New Alfa Romeo Giulia

I rather like the idea of this:
500bhp

Oh yes - been keeping tabs on the new Alfas for a few years now.

Its the only marque my other half gets excited about, our next new family car will hopefully be one.

Luuuuurvley

Please let it be gooood!
Article says it will not use the GTA name, yet that's what it has on the number plate???

Front end = fail!

I am a big Alfa fan but that looks shocking, the only plus point is the giant tele-dials. Fiat would be better doing an entry level Maserati to compete with M / AMG / RS spec German cars. It could easily turn into an RZ / SZ style epic fail.

I think that is an entry level Maserati effectively - the V6 biturbo is a Maserati engine isn't it?

Get out and never come back, philistine!

Well, just to say my twopence worth for no other reason than for the hell of it.....This reminds me of an old Rover 75.

Just saying.

That's lovely, I feel an argument with the Mrs coming on!

The new generation of RWD alfas better be bloody good is all I can say. I love Alfa just like any other petrolhead, but seriously, the Alfa "range" is a joke at the moment.. possibly the worst in the brand's history? Apart from the ultra rare 4C all they offer is a couple of shopping cars. Sad state of affairs.

I had rather fancied the mazda/alfa roadster - but the rumour seems to be that it won't be an alfa after all and might end up as a fiat.

You hit the nail on the head there!

Nobody would never think by looking at the current Alfa range that its a petrol head's marque.

The engine is great, the body styling is poor, not even swapping the gash wheels with telephone dials would save it!

Fiat would still be better plugging it as a mas, no one buys expensive alfas. Look at the 166.....

The range is way too small, but there's nothing wrong with the Giulietta. I had a MiTo before and enjoyed that too .

I can think of a couple of things.

1. No proper hot version (V6, manual gearbox etc)
2. The front end light cluster is just

Well, each to their own. We all know that good cars don't have to have a V6 . Manual box is still available - just, and mine has 170bhp which is fine for shopping. I like the lights too

I like the rear lights, bootiful. But an Alfa needs those lovely three in a row front clusters.

I was eyeing up the new QV, but it doesn't come with a proper gear box

Got the Giulietta as a MiTo replacement because the MiTo now only has the TCT box. Opinions are divided on that transmission - I haven't tried it, but it looks as though all cars are heading that way for better or worse. The Giulietta is nicer to drive than the MiTo though - better ride & steering - so v happy with it.

If it looks like that I'd be interested as an upgrade from our Giulietta. Not sure id get the 500bhp version though, a bit pricey for me!

Having driven both I agree that the Giulietta is nicer than the MiTo, although the 155 bhp engine variant is peppy!

Frankly I love the Giulietta, if you want that sized hatch your choices are mostly boring motors, a ubiquitous German car, Focus, Astra etc. The Giulietta looks stunning in comparison and turns heads, so it was a no brainer!

Sorry, we've hijacked this into a Giulietta thread. But the Giulietta really is a good car - certainly the most complete Alfa I've had, and I've had Alfas for 30 years. Don't know why it gets a lukewarm press generally - it's the first Alfa where you never need to say, 'Yes but it's Italian' as an excuse. Still, the Coupe is similarly unrecognised - it was and still is a fantastic car, and better than the Alfa GTV competitor, which is why it was discontinued

Can I point to where it says 'this is how it could look'? This is just a very lousy rendering made by an intern or something.

These are my favorite "imaginings" of the new Guila so far:

Side view = Maserati QP.

Which is no bad thing.

Nice!

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/23/alfa-romeo-giulia-leaks/#image-1

Looks good

Live launch

http://www.autoedizione.com/presentation-alfa-romeo-giulia-live-coverage/

oooh Likey!.........especially with the 3.0-litre twin-turbocharged V6 with 503bhp developed by Ferrari (rumoured to be for the 'new Dino')........

Bit 156 gtaesk but on steroids. Like it.

There's a YouTube video - sounds good. Lots of carbon bits etc - likely to be expensive.

Jesus wept! Why make it look like a BMW?
Isn't styling the one thing that Alfa does better than anyone?

Because they plan to sell 400,000 units a year - the current Alfisti who appreciate the classic points of Alfa-ness just isn't a big enough market, hence the more standard features.

Seeing all the rubbish on Facebook (Euro Alfa forums) , I like the look of the new Guilia.

It does look a little like a BMW, but Audis even more so, and it is distinctive.

I see several comparing it to a 159, which I don't get at all. Styling on the 159/Brera/Spider was amazing, and they were all good to drive, but GM platform, front wheel drive, overweight... The Guila is going to be something different.

I am liking it!!

Yes it's quite nice but I can honestly say I prefer my Coupe!

510 horsepower!
In Italy the owners of the Giulia Qv Will pay FIVE THOUSAND EUROS to the state because of property taxes!
And circa Two thousand For the plates!

No wagon though. I'm afraid my Giulia won't be towed by a Giulia.

I like the concept version, but as always on an alpha nowhere to put the number plate

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/08/new-alfa-romeo-giulia-rumored-to-offer.html

This quite nice too

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-8C/281697284647?

It looks like it drove into a wall.

....people have been banned for that on the Alfaowner forums... pet hate!

Just wait till AutoDelta breath on it, then this will be a masterclass like they did with the 147, 156 and 159. Forget turbo's, love twin superchargers.

FWD was povety spec 159's. The powerful ones had Q4. Which is 4WD. 60/40 Bias.

Trouble is, 4WD only made them heavier. I'm so glad Alfa have finally realised (remembered) that weight is the enemy. 4WD is a nonsense too. A road-going car doesn't really need it unless you're a farmer. What they should do with the hi-spec cars (which I believe they're doing with various CF bits) is make them lighter. These should be the modern equivalents of the Giulia GTAs (rather than the 147/156 GTAs which made no link to the "A") and be stripped down to the bone

Have to agree with the 4WD system adding weight and being the enemy.

Right back to the 33 Permanent 4, it was a solution to remedy the evils of an inadequate chassis and torque steer from the 16v engine, and made the car less nice to drive in most circumstances.

Moving on to slightly newer tech, having driven most variations of Alfa 155 and currently owning a Q4 and V6, the additional weight is really noticeable on the Q4. It is a lovely car to drive on fast A roads, but the V6 is far nimbler in most everyday circumstances.

I haven't driven a 159 Q4, but owned 2.4 JTDM, which handled well but already felt weighty. I'd hardly call it poverty spec given its engine and interior, but can only imagine the Q4 version would be a lovely car to drive but heavier still, with little day to day benefit from 4WD on everyday roads.

Yep the q4 added about 60kg. And was critised in many reviews for not working well enough to overcome the weight compromise.

And when Prodrive breathed on the V6 Brera to improve it, pretty much all they did was ditch the 4WD.

........don't forget the Eibachs and Billies