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2005 Golf Plus

Posted By: barnacle

2005 Golf Plus - 16/03/2019 19:20

So, I've just driven my late father's Golf down from Skye -- in some terrible weather -- and in many ways it's not as bad as I thought it might be. I even managed to overtake a couple of lorries on the A87 and A82, to the surprise of all concerned. Shame about the dead LEDs in the dash panel which meant I could see only the rev counter in the dark and had to do mental arithmetic to work out how fast I was going on the motorways! Did Fort William to Hemel on somewhat under a tank of diesel.

This will -- when I get the paperwork from the DVLA -- be on the appropriate section, but for now I'm hoping one of the fine people here might have an idea about its value? One owner, 52k miles on a 55 plate, most of the hand control hardware has been removed, and I've currently got the instrument pack out to have a look at the LEDs on Monday. It's a 1.9 turbo diesel, and I don't think the rear seats have ever been sat on (spent its life with the seats flat and a wheelchair and ancillary stuff in the back). New Avon tyres on the back -- I don't think it was driven except back from the garage -- and Toyos with about 7mm remaining on the front.

Any thoughts what I should be hoping for?
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 16/03/2019 19:49

A good way to get the lowest figure is stick the reg into WeBuyAnyCar - and then add 10-20% for a more realistic cash price.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 16/03/2019 20:57

Yeah, they were saying £1800, but I'm not sure how much I trust them. Seems overpriced. But hey, that's why I'm asking.

Interesting weather you've had in Scotland the past week smile - driven up and back twice in ten days...
Posted By: jimboy

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 17/03/2019 07:08

Best of luck with the car Neil & yes it's rained & rained here for ages. Still onwards & upwards.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 17/03/2019 08:09

Heh: just worked it out: I've averaged 270 miles a day for the last ten days smile
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 17/03/2019 14:15

Hi neil,

I was looking at one of these with 100k on and was offered it for £1k.. £1500-£1800 would seem fair. It does have the bullet proof 1.9 pd engine so should have a demand.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 17/03/2019 15:36

It'll be better once I've fixed the instrument lights smile
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 20/03/2019 22:36

Put a picture up. Like to see this.. Be interested on you thoughts for this as a mile muncher
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 22/03/2019 17:58

Well, took the binnacle out, saw nothing obvious to say why the LEDs didn't work, put it back, they still didn't work (though they did briefly work so I was able to turn off the thing that goes 'bing!' at 57mph) and discovered that starting the car without the binnacle (a) won't let the engine run and (b) sets the airbag light. I'll have a look with Torque tomorrow and see if I can turn it off again (if I can find the connector!)

Not sure about how I feel about it as a mile muncher. I don't like VAG cars in general, and in this case I was driving through snowstorms, trying to make sure Anita kept up with me in the (quicker) Bravo, and feeling rather in the dumps as I'd spent the week trying to sort out my father's estate and funeral. But it got there in one piece, still had some fuel left after 500 miles (though not as much as the Bravo had - did another 120 miles in that before filling up). It's torquey rather than voomy and it feels as if it doesn't want to accelerate past seventy. And bing, bing, bing, bloody bing all the way across the highlands!

I've had a painful crick in my neck for a week, but I don't know if that's related or not...
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 22/03/2019 19:44

Sorry to hear about your father Neil. Condolences and thoughts are with you.

Thanks for your thoughts on the golf also.
Posted By: pinin_prestatyn

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 23/03/2019 00:21

Unsure if it will help things, but you can borrow my Carista OBD2 dongle and log-in to the app if you need to read any faults or reset them? Condolences too.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 23/03/2019 20:45

Thanks Pinin and Ruben. A neighbour has access to a factory reader to reset the airbag. For what it's worth, Torque doesn't see the airbag light error, but (good news) doesn't see any errors from the engine.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 07/04/2019 16:34

Well, the golf is now with Sugerbear, of this very parish, and my mother is a little better off.

Thanks Rob!
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/04/2019 11:16

no one needs a speedo in the dark
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/04/2019 11:46

Just read this Neil, my condolences and good wishes for your ma.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/04/2019 18:49

Thanks Simon.
Posted By: Barmybob

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/04/2019 22:21

Oh dear sorry to hear the news, condolences from us too.

I have an official Ross Tech VAG COM if you need anything on the Golf re-set or checked.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 11/04/2019 09:04

Cheers Bob. We haven't seen you in too long - time for a Cambridge meet before I retire?
Posted By: magooagain

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 11/04/2019 11:10

Sorry to read about this Neil please accept our condolences. Horrible time for you.
Posted By: Barmybob

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 11/04/2019 13:00

Originally Posted by barnacle
- time for a Cambridge meet before I retire?


This sounds like a nice idea.
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 25/06/2019 12:32

The Golf Plus has grown on me, I can see the point of it. It's a pumped up version of the regular gold. Bigger boot, wider backseats. What's not to like. It now plies it trade up and down the M11.

Dodgy lights on the dashboard console fixed (£11), headlights polished and sealed (£20), airfix paint to touch up the worn switches (£5), Bilt hamber (£10) lavishly applied to the rusty bits. New Stereo fitted (Free from my son). Child labour to clean the car (also free). Hand controls but also removed by me. I also had the cambelt changed and had the auto box oil changed which was a bit more expensive but they shouldn't need doing for a couple of years at least.

Next month I will see if it passes its MOT smile



Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 25/06/2019 18:13

I thought I got all the hand controls out... good call on the dodgy lights; presumably you can see the info display now?

Neil

oh, wait, there was that pivot stub that didn't want to let go over the accelerator...
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 26/06/2019 12:28

I bought a working console on fleabay then took it apart.

The display console electronics are made up of two parts, the front display part and the back control module that is keyed to the car (That holds the mileage). They are connected by a connector block, so just too the dodgy one off, put the fleabay display part back onto the existing control module and it worked. I did expect the car to start up with warning lights all over the place but it worked and I can now see the speedo in the dark, which is nice.

The LCD display (MFD) in the middle of the dash works when started up but then it slowly fads over time, made worse when it's hot (a common problem on the VW forums) but I can live with that.

Should works on all Mk5 Golfs.

Garage wanted £50 to remove the controls but then I checked and I found it was a couple of bolts that linked up to the steering column and the bolt on the foot pedal. 10 minutes of spannering and swearing trying to get the bar out and it was done.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 26/06/2019 16:55

Cool! You'll not be wanting your money back then laugh
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 18/05/2020 14:55

The Golf Plus (the smurf as she is known in the works car park) has now reached the heady heights of 85k miles and is still running perfectly and it's currently sat doing about 100 miles a month because I only need it to visit my son,

The 1.9TDI is bullet proof but it did have a bit of an issue with the EGR being blocked but that improved the fuel economy (which they all suffer from around the 70k mile mark) so just took off the vacuum pipe for a bit until I could fit a straight through pipe and have it mapped out. Apart from that it has only cost me the servicing.

Also has a six month extension on the MOT now so won't need doing until 2021.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 20/05/2020 20:15

My mother will be pleased to know wink
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 13/08/2020 15:09

And another year on the ticket after the government backtracked on the MOT until August. Rusty front wings treated again, headlights lightly sanded and polished.

Rust will kill this car, the engine is bullet proof. The EGR and assorted other nasty bits and pieces were removed and luckily it doesn't have a DPF. ECU "amended" to ignore the EGR which is wonderful.

I am now undecided if I want to keep it or go back to the VW UP that my son was using and has now returned to me.
Posted By: darthstinky

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 13/08/2020 20:28

Originally Posted by MeanRedSpider
A good way to get the lowest figure is stick the reg into WeBuyAnyCar - and then add 10-20% for a more realistic cash price.


Second that. Alternate is to look at the traders pricing for a comparable car on eBay....

Ds
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 29/08/2020 19:22

Its going to be up for sale in the next month as I am going back to my VW UP fo a bit then I may get a Seat Cupra Estate or a VW Tiguan.

Since buying it I have added about 35k miles and spent about £1200 on various bits, cam belt, gearbox oil/filter, new front tyres, straight through EGR pipe (and ditched all the EGR gubbins and changed the ECU). it doesn't have a DPF which is also nice.

Still has rusty arches which I patch up every year (news ones painted are £200 for a pair off eBay) and some minor rust on one of the doors. Needs the CV joint changing which came up on the MOT.

Full service history, 12 months MOT, magical 1.9 TDI engine, climate control has been degassed, just turned 90,000 miles and it's a 2005. Just took it to Devon for a camping holiday and it didn't miss a beat. It's automatic and everything works.

What do you reckon on the price?

(I saw a Mk5 Golf 2005 with 160k miles for £1,650 but its bodywork looked better),
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/02/2022 15:59

The Golf Plus has now sadly passed into the "Trade" and I have a new toy.

I was looking for an estate. then came across something a bit bigger .. So I now have a 2011 XC90. It's like driving a comfy sofa and I love it.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/02/2022 17:01

At least the Golf had a very good innings.
My daughter has an XC90 and absolutely loves it (she uses it to tow horse boxes). Although she's less keen on the repair costs!
Posted By: barnacle

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 10/02/2022 20:10

I don't think it did so bad smile

Neil
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 20/02/2022 13:17

The golf was still going strong, overall I did about 50k miles over three years and ended up spending the best part of £2000 on it in bits and pieces so it wasn't cost free (they never are). But that still works out at less than £100 per month. Never let me down either and it went all over the country without a hitch.

It was coming up to its next DSG service and cambelt /water pump change in the next 10k miles - tried selling to my son/nephew but a golf plus in Smurf blue just isn't that cool apparently.

The servicing/maintenance costs of the XC90 will be much higher I expect. I have already had a but of a shock as there was a bill for 800 in the service folder, but that was a full service, two news tyres and a cam belt and water pump change.

Had a quick clean up of the interior (cream leather interior not normally my thing but it's growing on me), and didn't realise just how grubby the leather was, tried some cleaner from Halfords which made absolutely no difference,, ten quid down the drain thanks very much, then read a few reviews online and found that Dodo Juice intensive leather cleaner gets good reviews. Its' amazing stuff, managed to get the leather back to its original colour (almost), added some Gliptone G11 conditioners and hopefully the leather will soften up from it's current "Elephant skin" feel to something a bit more youthful.

Attached picture xc90dirty.jpeg
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 20/02/2022 17:03

Woah! That is some dirty leather right there!
My daughter's woes were related to the bodywork; her partner hit a deer and the bodyshop quote was eye-watering!
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 21/02/2022 13:16

Those seats were how it came from the dealer, absolutely filthy. Amazed they hadn't given a valet and wasn't expecting the amount of crud to come out of the leather.

Drivers seat needs attention as the bolster has been crushed, the bolster sorting on the drivers side and the leather really needs dyeing as it's quite faded.
Posted By: sugerbear

Re: 2005 Golf Plus - 29/01/2023 14:15

It’s been nearly a year of ownership.

Total cost of ownership so far..

Two new tyres (just went for the cheapest as Pirelli were £200 each).
New rear brake pads
Full service

So cost this year has been £500 which is actually less than the 1.9 golf! Failed its MOT on a side light (£1).

MPG is about 35-40mph. Maybe 25mpg around town.
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