New north west RR day 31st Oct

Hi all.

I'm looking to organise another North West Rolling Road Day. For the relative newcomers on here, we've run a few of these in the past and they've been successful, albeit with a few surprises (both nice and not so nice).
Our last outing was at our usual location of Dyno Demon in Neston, Wirral. This threw up a few irregularities so we agreed to find another location for a "compare and contrast" session.
we will be haveing it here Ric Wood Motorsport;

http://www.ricwood.com/aboutus.html

This guy has excellent reviews and perhaps more importantly for us, a set of Dastek Rollers.

Cost £35 per car. For this, you'll get 3 "Power Runs" and 2 full colour charts, plotting BHP, Torque and Fuelling.

Due to the cancellation last time, I'll need a £10 non-refundable deposit through PayPal to show your commitment.

to get this price i need ten cars so please stick your names down now,if i dont get ten car buy friday there will be no rr also the date will be the 31oct

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Good man Karl!

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Count me in, let me know when to pay?


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Count me in, let me know when to pay?


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Count me in, never know, may get my new turbo on by then! my current one is getting a little wizzy

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Karl - If we don't make 10 cars, can this still go ahead but at a slightly higher price?

hi guys. I really want to go on this rr day but i work shifts and i'm working on that saturday. i'll try to swap it and let u know asap.

yes this will go ahead but would be better for all price wise if theres ten

cowboy, can I get a discount if I bring two cars I would like to see what my mr2 is putting out

yes 50 quid each lol

So what's the plan deposits when we have ten?
I'm in

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na sod the deposits if your not there and your name is on the list ill come hunting.

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ok lads update on this its still only 35 quid for six,

What time is this starting Karl? If possible I may need the earliest slot as I'm thinking of going to Santa Pod straight after?

Excellent news Karl

This might sound really daft as I've never been to a RR before...but is it possible to have the car tested, then fit my Powertek chip to see the difference then decide by the third run whether to keep it on?

You should communicate that with the RR-guys, but if you make easy access to the ECU id suppose its no problemo!

Good news.
@Bodgemeister Do we have a 7th?

Glad to hear it's still on I'm up for it as it's got to be better then going on my own!

im looking forward to this, Be nice to get a run before, and then after my turbo replacement (my current one isnt in the best of health now)

I may still be able to make this now, will know more after this weekend

iv not sorted time out yet but you can go first eldinho,is there anyone else needing to go anywere.

Sod it, why not. Yes I'll be there. Are we just paying on the day?


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pay on the day mate,this will be a first i think were flea will be haveing 4 car,s at the same time haveing there rr results after map,i hope you lot have got your old results

I've never been to one before...but if I manage to get the Gtec before we go, I intend on running it standard, then with the chip - to see the results. If thats going to be possible.

that might not be a good idea,as you need to run it a few miles for the chip to set in,i might be wrong

Your on the money there cowboy mine took a little wile to settle down, i'm expecting less than standard power

Oh right ok. Well that's kinda good news as well - means I can fit it the minute it arrives and not have to wait

Thinking about it...that would be better as the ECU will be used to the chip and I'll (hopefully) get a decent reading on the rollers to see if its over / under fueling.

I've convinced my mate to bring his Escort RS Turbo

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nice one bodgemeister

Have we a rough idea of what time yet? Just so I can make other plans for that day.

about ten-ish would be fine mate

Awesome,thats great for me.

cowboy, if i got there about 12 would that be ok? how long does each run take as i've never been to one before either.

12 is no prob at all,each car takes about 30min to 1hour about

still need a few more.

I might be able to get a mate come, but it wont be in a coop

cool

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Hi Everyone, I've just joined up to help out with the numbers for this event. Sorry to inform everyone that I'm not bringing a Fiat Coupe as I don't have one, but will be brining my Volvo V40 T4 instead. I hope you'll all be able to forgive me this small misdemeanor. Look forward to seeing everyone there.
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My mate is coming in his clio trophy. He has also asked if any of the other renault forum boys want to come.

volvo has been big talk here just of late,theres even one who has sold his coupe to buy one.

yes matt thats ok 18 max on the day

Karl - I have put a thread up on the Renaultsport forum and there is a few over there that are interested. Maybe 4 or 5. Hope this is ok?

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There is a good bit of interest from the Renaultsport club so i think we may have around 15 cars going now. Including clios, meganes and a monaro i think

Ok, there are currently 8 people from the renault forum coming! I have told them that is the maximum number. I didn't think that there would be so much interest from their side! So it looks like their is only 1 or 2 places left!
Sorry if i have stepped on anybodys toe's. If anymore coupes put their names down i'll have to ask a renault to drop out.

hi matt can you fill this in
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1. cowboy (FCCUK)
2. eldinho (FCCUK)
3. NorthernBloke (FCCUK)
4. MattM (FCCUK)
5. samsite999 (FCCUK)
6. Jef_UK (FCCUK)
7. Matt (Bodgemeister) (FCCUK)
8. Tommo (Bodgemeister's Mate) (FCCUK)
9. AndyMac (FCCUK)
10. R-Kid (RenaultSport) (Monaro VXR8)
11. Trumpetman21 (RenaultSport)
12. PB.Trophy (RenaultSport)
13. Kevo66 (RenaultSport)
14. Foxspeed (RenaultSport)
15. Matt (RenaultSport)
16. Eddy (RenaultSport)
17. Pugs9000 (RenaultSport)

ok no more thanks,list end,s here

Hi all,

Just confirming that I'm defo coming and wondered if there was a achedule or is it a case of everyone one turn up at once?

and is there room for all of us at the same time?

Lastly is anyone filming any of it and can you listen watch or is it one of those where they make you keep out of the way and not watch?

Regards Craig

every time i have been to one you can watch as much as you like but keep well away from them rollers,ok so i was thinking we dont need to be there all at the same time so if the first half of the list are there in the morning and the other half after 12,

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1. eldinho (FCCUK)
2. cowboy (FCCUK)
3. NorthernBloke (FCCUK)
4. MattM (FCCUK)
5. samsite999 (FCCUK)
6. Jef_UK (FCCUK)
7. Matt (Bodgemeister) (FCCUK)
8. Tommo (Bodgemeister's Mate) (FCCUK)
9. AndyMac (FCCUK)

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10. R-Kid (RenaultSport) (Monaro VXR8)
11. Trumpetman21 (RenaultSport)
12. PB.Trophy (RenaultSport)
13. Kevo66 (RenaultSport)
14. Foxspeed (RenaultSport)
15. Matt (RenaultSport)
16. Eddy (RenaultSport)
17. Pugs9000 (RenaultSport)

Remember it helps to have your towing Eye handy although I am sure this should not be a problem for the FCCUK people who are in Coupes as some one must bring one... Helps keep the car still on the RR.

What is the plans for lunch Need to prioritise these things!

has sam not sold his coupe??

I will be there fairly early I think. Not sure I'm going Santa Pod anymore so may not need the first run!

yes sam has but he might be comming in the mr2

I have sold the coupe, But i'm keeping my space, Ill be there in the mr2 or emms bravo 155hgt, Or even a coupe possibly, I will defiantly attend however.

I'm looking forward to this

Should be a really good day and a big turnout. The Renault boys are excited about it, i've had to turn some of them away because there are too many attendee's!

Hello Everyone,

I've got good news for someone as due to unforseen circumstances I am no longer able to attend this event on Saturday. I'm pretty peeved about it as I've never had the car on a rolling road and would love to know what it can do, but there's nothing I can do about it as the circumstances are beyond my control.

Someone is going to get a fabulous day out for a paltry £35. Good luck to whoever gets my space!

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1. eldinho (FCCUK)
2. cowboy (FCCUK)
3. NorthernBloke (FCCUK)
4. MattM (FCCUK)
5. samsite999 (FCCUK)
6. Jef_UK (FCCUK)
7. Matt (Bodgemeister) (FCCUK)
8. Tommo (Bodgemeister's Mate) (FCCUK)
9. VACANT

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10. R-Kid (RenaultSport) (Monaro VXR8)
11. Trumpetman21 (RenaultSport)
12. PB.Trophy (RenaultSport)
13. Kevo66 (RenaultSport)
14. Foxspeed (RenaultSport)
15. Matt (RenaultSport)
16. Eddy (RenaultSport)
17. Pugs9000 (RenaultSport)

I would also like to apologise to Cowboy for dropping out at the last minute but am pretty sure it's not gonna be hard to find someone to take my place!!!

CB, what time is this please so I can put it in my diary (yes I have one!?)

as above sam from 9 oclock

Sorted, Sorry missed that bit! See you there Cowboy

** Another cancellation I'm afraid**

My mates had to go in for some urgent, unexpected, surgery so he's no longer able to make it.


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6. Jef_UK (FCCUK)
7. Matt (Bodgemeister) (FCCUK)
8. VACANT
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10. R-Kid (RenaultSport) (Monaro VXR8)
11. Trumpetman21 (RenaultSport)
12. PB.Trophy (RenaultSport)
13. Kevo66 (RenaultSport)
14. Foxspeed (RenaultSport)
15. Matt (RenaultSport)
16. Eddy (RenaultSport)
17. Pugs9000 (RenaultSport)

two spots left anyone

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Its going to be close for me making this, looks like the coolant hose of death went on me tonight. will know more in the morning.

and cowboy, my flakey front LE lip has now turned into a broken lip when it went on the recovery truck oh well, good excuse to get another one!

Well it looks like I'm struggling to get a coolant hose by the weekend? So it looks like I may be dropping out of this. Gutted.

RR days and me just don't mix I think!

Hopefully a miracle might happen!

How did it all go today?? Good turnout?? Gutted i couldn't make it!!

Was not to bad there were some unfortunate missing coupes though.
I got 200 at the wheels Not sure I believe my peak power number of 250 as it was at more RPM than the max wheel BHP..... not sure how that works. Not a bad torque curve but Cowboy's is worth a look at really good area under it. Sure he will get a scan and be singing Flea's praises soon.

I'll try and get my graph up soon but have to fix my web server firstly.

start off were the hell was samsite,(end of rant)o and never try and bring a silver coupe to a RR you wont get there missed you both and bad luck matt,all the Renault guys turned up as they said they would and they had some nice figers aswell nice bunch hope they come again,also we had a tour of ric,s place what he is doing in there just blows you away.ill leve flea say if i had a good results our not as i cant figer it out but it do,s look rather good for a hybrid with charge cooler and the car fly,s
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/cowboykarl/Image090.jpg

Excellent results Karl, 290bhp+ from 5000-6500rpm. The torque is fantastic at almost 300lbs/ft and it reaches this at 3000rpm holding it all the way to 5000rpm. It's like a standard coupe on massive steroids, it simply does everything better

From seeing the graph on the PC and a talk with Ric (Rick?) the drop then rise in my torque curve coincides with my car going first rich (the dip) the lean. I think you may have a supper-spool cowboy as you come on boost (torque is earlier) than my hybrid and my peak power although down on yours is at more RPM.
Your curve does not drop off as drastic as my one Karl and 250 @ the wheels is nice.

Great results Cowboy, bet you'll well happy with that

over the bloody moon lol

Congrats

That torque figure is amazing given the setup and power!

Great result Karl, must be great on the road. I'm sure all them shiny bits give you at least an extra 20bhp

Sorry I couldn't make it, I'm just about to fit my new coolant hose!

it,s a mad car now stick your foot down and your gone,and with them new wheels it feels so planted,flea done a brill job

what is the spec of your hybrid cowboy thats a incredible graph torque wise

this is all i can find on it at the mo sorry
http://www.turbotechnics.com/docs/turbo/s161.htm

no probs was just interested to know as thats one of the best torque curves i have ever seen, must be fantastic to drive

Only just got round to posting mine. Was very chuffed with the results:

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-...9_4457673_n.jpg

Thats running air filter, S/Steel system and Gtec 1 chip.

That's a pretty big boost/torque spike!! Peak torque is showing 277lbs/ft, but the reality it is 240lbs/ft, try cleaning your EBV. Other than that nice solid results.

A couple of graphs comparing Cowboy, Jef and Bodge's results:

Forgive me if this is a daft question...but by cleaning the EBV - what difference would that show/gain?

It will be the reason why you have a massive boost spike as shown at 3200rpm on your graph. The chip should limit boost to 1.2bar with a small over boost i.e. 1.4bar. Unfortunately the standard EBV can become a little tired resulting in slow response with overboost going up to 1.8bar hence an increase of 37lbs/ft very briefly! Try cleaning with WD40 which can help improve the response time.