Sant pod Sat 4th july 2009

is any one up for a little coupe session at the pod on the 4th?

ive been wanting to run my car for a while but never got round to getting my but down there!

so it would be even better if we could ge a few coupes down there and make a day of it!

http://www.santapod.co.uk/calendar.php

any one else coming?

im up 4 it was there last wk end for jap show .. well if i can fix my probs before leighton maps on the 2nd. Whats a good time for a stage 1 coupe 260 bhp ish? my previous cars pulsar was 13.1/ type ra was 12.5/ sunny gti 14.6. Have seen some really quick coupes up there prob some of u lot looks such fun fwd turbo.. really cant wait to blow m8 s in their scoobs in a fiat as its rwyb i will have the chance hopefully if not some of you higher powered guys can cant wait to see their faces ha ha i now hate jap turbo crap....

I'll be there.

i ran 13.9 at 249.6 bhp stage 1 its hard to get into 13s cuz its soooo hard to launch at pod, my coupes at a bodyshop at the minute so im not sure if I will come but maybe, looking forward to see marco's time.
Marco is your coupe more than 250.4 yet?

With 260bhp, anything in the 13's is a good time, but its ALL in the launch, which is far more difficult than you would think.

There is lots of traction at Santa Pod, but a turbo FWD car will still break traction easily, so you have to get the launch just right - 3,000 - 4,000rpm, lift the clutch quite hard, don't let the revs bog down, but don't let the revs flare up either, moderate the throttle to keep traction and once you've got past the first 100 feet or so, its simply flat out all the way to the line. If you're brave, you'll still be in third gear, but very close to the redline

Nigel your like a mind reader!!!
i was going to say ive been messing around with remp to launch at and found being a little brutal dont really hurt to much and at bang on 3500rpm you can get a 90% perfect launch!

found 4000rpm was a strain on my neck!!

Boostmecoupeup, havent done nothing to the car since the rr session so she is still at 250.4
looking forward to seeing every one there!

i have one question for the pro's...
what tyre pressure do you run on the 1/4mile?

It depends a lot on the make of tyre (some have much softer sidewalls)

On my last runs at Santa Pod, I was down to about 22psi - this hurts the terminal speed, but it helps the launch

wow 22psi!!!

i drive around on 32psi so i think i will try different psi settings and see what works the best!

must remind my self to bring a pump lol

terminal speed dont really bother me, mess the launch up and you have ruined a run! (imo)

i did one run on 15 psi found 20 on the front is best for me but iv got low pros on 18s

i would of been up for this but its a girl i've been seeing's birthday.

if i'm lucky and get out of it i will bring the marea, be interesting to compare her to the coupes!

Ry

yer bring it down or... it you got the minerals, tell the girl your taking to a "nice day out" and bring her to the pod lol

only messing mate!

be nice to see the marea, never seen the full conversation done!

sorry marco, looks like theres no getting out of this one for me, will have to bring the marea next time

Ry

its cool mate!

there are loads of events coming soon so there will be another time!

have a nice day mate!

were coming mate

Nice one!!

think the weather is not going to hold out for us tho....

bad times...

I'm planning to be there too.

looking forward to seeing what a 400bhp coupe will do on the 1/4 mile!!

Hope it holds out will be emmense if its like today

i think i will be there to see what my coupe can do

looks like it will be a good turn out for the italian power!!

so we will have the following BHP coupes there

mine - 250.4 bhp
Squid - 400 and some thing BHP
nath20vt - 260ish BHP
westcoupe -???bhp
eldinho - ???bhp

possible my mate chis with a standard 20vt will be coming also!

any other takers???

I'm a possible

got you in there eldinho!

any one else that is a possible can they also put down there BHP as well!

might help get a bigger turn out!

and gives us all some thing more to look forward to!!

mine - 250.4 bhp
Squid - 400 and some thing BHP
nath20vt - 260ish BHP
westcoupe -418bhp
eldinho - 429bhp

hmmm this looks good...

between all of us we have 1757bhp between us...

and if my mate chris turns us it should be 1977bhp...

oooo it looks like its going to be a good day at the pod!

the problem I have is trying to find one of my mates to come with me and help out with the petrol. otherwise its £60 fuel just getting there and back!

arr man that sucks.

does any one know if sant pod do group/ club discounts?

don't forget me, i should be in the 400 club too

mine - 250.4 bhp
Squid - 400 and some thing BHP
nath20vt - 260ish BHP
westcoupe -418bhp
eldinho - 429bhp
turboJ -400bhp + club

looking forward to the weekend now!

i believe we have hit the 2000bhp mark with a few of the 400plus club attending! (2157bhp)

i really need to find a job that takes more of my time up....

Dont forget to upload some videos. I also wanna see 400bhp Coupe on the drag race.. I have 240whp and my best time was 13,699 Track time..

yer i will bring a camera with me!

So who's going to have a crack

11.94 @ 121mph

you coming down Flea?

No, my car is currently off the road ungergoing some cosmetic tlc.

may be next time then!!

13.7 is a good time for a 24obhp Coupe. The best I managed a few weeks back was 13.3 and that was with 416bhp, but with a boost leak as the pipe burst!

I hate to think what much more than 400bhp will be like to launch on road tyres. It will be down to the technique more than the power of the car I think, and my technique is crap!

Is anyone going to be using track tyres this Saturday?

road for me!

I've just got back from the dyno and i'll be ready for Saturday . Road Tyres I'm afraid

no figures?

right my g fiends m 8 just bought a volvo c70 t5 gt rica tuned thinks it will kill all. 286bhp 301ftibs torque have got to get my car sorted with the pulsar turbo i got under the bed to prove a point 5cyl coops take it all apparantly according to volvo t5 nutters round these parts lol prove em right boys i am franticaly tryin to get turbo on car time is a factor especialy as little 1 ill at the mo.. really want to come maybe drive down with death rattle off boost?? to watch

Soon, just need to scan in the dyno plots and upload the vids. Keep an eye in the RR section. I'll put up the results within the next few days.

Dont forget everyone that Jasons figures will be well short of what would be possible on a colder day. Ambient was well over 30 degrees yesterday and I believe Jason was seeing intake temps up to 70 degrees

Mine is in for a final bit of tweeking today, but mostly for cold (!?) running and idle. I'm not expecting anything great on power.

mate,
ive finished my car last night for saturday so i have a free night, do you wnat a hand fitting the turbo?

i can bring a mate also who gives me a hand also, loads of tools and we can get you up and running!

pm me your number and we can make the arrangments if you want!!

I Will have a s**t load of tools with me as you know what Fiats are like.

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=NN29+7XA

The weather isn't looking great for this, so don't think I'll be coming. Its too far to travel for me to take the risk.

The weather should be ok. The rain will be very light and patchy and will dry up very quickly. Great now I sound like a weather man

I'm going to get up REALLY early so that I am there for 9am, as I will need to leave by mid day. Oh the joys of life with children....

It will be a huge dissapointment if it is raining in the morning.

fingers crossed...

thats all we can do.

if it rains i will be very gutted as this is the first time i have a car worth running on the 1/4 mile!

Don't get me wrong if I was around the corner I would definately be there, but a 400 mile round trip with the petrol to go with it and touch and go weather I'm going to leave it this time.

you know what, guys, this looks like its going to be a wash out....

not sure if its worth going tbh...

no it aint. the weather just got better . Not gonna rain till 4PM now

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ee/bedford_forecast_weather.html

really??

still saying rain at 1ish!

dont know if i can trust it!

Even if it does rain at 1pm it will be light and short. the track will dry quick with a few runs from the v8 boys . Also track opens at 9:30am so thats plenty of time to do some runs.

oh man i wish i could pop down flippin working the whole weekend

The weather now says no rain

Thanks marco.. have a new plan now using my turbo... wont be makin pod, maybe shakespere the next rwyb as it not far from me. Good luck guys will await results some healtny looking power between ya all!! may the weather be fine

loads of vids please some powerful cars going tomoz.

is everyone still going then! weather may well hold out

I'm on it along with Squid & Steve_G

yes well we are still going. it will be fine maybe a dribble of rain lol, aslong as theres n downpour were going.
marco you beter come this time wanna see yours run

right. I have a problem. What to do. My mrs has brought me a ticket to go to goodwood fos but i want to run at pod. Goodwood once a year, pod is every weekend what to do what to do!?!

im going people

change of plan my ticket is for sunday! Bonus! See you guys in a few hours!

Weather is looking sweet also!

we are leaving soon, see everybody there

Good luck guys...

Bollox I thought it was sunday I'm sooooo gutted now I'm totaly gutted. I was gonna go sunday. Shiiiiiit

Westcoupe is currently leading the way with a 12.7 @ 112mph

Nice

I'm on my way up

western is striped out as well isn't he? good time.

Sounds like it was a good day, really pleased for West as he's been through the mill with his car the last few months. He managed two 12.7s and two 12.9s running just 1.6bar on road tyres, good to see it's a consistent 12 second car. I know he's not 100% happy though as the elusive tenths are as always left out on the strip.

Not sure how everyone else got on today although I think the second best time of the day was 13.5 by either TurboJ or Squid. I believe there is some good video of the day including a couple of coupe head to heads

just got back and i am burnt and i finished the day with a 12.9 with a boost leak peaking 1.4bar and dropping off really quick,turboj is still there trying to crack a 12,bare in mind its his first time running at santa pod,but is times are getting quicker

just got back from pod, didnt go in the coupe as its wrote off as you may know, seen a few good runs, spoke to westcoupe, good times by the way gt30 serious turbo.

Didnt see marco run-- did he?

oh and the ink black put in a good run im sure I saw a 13.6 and the same time for the Bravo, what set up are they running?
The red coupe was nice who's is that? im still looking for 1

oh and I saw a coupe SPANK a 3.0 gtv 24v it ran a 16.0 and a 15.7 not in the same leauge as a 20vt.
e46 m3 hard top loadsa runs best time 13.9 and the convertable best i saw was 14.0, so slower than mine who was it who said im a deluded liar if I say I kept up with an e46 M3 in my stage 1 coupe, a muppet springs to mind.

hello mate i spoke to you when i was queing up to race why didnt you say you was off the forum

I think the ink black is Steve_G on here, a GT28R which I mapped back in April. If it is good to see it putting in a nice time, the Bravo is TurboJ with a GT2871R. No idea on the red coupe.

didnt think to kiddo, Im still gutted about my coupe being wrote off and stuggling to find one im really happy with.
U get back ok then!

Thanks flea, the red one wasnt running the quater

I missed the white bmw 135i run anyone see its time?

The BMW ran 13.2 - 13.5 consistantly

thought it would there mena be faster than the e46 m3. I thought it would be 13.3 ish so not far off thats fast for std

The 1/4 mile is all about the launch for the ET. This is where RWD ad 4WD have a big advantage over FWD. That said, the terminals give a very good indication of a cars power and are fairly immune to a poor launch, so you can get an idea of how the time is being made. I'm sure the 135i isn't seeing too much over 100mph.

I didn't see the 135i run, id expect it to be around 99-101 in 13.5 seconds, the e46 was running 13.9 - 14.3 at between 99-103
my coupe ran 13.9 at 102 and a few 14.0 between 101-103 before I fitted my blueflame and I cant launch as well as a rwd car, i want my coupe back, I should of bought the salvage back.

I think its best run was 13.274 @ 106 though I can't be absolutely sure

Ok just got back and the best time I could manage was a 13.4096 @ 107MPH. The only way to get the time down was to find a balance in boost pressure vs wheel spin vs full traction power. I am just wheel spinning most of the way. All of my 8 times were in the 13’s today except my first run where I blew a boost pipe and managed a 16 .

I have noticed a few things that could really improve my time:
1) Falkon Ziex camber tyres don't grip 205/40/17
2) Couldn’t adjust tyre pressures as I can't take off my valve locks so I ran 32 psi instead of 24 ish
3) I need the addon for my blitz to control boost in every gear.
4) It’s all about the launch

Since this was my first ever run I can now take these points on board for next time. My target at the beginning of the day was a 13.2 so I guess that wasn’t bad for a pod virgin.

Westerns car was fully stripped out. I mean fully to the point where he took the bolts that hold on the alarm on, off . He has good Toyo tyres @ 24 psi and with boost gear control with 420BHP. 12.7 was an excellent time but I think with a few tinkers here and there and some r888's flea's 11.94 might be up for a challenge, so well done to him 2day.

Squid leaft very early due to other commitments and only done a few runs. I’m sure he will be on here to give his details later.

Steve_G ran r888’s and a few other tricks to get a 13.8 I’m sure he will be on here later to give his story too.

We got some good HD vid footage so when it gets edited i’ll post it up.

Here is my time slip:

Just a few quick snaps:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6189/sdc10073.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6536/sdc10099q.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5937/sdc10120cce.jpg

That's a lot faster than factory figures, although a remap would be on the cards.

How's your car going Maria after the remap, still enjoying the extra oomph?

Really love my car that little extra torque low down makes a big difference still was not brave enough to have a run today, maybe next time. Oh and you'll be pleased to know I no longer have killer brakes

all over quite a good day. A bit gutted about my times. Only ran 3 times and best run was a 14.2 gave up trying after my 3rd go. Didnt want to push my car with out more supporting mods.
Thinking getting a few bits done next month and go see flea to get a brilliant map sorted! Then i hope to get mid 13's lol

There where some mental coupes, westerns was mental!
Got a few videos so i will upload them soon!

Those brakes, I still regale the story I hope you do take it on the strip, it gets the heart pumping but still all about having some fun with the car

Marco I couldn't get lower than 14.2 with the std 16s on with our power, when I put my 18s on I got more grip and my 1st run was 13.9 so maybe you couldn't get the power down its all about the launch, I bet ur terminals were still over 100? Also did you try letting your front tyres down?
m
y zevs

no, i didnt touch my fronts just left the car as it is! After watching the video clips i noticed that it was a traction issue. So i getting so toyo r888 and spare alloys to use at pod and keep them on low psi!
You coming USC mate?

im in cyprus 15-30th july so if its not in them dates then yes.
i missed your runs cuz i thought it was today, i saw your car parked next to a red 20vt though. I thought u might crack into 13s u defo will with r888s that will sort it, also I had slightly uprated suspesion so it wont lift up as much at the front so maybe that helped because yours actually put out an extra 1bhp than mine didnt it so theres no reason you cant get mid 13s also im sure you put out a few extra tourqes.
is usc on the dates im away then, if uv not got your r888s by then we will let your pressure down, run low fuel under a quater, even could empty your washer fluid and get your spare wheel out, thats what I did. Maybe a octane booster ul give you that extra tiny bit you need.

i found my boost leak today,i have split one of the rubber doughnuts inbetween the the plenum and inlet and it is split about an inch going round and i still managed to pull a 12.9 with the leak with the boost peaking 1.4bar and dropping off rapidly

Split doughnuts seems to be quite common now

I had a huge split in one of mine too

anyone putting any vids up

thats exactly how mine was,but i have fixed it now,i have split them 3 times now its starting to get on my nerves.

can you not swap rubber doughnut on the inlet manifold for like samco hoses? will that not make them stonger or do they have to be a certain design?

yes thats a good option we can do to yours.

Hi Leighton,

The 135i would have been running a map so his terminals should be between 106-108mph, this is what I've typically seen on this model. I've seen a 135i run sub 13 seconds (12.7!!) so either this one has a normal remap pushing about 360-370bhp or he's running a strong map at 390bhp+ but is a bit inexperienced so not quite getting the times. My ex mapped 335d did a best of 13.2 at 107mph, quicker than a couple of manual E92 M3's but slower than a DCT equipped E92 M3, they posted 13.5 and 12.7 secs respectively.

Jules.

You can't directly swap the doughnuts for a short length of samco - the doughnuts have a thick lip inside them that bridge the gap between the plenum and the manifold. There are ways of getting around it - and I've been planning on removing a lip from the inlet manifold to the gap is flush. This also means moving the plenum to manifold brackets though.

Chris

There is a way round it but too long to explain as I'm using the iPhone ATM to write this.

Where are these videos then?

Steve_G has all the vids but has gone away for a few days so when he comes back i'll put them up. Don't worry i won't forget.

I'm sure Wests friend was taking some too of his best runs.

Well we had a HD camera with proper quality. One of the vids is so funny. You see West and Squid line up and west boosts off, Squid is just sitting there popping the launch control, the joys of wearing sandals for racing

if any one can help out ive got the videos, just cant post them!

get them vids on dude

i would love to see my first run

Western,

ive only got one of your runs...

and the other black plus and my runs, sending the videos to flea tonight!

Evan worse than that on the next run. I was lined up next to TurboJ when I was being told off like a naughty school boy by the woman on the line for doing a burn out too close to the start line when the light goes green and Jason shoots off. 2 seconds later she finishes having a go at me and off I trundle....

So what was your best time of the day Squid and terminal?

My best time was 13.5 @111. However, I did not manage to beat my performance the first time round where I got 13.3 @113.

I was playing with different launch techniques on Saturday. I tried the launch control once, but it was the first time I had used it and I think it was the second slowest time I did!

I was still running with the spare wheel, jack tools and loads of assorted junk in the car as I forgot to take it all out. I was in a bit of a hurry as I had to get back home by lunch time. I don't fancy ripping out all the trim etc from the car as it is likely to get messed up.

My front tyres are not at their best now, so I think I will get a spare set of rims and buy a set of R888's. That should help.

However, the Coupe is not really cut out to be a drag car, it is much better on a propper track day where it can really use the power.

squid, i just missed you i think, i saw an LE on the way into Pod i gave you a beep as we where coming past!

Marco on that run after all that i forgot to turn it on

@ J ill bring over the footage when i get back and let you sort it out

I have some footage of coupe runs I'll add more ASAP, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6nm1mCsCQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA3aOYyyqTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vKynEWuHgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-gPQN406Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4TjuSgueY0

western was getting good launch very nice. western what was you fastest 60ft time?? also what tyres were you using? some good videos cheers maria. Can't wait till my cars done and join in in these days.

thanks Maria!

was that your silver coupe with the zender skirts parked up at pod??

Great videos ... Quick cars, good track.. Why is the track so black ?

Yeah Marco, that was me in the Vinci Grey LE you saw on the way in. I waved as I went past.

hello nick i wouldnt say i was getting good launches,i was wheel spinning all the way through first and second,im running toyo t1rs and i did a 2.3second 60ft jump mate on the 12.7 run

yes I got there a little early and didn't know where to park, ended up in the middle of nowhere was surprised how quiet it was.

so basicly what your trying to say there's room for improvment and a better 1/4 mile time ;-) car looks like it's going well congrats same goes for the rest of you there! Squids car seemed like it was wheel spinning alot off the line, but as he said street tyres and full interior. Well done to all of you putting in some good 1/4 mile times.

Two more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41cJkSuoxmI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UujBCUf1A,

marco ur start looked ok its just ur terminal was a bit low to break into the 13s kid, hows ur gear changes cuz i know ur making the power

im changing around 6.5k as i said, this was the first time ive ever run the 1/4

launches were nearly spot on so im not sure,,what terminal where you doing??

obn my 14.2 run it was a terminal of 97mph

terminals were all over 100, 13.92 was 102 i did a few 14.0 at 103 i did a 14.5 at 104 my average was 14.1 or 14.2 at 102.
are u changing into 4th as u cross the line, im at the end of 3rd.

i think i was mate!
cant remember!

i thin i was short shifting from 2nd to 3rd...

thats where im losing my mph, also, i remember my gear changing not being as quick as normal.

oh well, there is next time where i will do it better, strip it out and adjust the tyre pressure's ect

iv just bought a sprint blue its just over 300 bhp but wont have a chance of getting into 13s because the gearchange is so slow and sloppy like stiring coal im trying to sort it out, if ur gearchanges arnt good at the redline it will hamper the terminal.
i doubt id get this new one over the line in low 14s because its not right yet but il get it sorted.

NICE!!

so whats going on with your black one?
will not take long to sort out the sloppy gear changes, no biggy!

black 1s dead, I miss it it was just right not too powerfull a nice blend.
what do u think the gear change is its loose and wobbly the stick, cant shift quick at all

REALLY??

you have PM!!!

you may want to get a short shifter and change the selector cabels!

that "should" sort you out mate!

i think there are some for sale atm!

ok sounds good cheers