

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 23:00

At the current prices, I'll give you £2k and your bus fare home if you deliver it to me?

Seriously, nice work from all here. Can't wait to see it fly at Spa smile

JBT - Can I join the queue for a drive?!?!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 11/03/2012 23:23

Congrats! laugh

Just proves again that the 5 cyl platform is one of the best engines around. cool

It'll be nice to get some feedback at 1.8bar. wink.

Well done Flea.
Posted By: technics

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 05:43

Ah, finally all done then!
Nice results and great work everyone!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 06:33

Well done all - let's not see any gearbox cogs outside East Midlands Airport this Saturday.... wink
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 11:24

Yonkers. Another mental coupe smile

Well done to Flea, Barbz and JBT
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 12:45

Well done JBT & Barbz!!
and not forgetting Flea! smile
Posted By: Nigel

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 12:48

Good grief - 550+ bhp shocked - must be truly mental on the road, but at the same time it will be easy to drive at 5/10 with the extra capacity

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.

Will be interesting to see how it performs at Curborough in June

Well done for persevering with it - when my finances are a little more stable, I might come and talk to you....
Posted By: Gunzi

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 12:54

Great to see people still pushing the boundaries with the Coupe. Excellent results and congratuations to all involved smile
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 16:33

question remains.

Where do we go next with the coupe?

2L engines seem to be at the limit and going further than ever before..

Now the 2.4L engines are going EVEN further than people expected.

JohnS made 616bhp on pump fuel...

how long (if we keep going this way) will it be till we see the 1st 600bhp 20vt on pump fuel??
Posted By: Countrycruising

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 17:13

Great work, looking forward to seeing this at Spa.
Posted By: Begbie

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 17:14

JohnS was 616 on race fuel Marco smile
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 19:56

Originally Posted By: Nigel
Good grief - 550+ bhp shocked - must be truly mental on the road, like the driver!! wink

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.


John, what is happening with the 4WD??
Posted By: Flea

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 20:18

Well there is no stopping John, he wanted 500 horses and now we find that a further 83 have bolted from the stable and tucked themselves into his five pot monster! Yes, 500 + 83 equals 583bhp, that was the result from today's dyno session up John's way (just to reiterate, this was not on my dyno!). I think he put a few Porsche noses out of joint, nobody else was even close to the 583bhp & 492lbs/ft @ 1.9bar, all on Tesco fuel smile

It's a truly crazy ride, enough to get the adrenaline coursing through my veins for a good few hours. He's been hankering after the top spot for a while, but I duly crown JBT as having the most powerful and fastest Coupe in this land!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 21:43

Will get it down to you after Spa to see how it does on your rollers.

Was speaking to Barbz today and hes come up with a way to beat the 600bhp laugh On tesco fuel.
this was at 1.95 bar btw ooo
Posted By: seenoff

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 22:54

Well done JBT! smile
Posted By: stuart81

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 12/03/2012 23:48

Truly awesome! Well done to all involved.
Posted By: Kayjey

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 00:04

Wow. I'm away to work for one single day and then this comes on. Congratulations on the record J! And Barbz and Flea. Looks like qi'll need to save up a bit for a year or 10.
Posted By: Darlo_Nick

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 08:45

you are all mental.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 08:47

Fantastic achievement ! tuning that must have taken a lot of skill, hours & cups of tea !! laugh

what sort of MPG do you get at those BHP levels ? laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 09:13

thats phenominal! well done to all involved.

John, you need to change your sig now wink

Ninja
Posted By: MarioCirillo

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 09:18

Originally Posted By: Darlo_Nick
you are all mental.


LOL! laugh
Posted By: Hovedan

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 09:42

583bhp? That's impossible. The tuning shop in Grand Turismo 5 told me
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 09:55

Ninja,i will change my sig when its on Fleas rollers as its only 20bhp more on another rollers than Fleas.
Would be nice to see some minus 10 degrees then take it on the rollers and see what it gets as its been between 15-19 degrees ambient on the rollers so far.

The car is simply too much on the road,yes you can part throttle but when you full throttle concentration is required.
The power is always there with the 2.5 if you need it.
And i havent even driven it on the full boost setting yet in anger where Flea tells me its breathtaking..
I will save that for the track.

Yes,its now too powerful and it scares me.Or should i say it gives me the Sheikh's. laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 10:09

Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo

Yes,its now too powerful and it scares me.Or should i say it gives me the Sheikh's. laugh


rofl Great comment - might be the first genuinely funny thing you've ever said laugh
Posted By: Nigel

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 10:12

Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
Yes,its now too powerful and it scares me.Or should i say it gives me the Sheikh's. laugh


I've just been discovered browsing the forum in works time by laughing out loud at that comment - priceless laugh
Posted By: Taffy20vt

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 10:53

Excellent results cool
Posted By: Sedicivalvole

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 10:54

rofl
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 16:09

A whole new level of insanity... crazy

The combination of the legend with the wizard, can only result in a nobel prize for coop enhancement. laugh

Hearty congrats to the developer, tuner et al and the man with sackfuls of cash..you all need to join the super BHP club.

Now there I was running around in my scooby, whilst the coop was having more upgrades, unknowing that coop is going "beyond the black rainbow"..

JBT maybe you feels like this at 1.9bar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ertVYn750

WELL DONE CHAPS!!
Posted By: mayzon

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 19:04

WoW thats huge power smile

Good work the 3 Amigos
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 19:13

The torque figure is impressive, there really is no substitute for CC's eh :-)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 19:18

Originally Posted By: tricky
The torque figure is impressive, there really is no substitute for CC's eh :-)

I agree its the torque i like the look of......500lbft lick
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 19:42

Originally Posted By: Nazo
A whole new level of insanity... crazy

The combination of the legend with the wizard, can only result in a nobel prize for coop enhancement. laugh

Hearty congrats to the developer, tuner et al and the man with sackfuls of cash..you all need to join the super BHP club.

Now there I was running around in my scooby, whilst the coop was having more upgrades, unknowing that coop is going "beyond the black rainbow"..

JBT maybe you feels like this at 1.9bar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ertVYn750

WELL DONE CHAPS!!





Erm so if theres a Wizard and a Legend does that mean im the one in between with the now very empty wallet laugh


Nigel,i hope you didnt get the sack for laughing.

I have now started to appreciate the low end torque today and its nice to take your time.
Idles perfectly at 700 rpm ooo with 900cc injectors....
Very happy.
Posted By: JohnS

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 13/03/2012 19:46

great result cool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 14/03/2012 11:02

well done John, you must be delighted to have finally cracked it after all the work, be good to see the dyno graphs, what turbo are you using
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 14/03/2012 20:09

Just a tiny little Gt30 Doug,
Dyno will be posted in Fleas section soon.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 14/03/2012 21:56

Whats the red thing stuck to your bumper ?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 14/03/2012 21:58

Originally Posted By: tricky
Whats the red thing stuck to your bumper ?


That's a nylon tow strap... for when his car breaks down. laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 14/03/2012 23:24

Its the coops tongue, saying cant catch me..nah na na nahh na
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 15/03/2012 08:44

laugh yes its for when the car breaks down.Doesnt look as harsh as a big oxidized hook scratching the bumper.

Usually its tooked away but that day it was sticking its tongue out.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 15/03/2012 17:44

Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
Just a tiny little Gt30


lol, everythings relative
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 16/03/2012 09:17

part 2....
Posted By: plasticomnium

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 17/03/2012 09:31

JBT, what are the exact specs to make it 2.5 instead of 2.4 ??

Might have been blinded by the impressive figures but couldn't find anything yet..

Thanks..

Jochen
Posted By: Stichl

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 18/03/2012 13:50

Congratulation to this wonderful result.
Could I also know from you, what manifold and what exhaust size you have chosen??
Thank you
Juergen
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 23/03/2012 20:57

Originally Posted By: Nigel

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.



That'll never happen as none of you will be able to fit a wardrobe in the boot laugh laugh laugh
Posted By: Per

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 24/03/2012 01:04

Originally Posted By: BlackBeast
Originally Posted By: Nigel

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.



That'll never happen as none of you will be able to fit a wardrobe in the boot laugh laugh laugh

Luckily the Coupe will never look like a coffin or feel completely numb! smile

/ The Swede
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster - 24/03/2012 09:56

Originally Posted By: BlackBeast
Originally Posted By: Nigel

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.



That'll never happen as none of you will be able to fit a wardrobe in the boot laugh laugh laugh


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