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Lighting for garage with no mains power

Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 12:26

The house we have just bought has a lock-up garage in a separate block, under what I believe is rather optimistically called a "coach-house".

Unfortunately, there is no power to the garage and no way of running it from our house. The only real nuisance is not having lighting in there, so what are the best battery-operated, non-torch solutions to provide sufficient light to find things in a dark garage at night?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 12:58

Car headlights?
Posted By: Nigel

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 13:13

Jim - I have a shed with the same issue

I got hold of some secondhand domestic 12v halogen lights, dumped the mains transformer and hooked up an old car battery - they work just fine (3 x 50W, so plenty of brightness)

if you wanted to ensure that the battery is always topped up, hook up a small solar charger

Edit - uses MR16 lamps - search for "MR16 holder" on ebay - very cheap
Posted By: bockers

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 13:38

These are good.
http://www.ledhut.co.uk/led-flood-security-lights/solar-flood-light-pir-80-lumens.html
I have one as a porch light and another for the wood store in the garden.
For some longer lasting brighter light these are also good:-
http://www.ledhut.co.uk/led-flood-securi...cool-white.html

They are also great for lighting up areas in the garden when having a BBQ or similar.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 14:04

Thanks gents. As the garage is essentially in someone else's house, I can't mount any solar panels, so it will need to be a car battery!

I'll check the various options out - I might even have an old halogen lamp around somewhere...
Posted By: bockers

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 14:17

The second on my links is a battery option and a lot safer and more convenient than a car battery solution.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 14:40

I hadn't clicked on that, bockers, so thanks for the clarification. Ideally I'd prefer something more diffused than a spotlight-type, but then again, I'm not mad about fluorescent light either...
Posted By: bockers

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 16:02

I know what you mean, these are more flood than spot but do need to be placed carefully.
Posted By: oxfordSteve

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 16:53

As it is under someone else's house, I suggest lining the walls with flaming torches.....
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 17:00

Jim - go with LED if you're running a battery solution - much lower power usage for equivalent lumens than halogen.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 17:11

Thanks Steve. How's the new job as Game of Thrones lighting tec' going?

MRS - I found a good LED solution on Pistonheads, after someone asked the exact same question:

Shed and garage lighting
Posted By: robcoupe20vt

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 17:53

What you need is a car battery ,300 watt inverter and one of these 4 tube fluorescent lights . I bought 12 of these lights off ebay three weeks ago for 99p . The light is fantastic i have put two in my garage will put another 5 up . Just put two of these in a mates garage he has no electricity and he is well happy . He had one on the other day working on his car for over 4 hours no problem

Inverter http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-300w-Inver...=item1c52dec82f

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Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2015 18:10

Blimey, Rob, that looks like quite a system! I like the recycled aspect. I'm spoiled for choice...
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/02/2016 20:42

Hi Jim,

Did you get anywhere with this.

We have an offer in on a house with a detached double garage without power.

My idea would be a leisure battery hooked up to a solar charger on the roof. You could bring in the leisure battery to charge.
Connected to a inverter for 240v power.

Then grab some 4-5 ft flourescent fittings, free cycle? Retrofit led tubes which offer Low power usage with high output at about 23w per 5ft tube.

Less than 100w for four led 5ft strip lights.
Posted By: magooagain

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/02/2016 22:19

Is it to far away to run power to it then Reub?
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/02/2016 22:57

Unfortunately not, it will be across a shared right of way.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/02/2016 23:06

Originally Posted By: coupedummy
Unfortunately not, it will be across a shared right of way.


My instinct tells me that might cramp your style, Reuben? Can you lay suitable cable underneath?
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/02/2016 23:27

Basically it's the only detached house in a grove of 6.
Theres a driveway infront of the house feeding a further two houses.

The owner obtained the land and had a double garage planted it there so approximately 30 feet from the house across the drive.

Too much hassle to deal with that just for lighting and basic tools.
That setup should cost no-more than £120 quid.

See if I get the house first. More news tommorow..
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 22/02/2016 06:54

Good luck with the house, Reuben! I haven't done any more about the lighting on our garage for several reasons, but whatever solution I do go with won't have solar as we can't put anything on the exterior of the building. Currently just use a head torch...
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 22/02/2016 09:55

Cheers Jim.

Understood. But could charge the leisure battery in the house and take it out?
100w of lighting on a 110mah battery should run for a substantial amount of time without failing.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 22/02/2016 10:05

Sounds like a decent solution for you. Our garage is through our garden gate and down a long flight of steps, so less fun to lug a battery that far!
The main reason for inactivity is that the garage has been taken over by the storage of a vast amount of crap, so no need to light it! My dream is to clear it all out (including stepson major's moped) and cosset the coupe inside. Not holding my breath!
Posted By: Cooperman

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 22/02/2016 21:03

Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell
Good luck with the house, Reuben! I haven't done any more about the lighting on our garage for several reasons, but whatever solution I do go with won't have solar as we can't put anything on the exterior of the building. Currently just use a head torch...

Is there a wall or spot in the garden you could position a panel on a pole or bracket and run a cable to the battery in the garage?
Posted By: magooagain

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 22/02/2016 22:48

I can't be reading this thread right as I can't see why an extension lead won't work.
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 23/02/2016 00:18

Will find out if we get the house tommorow hopefully. An extension won't really be feasible as there i would trail across the shared drive.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 23/02/2016 14:32

Originally Posted By: magooagain
I can't be reading this thread right as I can't see why an extension lead won't work.


Wouldn't work for us, either, as the garage is in the middle of a row, with someone else's house above. The steps down to it are a public footpath, too.
Posted By: Robotrish

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 23/02/2016 18:10

Something like this may be useful, not only for your purpose but as back up emergency lighting and plenty of other uses.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-20W-30W-Po...-/371556762559?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 07:42

how about
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Generator-/121900621381?hash=item1c61d7de45:g:Km0AAOSwQYZWyH5A
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 07:54

Silence is what's needed ...... Though not too sure about the power capabilities of this particular one ... CLICK
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 10:39

Well looks like I'm going to be needed power when the house move goes through. Only lighting typically.
So for me, a leisure battery,hooked up to a solar panel and charge controller feeding 4x 12v 10w led floodlights in each corner.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 11:44

News on the house? Is that a yes?!
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 20:53

Yup, offer was accepted on the new house. So in a few months i shall be in my new pad!
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Heres a pic of my new home for the coupe and cinq! Sorry for the hijack Jim
Posted By: Countrycruising

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 20:57

Originally Posted By: coupedummy
Yup, offer was accepted on the new house. So in a few months i shall be in my new pad!
click to enlarge

Heres a pic of my new home for the coupe and cinq! Sorry for the hijack Jim


I like it Reuben, sod what the house looks like, here's my new garage laugh thumb
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 21:01

Great news. Could you not run a cable under the path with the agreement of the neighbours?
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 21:08

Na, from that drive edge probably another 20-25 feet to the porch.
To much effort for a bit of light.I will run a lead if need some for power tools i think.

Also the water main is under there somewhere
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 24/02/2016 21:40

click to enlarge


His and hers laugh

Great news! Looks like you'll get a deal of natural light as it is smile
Posted By: Cooperman

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 25/02/2016 18:51

Who cares what the house looks like when you have a double garage smile
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 26/02/2016 00:09

It was high on the list of priorities to be honest. Long way to go until we're in their though.

Back to the thread.. Make some space Jim and get some use of the garage for the coupe!

I will be ordered something like this,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/40W-Mono-Solar-Kit-Panels-Controller-Cables-Complete-Setup-/161980077847?hash=item25b6c3d717:g:DywAAOSwKtVWw4~u

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Energy-saving-10W-12DC-Waterproof-LED-Flood-Light-Lamp-Work-light-Spotlight-IP65-/251950506455?hash=item3aa96ba1d7:g:QvwAAOSwBahVSxZv

http://www.alpha-batteries.co.uk/125-ah-xplorer-leisure-battery/?gclid=CPL2ubySlMsCFfEV0wodlLIKnQ

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Leisure-Battery-Box-Strap-Caravan-Camper-Motorhome-Medium-75-85ah-Battery-/390881862115?hash=item5b025fe1e3:g:cpMAAOxyRhBSqvUI
Posted By: Clintos

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 09/03/2016 06:02

How about a running an invertor from a car battery. I bought a 1000Watt one from Maplin and although it cost me around 100 quid its come in handy too (one time when the electric was off all day due to works).

Other option is a small generator
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Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 19/07/2016 11:06

Ok project solar should be rolling soon.
Saw an offer code at eurocarparts the ither night. I managed to pick up a new lesuire battery for just £45.
Bought 5x 12v 10w led floodlights for £13.
Found some disused 2 core cable for lighting circuits.
Ordered some battery clamps.

What i need to get...
10 way junction box- or possibly use and old klick lighting junction box knocking around at work.
Light switch and back box
Solar panel and controller.
Hoping i can have most of this done for £120.

I also will likely put a 12v car charging port in somewhere. Can plug and inverter in then for little bits of mains power.

Posted By: Possum

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 20/07/2016 08:35

What about visiting your local caravan accessory shop or ships chandlery and get something like this:- https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=123&item=84450&intAbsolutePage=1

Power from battery to the fused panel and then wiring straight to your individual lights. Just need the controls for the solar side of things.
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 20/07/2016 23:03

I was thinking that but with my only needing a lighting circuit and one 12v cigarette socket it's not really worth it.

I am going to build a small unit with switches utilising 3x 12v switches, 12v socket fitting into an adaptable box with each circuits fused locally at the battery.

Tested my 10w 12v lights this evening. Very impressed. I have 5 in total but feel I may only need 2-4. There tiny but spread the light well. Only concern I may have is shadowing.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/07/2016 06:33

Paint the garage walls, and ideally floor, white.
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 21/07/2016 17:38

Defiantly on the list of things to do Neil.
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 04/08/2016 22:00

Holy thread hijack...
So my led floods were ok but not great due to shadows and not dispersing light like I wanted.

So next I went to is led light strip. Fantastic stuff...
Just one strip has provided enough light from a battery source to make the garage fully usable at night.
I have ordered a further two .

Here's a quick video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTvBCPbpQTs
Posted By: Dazvr6

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2016 16:54

Crikey that a lot brighter than I expected.
With the other 2 fitted you will need to wear shades! cool
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 05/08/2016 21:28

They are great. Still lots to do and tidy up.

Jim did you get sorted? This could help?
I have these attached to a small battery bank/jump starter.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/DBPOWER-8000mAh...arter&psc=1

Charges by usb. Unsure how long it will last in full but so far so good with testing.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 06/08/2016 14:18

I'm glad this thread helped out! I've abandoned my plans, largely because the garage only gets used for storage and never for cars or anything we need in the dark. But I'm still considering it for MrsC's studio (shed) in the garden...
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: Lighting for garage with no mains power - 08/08/2016 14:29

http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0181-rechargeable-led-work-light-5w-12-240v/1047d

If your still after something portable and rechargeable, I've picked up one of these for work.
fab work light and comes with car and mains charger. Good for all sorts of uses.
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