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2.4 Conversion - How much, who can?

Posted By: Anonymous

2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 06:25

I've been thinking about this for a while, so as it says above really, what sort of money am I looking at to get it sorted and who could do it? I'm not an engine man, doing this myself would be too much.

I don't want huge power, just looking for reliable, low stress power using as much standard stuff as possible.

Any comments welcome.

Gareth
Posted By: TurboNick

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 06:30

id say at least 9-11k for a proper job. if your not looking for power id recommend keeping it standard or just going for 300+ hp with a gt28r and it will still be reliable and very driveable there are sum amazing results with that turbo now and it will be alot cheaper.
Posted By: Nigel

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 07:55

Originally Posted By: Spee
I don't want huge power, just looking for reliable, low stress power using as much standard stuff as possible.Gareth


If you don't want huge power, you don't need a 2.4 conversion

As has already been said, decent power (ie 300-350) is easily and cheaply achievable with a 2 litre block, running standard internals. The mods are retricted to bolt-on goodies (turbo, intercooler, filter & intake, injectors, exhaust and of course, some live mapping). All of this can be done for a couple of grand or so.

a 2.4 would be better, of this there is no doubt. It would spool earlier, probably give more torque and would definitely be better off-boost. However, it will cost five times as much.

If your definition of "huge power" is 500+, then a 2.4 is a good way of going about it. Anything less than 400 bhp as your target means staying with a 2.0 unless you have an irrational need to empty a bank account.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 11:28

It would spool earlier, probably give more torque and would definitely be better off-boost.

Thats the bit I like Nigel!

I can't understand why this would cost so much but I'll trust the judgement of you guys of course.

I colleague of mine had a fully rebuilt V6 shoe horned into his MR2, along with a supercharger and associated mods for £5000, all work carried out by a respected Toyota specialist, which is why I'm a little shocked at the prices suggested!

The idea behind my thinking was to achieve a modest power increase, but a more significant torque increase, but using a standard turbo on standardish boost, hopefully giving me a less stressed engine and better day to day drivability.

Never mind, sounds like a no go to me.

Gareth
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 20:38

I can't understand why you'd think it would be so cheap.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 22:05

my advice is stay well clear of the 2.4 unless you want to customise a lot of other things...

clutch, cooling system ( oil & water ), exhaust, ECU, fuelling system, suspension ( odd to say that, but 400+ hp is no good on stock crap ), intercooler, gearbox, brakes, brakes, brakes, did I say brakes ! laugh

I only took the plunge cos my old engine spun a shell, else I wouldn't have bothered.

True, off boost performance is better, but you have to spend a lot for this benefit.


Cost versus returns smile
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 22:13

id like to try the opposite,20vt coupe engine to replace a 2.4 in an stilo arbarth. Really like the stilo and with 220bhp standard i deffo have one.Unsure if its any easier either
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 05/10/2009 22:18

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 06/10/2009 05:20

Check this thread by JohnS as it gives a little bit of insight on the 2.4 conversion costs.

I've thought about the 2.4 conversion route before proceeding with my plan (3 years back) and I would say that the engine by itself would cost around £6,000.

As for who can, I'm sure others will comment on here. I know that Barbz can still do it but he is in UAE now.

I also say that you should go for the 2.4 conversion if you are ready for it.

Good luck mate smile
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 06/10/2009 07:04

Originally Posted By: Spee


I colleague of mine had a fully rebuilt V6 shoe horned into his MR2, along with a supercharger and associated mods for £5000, all work carried out by a respected Toyota specialist, which is why I'm a little shocked at the prices suggested!




That's stupidly cheap!
Posted By: JohnS

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 06/10/2009 07:28

I would build one but it isn't my day job. If you just want more torque and better driveability you could go with a standard head that will massively cut down the overall cost.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 26/10/2009 22:43

Originally Posted By: JohnS
I would build one but it isn't my day job. If you just want more torque and better driveability you could go with a standard head that will massively cut down the overall cost.


if your serious, could you put one in a stilo and how much?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 26/10/2009 23:43

i saw an offer few weeks ago 2,4l Kit with h beam rods, shorter pistons and Stilo crankshaft with bearings for about 2600 gbp
Posted By: Freddan72

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 27/10/2009 08:19

Spee: what setup do you have today?
Posted By: JohnS

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? - 27/10/2009 16:54

Originally Posted By: swinisskill
Originally Posted By: JohnS
I would build one but it isn't my day job. If you just want more torque and better driveability you could go with a standard head that will massively cut down the overall cost.


if your serious, could you put one in a stilo and how much?


I could build the engine but not do the rest of the conversion. It has been done in a stilo abarth already I believe. Problem is the engine has to come out because unless it is very low mileage there is ovality in the top of thebores
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