GTA clutch VS Stock clutch : wich is better?

Hi guys

I've just bought a complete clutch kit of ALFA 147 GTA for my 20V turbo. I bought it because you said me it is plug'n'play on our 20VT.

But someone tell me the 20VT clutch is more resistant than the GTA clutch He tells me that the Fiat clutch can support more torque!

I just want you to put me at rest. Are we wrong when we say that the GTA clutch is better than the Fiat clutch?

I hope i haven't bought it for nothing

They are the same cover & release bearing but the GTA friction disc is bigger. Thats all.

Ok TurboJ

So if the friction disc of the GTA is bigger it will accept more torque than the OE clutch

I don't understand why the guy i meet told me the Fiat is better! Maybe a jealous person

The covers/release bearing are the same part number.
More surface area = less slippage = more torque

GTA should be a bit better - but not a world of difference.

As long as it holds your level of power then either would be fine.

They are also the same price, so take your pick IMO....

Thanks guys

In France the price of the GTA is smaller than the price of the Fiat clutch

So : better price and better grip! That's a good deal

Happy to know i've made the good choice

Sorry to hijack the thread but will the GTA clutch work on all 20VT's, or is it just 5 speed or just 6 speed cars etc...

Cheers, Simon.

It all depends of the clamping force of the cover.
If i'm not mistaking a GTA disc accepts less torque than a standard disc but wears slower.

That's exactly what the guy i met told me

Hum... where is the truth

Who cares - with your mods either will do the job no probs!

I care... because of the mod i'm going to do in the next weeks

Big Hybrid T28 is coming from England (stock size for the turbine, trim 64 for the compressor... i know this is experimental... i hope it will be fine ;))

FMIC is ready to be on my coop too

I've heard that standard clutch can support 320/330 hp! Hope that's right because i want this power

For clutches, it is measured in torque so bhp figure don't matter. Even with a hybrid turbo, the standard and GTA clutches will do the job sufficiently well. Youre probably only gonna get 250-270 lb/ft of torque with that sort of mods anyway.

Fine

Thanks again

It will fit all 20vt models and the 16vt as well.

Thanks again Gaz.

Yes increased clamping force increases torque rating but so does the surface area of the friction disc since both covers are the same only the surface area matters. The GTA disc is bigger than the coupe one.

I would go for a Helix organic clutch, don't think GTA significantly better, whereas Helix will give you a big safety margin

....but it cost just a tiny bit more than a gta clutch....

Do it once, do it right - I fried 3 clutches before I saw sense and went for a Helix.

Minipit, pourquoi tu vas si loin pour trouver une réponse?
Tu sais que delta il est partout


p.s. sorry boys, but me and minipit know eachother, altough he diden't realise before


I've tried all of them and my conslusion i make is:
- stock clutch: 400Nm of peak torque ok but fast wear rate.
- Walkers organic : 400Nm max torque as well but lasts longer
- Helix: really good stuff but haven't been able to finsih one. It does accepts 400Nm sustained torque for sure.


Nobody ever metions skimming the flywheel is primordial on a new clutch.

C'est toi! Trop fort

What do you mean by skimming?

You "skim" a small amount of the surface of the flywheel off, to ensure it's totally flat before fitting the new clutch

No, but use this link instead as these are better

https://clutch-specialists.co.uk/collections/fiat/coupe

Autodoc part number 826319

yup I agree -- I run @400bhp , helix organic clutch been in the car for years , ok not doing a high mileage , but well up for the job

/insert usual statement

Clutches are rated for torque, not BHP