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Zero claim affects premium?

Posted By: whatmoretyres

Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 15:54

Hi

I had a small accident where a pedestrian stepped out in front of me and got herself knocked down. She was a schoolgirl not looking and listening to her Ipod. She was ok, just a bit shocked and the car had a small depression on the bonnet, which you can't see cos it's bluuu. The point is, the childs family are not claiming cos it was her fault, but I have to declare a £0 claim with the insurance company which has put my premium up £100+ with admiral. Rung around a couple of others, and it's the same story
Anybody any ideas with a sympathetic insurance co who can look at the situation relistically? I have 15 years no claims, and they want £550 fully comp!

(I have tried the ones on the list here, but no joy)
TY in advance for your suggestions
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 18:11

The Admiral group are bug*ers for increasing premiums due to non-fault accidents...justification is that their underwriters believe that if you have been involved in a non-fault incident you are statistically more likely to make a fault claim...
I had a row with Elephant about this...problem is they were still the cheapest by far at the time so I didn't really have a leg to stand on
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 18:21

thats right...they said they load it at an average claim cost....which was £800! How is that fair?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 18:26

Well I guess it's not fair

Are Admiral still cheaper than Noel Dazely and Greenlight?
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 18:35

Haven't been able to get one from ND - they were backing up their software when I rang!

Greenlight were higher, said they couldn't get below £600

Will give ND another go today, fingers crossed!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 19:18

Try HIC, Liverpool Victoria and Adrian Flux too
Posted By: S1MMA

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 23/08/2006 19:31

Quote:

justification is that their underwriters believe that if you have been involved in a non-fault incident you are statistically more likely to make a fault claim...





it's actually Actuaries that conduct the statistical analysis to determine how x y and z situation should be priced (e.g. people with 1 claim (fault/non-fault) in the last 3 years, as opposed to people with no history - how much more on average will they cost the company).

In some lines of insurance (talking mass market lines though) Senior (or technical) underwriters then go away and review the information and activate certain recommendations in the insurance models depending on what they want to do. In other lines the actuaries have more power and what they say goes.

If it's proved that people with 1 non-fault or zero claim will cost the insurer more £££ in a given amount of time, then it's fair that they should pay more. Underwriters should manage the pool of risks to the best of their ability, and that means charging people "fair" prices (backed up by actuarial data). If a certain area of the country has less claims, they pay less (we all believe this is fair, although it's more difficult to accept insurance pricing when you get a price rise, same with everyone unfortunately - even an underwriter that understands the models gets annoyed when he has to pay more - human nature).
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 24/08/2006 00:09

Thanks for explaining a bit more about it S, I've not had a claim like this so it is helpful to know a bit of the reasoning behind it. Guess I'm frustrated because of the old spending £100+ every month on maintance on the coupe!
Just the manifold,brakes,service,insurance,puncture in a new tyre to sort now!

PS, couldn't beat £545 from admiral with any of the others, might try and knock them down (no pun intended) a bit more tho!

Thanks vicster & S1mma
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 24/08/2006 02:37

Try Bell Direct (an admiral company) vs Admiral
worked for me minus £100+ (without the claim ).
Next year will try Admiral vs Bell
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 24/08/2006 02:43

Sorry if i read your post correctly you already tryed Bell. Please forgive stupidity
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 24/08/2006 03:17

Bell wouldn't quote me for some reason, I think it's cos I'm already with admiral and they don't want to undercut them?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 27/08/2006 21:11

I may just be being ignorant but why in this case do you have to tell the insurance company at all?
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 29/08/2006 02:40

long story, but basically if you hit a child, the parents have until the kid is 18 to sue you (which is 5 years from now) then the kid has another 3 years if they want to take you to court. Not my fault, but it's because of the "no win, no fee" stuff on telly apparently. If i don't have it straight, it's my word against their's, but if you get it all down properly with witnesses and everything, you have minimal exposure

apparently!
Posted By: AndrewR

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 29/08/2006 12:22

If you didn't inform your insurers of the accident then you'd have broken the terms of your contract with them and they would have a good case to persue you for any money that they had to pay out.

Not a good idea when there could be a future personal injury claim running to hundreds of thousands.
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 29/08/2006 16:40

hehe, that as well of course! It never crossed my mind to not report it!
Posted By: whatmoretyres

Re: Zero claim affects premium? - 04/09/2006 00:37

Update : Chris Knott insurance managed to get the premium down to £500, so am going to go with that. Just 4 tyres and a manifold on the list now!...
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