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what mod next guys, answers on a postcard

Posted By: Anonymous

what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 01:43

bought a coop, will be using it for track.

it's got a gtec chip i believe, seems quite fast. I don't have any other mods. oh apart from drilled box.

what would be the next bhp gaining mods next?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 02:28

16v or 20v
Posted By: stan

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 06:15

Let's move this to the right section.......... \:\)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 10:25

20vt
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 10:28

A free flowing exhaust would be a good move!

Also don't forget handling and braking mods, you will probably get a lot more enjoyment out of these than an extra 20bhp!

Also budget for a new clutch if its quite old! \:\)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 11:48

What boost does the car run?

What is your target and how much do you want to spend?

If you are using the car on track I would run 1.1 bar of boost and spend on brakes, suspension, strut + subframe braces, polybushes, and tyres before going for power. Your car will be more fun and will also be faster.
Posted By: JohnS

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 12:10

its free to get more BHP per tonne by dumping the interior or as much of it as you can bare
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 20:31

I'm not sure how far I want to go mate, I understand i need suspension upgrades, i've got the brakes covered at moment.

i have a gtec chip(came with it) and nothing else, not even a boost gauge. I'd be happy running a good deal of boost.

I was thinking about getting myself a full exhaust and perhaps a manifold then waiting for a good deal on a good turbo.

I've just bought a house so i'm slightly limited at moment. Depending on the level of fun i have at knockhill a week on saturday will likely determine just how far i'm going to go.

I took my first coop to track, it had novitec chip, it went pretty well. I had no complaints about the handling, especially is the events i go to are the baby races where they get the cones out for the lads. not a lot got passed me apart from empty cossies that would come out of nowhere, noone was taking me on the bends although I smoothed the sidewalls of two brand new michelins.

also, what's the best road tyres, i find michelin a bit crap. (i know slicks are best but i'm not that into it yet)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 20:36

Toyo T1R's and Goodyear Eagle F1's are popular choices, some people also use Falkens! \:\)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 20:39

how much cheaper are the Falkens to the Toyo's?
and are they rated as any good?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 20:46

T1R's are very cheap from camskill anyway, not sure what the price of Falkens is. Personally I would go for the T1R's for quality and cost. IMO of course ;\)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 21:14

yeah got them on now.
just wonderin when it s time to replace them if the falkens are any good?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 22:31

I'd recommend a set of Toyo R888s m8. Road legal and found them very good at KH.

Agree with John to strip the interior and then I'd do suspension, get a strut brace etc.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 22:47

Go for a set of R888's or Hancook RS2 tyres - they have stiffer sidewalls for the track stuff. The Hancooks are ok on the road as they have water channels, though they are a track tyre.

Dont go over 1.1 bar of boost on your setup on track unless you dont mind nukeing an engine.

There is nothing wrong with the standard manifold until you are knocking on the door of 500bhp.

For more power you are going to need to get a FMIC before bolting on a big turbo and getting the car mapped. A full exhaust on the standard turbo may well result in the seals going, so I would uprate the cooling, turbo, and exhaust all in one go, and then get the car mapped with a boost increase (how much depends on the turbo, but IMO dont go over 1.4 bar max on the standard internals and 1.2 bar redline - again less boost if you are running the car on a track - 1.1 or 1.2 bar)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 22:49

sorry my tyre suggestions were for road use
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 22:49

i think he was looking at the ported manifold Jamie has for sale!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 22:51

Both the tyres I have suggested are road legal - dont last long though!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 05/06/2008 22:52

wasn't having a go, just that I totally forgot about him using the car for track! thats why I suggested T1R's \:\)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 06/06/2008 00:54

i'll be using it on the road, i've got a van for work, this is just a wee toy.

I'll need to see if i get the bug at knockhill because it's a scarey thought getting rid of all that lovely black leather.

i'll look into those tyres, again, thanks for the suggestions.

as far as getting exhaust, turbo and fmic and remap, would we be talking about 2 grand? what's that gonna get me? 300bhp?

btw what's the ideal tyre pressure on the track, what did you have at knockhill fergus?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 06/06/2008 09:17

If you run the Hancook's or R888's then they have a stiffersidewall so you run normal road pressures, otherwise a few psi more to stiffen up the tyre a bit.

Pro Alloy FMIC = £400 - fitting yourself
Exhaust = £300
Turbo = £600-£1000
Fuel pump + Wiring mod = £80
Live Map = £500
Boost Gauge = £40
PRV = £25 (or electronic boost controller = £200)

That will get you 300bhp on a GTIR turbo at 1.3 bar, but I would also budget for a new clutch.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 06/06/2008 22:26

You the old sweep from EK btw?

No point with a custom map if running a gtir. Gtec will be more or less spot on \:\)

If your on a budget, no need for FMIC either as long as you keep boost sensible.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 09/06/2008 21:38

yeah mate, i mind we met ages ago in ek, you still in ek?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 10/06/2008 22:40

Cambuslang now m8 \:\)

Coupe is off the road the now though until I get the new head fitted.

Got a pair of R888s on spare alloys if you wanna try them sometime? Are 225s though.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 11/06/2008 00:47

Btw, i have a set for sale if interested aswell (unless fergie is selling as dont wanna step on his toes)

Ross
Posted By: Freddan72

Re: what mod next guys, answers on a postcard - 11/06/2008 09:03

 Originally Posted By: Fergie
You the old sweep from EK btw?

No point with a custom map if running a gtir. Gtec will be more or less spot on \:\)

If your on a budget, no need for FMIC either as long as you keep boost sensible.
Why not a custom map if you have a GTiR?
Highwayman did one at PT and got 320 hp from his setup. I now his setup includes a lot more than just a GTiR turbo upgrade, but why not a remap? It is the most sensible thing to do if you have the cash and wants the engine to run as efficient as possible.
Gtec is not a spot on solution as you say. Some people here got 10.5 AFR with Gtec, other got 12.5 AFR. Pretty big difference if you ask me. Check the car at a RR and after that decide if you need a custom map or not.
If you don´t have the cash, don´t tune your engine. Buy track tyres and better brake pads. After that just enjoy the ride \:\)
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