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GTV Rear Subframe

Posted By: JohnS

GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 16:00

I thought I'd post up a little more info on the Alfa GTV rear subframe.
There's been talk on the forum previously of the possibility of fitting it to the coupe, but no-one has really looked at it in any detail.

The benefit is that it has far more advanced rear suspension with double wishbones and twin lower links etc. as well as being fully adjustable.

Well having obtained one it looks like it will fit to the coupe as the mounting points are in the same place. It does present some problems though -

- The GTV fuel tank is different and would be required to do the conversion as it sits integrally on the subframe, You might even need to just go with a tyre well fuel cell to be honest as I'm not sure about the GTV's spare wheel well being in exactly the same place. (not checked)

- The exhaust path would probably have to be modified.

- You would need a bespoke rear undertray

- The GTV has a wider track by 25mm a side (51mm total)

The springs and shock mounts are integral to the subframe(i.e. they do not go into the chasis) as with the coupe.

The antiroll bar on the rear is uprated compared to the coupe standard unit

If anyone is serious about making their coupe handle, then I think it's got to be better than the coupes setup just because it is adjustable, let alone the fact that it will reduce unwanted movements. But there's definitely more to it than bolting on.
Posted By: Begbie

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 16:12

Could have told you that Matt (from S.A) told me this in a PM on the old forum before it died. I believe he has this fitted on his coupe already
Posted By: Easy

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 16:13

What sort of handling did Matt achieve Begbie? Worth the cost?
Posted By: Begbie

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 16:17

Dont know, he never said, but he also told me a cheap twin clutch solution which i never saved either

But as JohnS has mentioned already, you can see the cost is going to be quite high (fuel tank, suspension, exhaust modifications)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 18:05

John the springs and shock on the coupe subframe are not connected to the body either they are all contained on the subframe. I have a friend who has done this on his tipo. Had to cut the wheel well out.

rich
Posted By: JohnS

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 23:22

Dunno if any of the cars (tipo, coupe,GTV or dedra for that matter) have the same spare wheel well to be honest. Does the Tipo have a space-saver or full spare?
Posted By: Begbie

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 23:28

Wheel well
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 10/05/2006 23:30

Tempra and Dedra have a wheel well too.
Posted By: JohnS

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 11/05/2006 01:35

sorry, I mean is the wheel well the same size and in the same position on all these cars (which is why I mention the size of the spare wheel)
Posted By: Begbie

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 11/05/2006 02:04

Yeah pretty spot on in the same places. I'm 99% sure that the teapot and the coupe use the same mounting points for the fuel tank, so would say that the spare wheel well is pretty much the same too
Posted By: paddy

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 11/05/2006 03:01

How come the GTV has so much less boot space, and rear seat space - I thought this was releated to the rear suspension setup taking up a lot more room?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 11/05/2006 19:26

I've seen a 20VT with GTV rear frame, so it's definitely possible.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 25/04/2015 11:53

Some photos from Italy.

Sorry but no guide and no other informations cry

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Posted By: Jimbo

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 25/04/2015 13:32

Pictures havent loaded for me Gimmo?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 27/04/2015 09:52

Holey thread revival!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 27/04/2015 11:41

Sorry, I don't know how to upload photos from Dropbox!

Please, download the photos and upload them to some photo hosting service, the link for the download is the following

Multilink 1

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Multilink 3

Multilink 4

Now can you see them?
Posted By: Trappy

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 27/04/2015 12:33

It'd be good to see the finished article. I for one would be very interested in upgrading to this set up!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 27/04/2015 12:55

Trappy, can you see the photos now?

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Ps: I saw in your signature that you have a short-shifter! How to make it???
Posted By: Trappy

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 27/04/2015 15:20

I can see the photos. I could before by following the links.

What I meant is finished as in the exhaust fitted etc. At the moment, it looks a little... short smile

I bought my shortshift off of Taffy20vT years ago. Unfortunately, he's now moved on...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 27/04/2015 15:33

I am sorry, but no idea about the exhaust, the guys didn't make any other photo.

Maybe the original Alfa exhaust can be modified and fitted?
The chassis is the same, so..
Posted By: Stichl

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 03/05/2015 10:37

Nice mod - but...
Next Problem - where to mount the fuel tank...
Posted By: plasticomnium

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 07/05/2015 13:19

Are we talking about the Alfa GTV 916 rear subframe, i.e. as pic below ??

[img]http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/haalfagtv1fnygeu8rdx.jpg[/img]
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: GTV Rear Subframe - 07/05/2015 13:29

Yes, it is.

I fixed the link

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