UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout

Posted By: Anonymous

UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 20/12/2010 15:32

We are looking to organise an Outlaw Street FWD shootout, they are massive in the US and with the number of fast FWD cars in the uk increasing yearly now seems like a good time to pull them all together in on location, for one weekend only

We are still in the planning stages at the moment, but please show your interest by following us on facebook

UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 20/12/2010 16:07

are you looking for cars to compete??

Posted By: chrissy

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 20/12/2010 16:22

What else, no competitors would make for a dull shoot out

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 19/01/2011 02:55

I'm up for it

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 21/01/2011 14:32

Competitors and/or sponsors

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 21/01/2011 14:32

The Date and Venue have now been announced

Sunday 21 Aug 2011 at Santapod

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 21/01/2011 14:40

i would like to go to this! just to watch!

Posted By: Jack

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 21/01/2011 17:03

how many runs are people getting

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 23/01/2011 21:46

It will be 3 qualifying runs, then top 16 cars go through, then 4 rounds of knock outs.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 25/01/2011 07:05

The Website has now been launched. All the information you need is on there. It lists rules, prizes, sponsors, how to enter etc…

www.outlawshootout.co.uk

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 25/01/2011 09:55

None of the current uk fiat coupe's are quick enough to compete at this level unfortunately, and in the rules 5 cyl cars are not even permitted. This would seem only open to the 16vt guys and nobody in the uk has a serious enough one to compete.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 26/01/2011 15:11

we can modify the rules if 5cyl cars want to join. Its only the weights, and it would come half way between 4 and 6

Its not always the fastest cars that win on the day, reliability has a lot to pay in it. In the HKS series 50% of the time the fastest car doesnt win.

Posted By: Nigel

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 26/01/2011 19:16

There would be no point, other than for personal entertainment

The fastest Coupe quarter is a high eleven, which would see us a long way down the times (several UK FWD cars are now breaking into the high nines)

Even stripped out, a Coupe is around 1200kg, which puts us at a massive disadvantage compared with the sub-1000kg flyweights.

I reckon a Coupe would need 800+ bhp in order to compete, and even then, traction would be a massive issue

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 27/01/2011 12:03

i may do it if we can sort out what class etc i would be in and it looks i have a chance of qualifying but like nigel says i doubt i will be that competetive particularly in view of the fact i have never done a 1/4 mile run as yet..(though theres plenty of time to change that before the event)

i don't think there would be any point in me going for more power to try and get anywhere though i could quite easily make more as i am going to struggle with traction anyway and breaking things

anyway i am game for it

Posted By: Nigel

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 27/01/2011 20:00

As two of us have found out to our costs, too much traction is very bad for gearboxes - the diff just isn't up to it

Also, if you've never done a quarter mile before, you really need to get some practice - its pretty difficult to launch a standard Coupe in order to get the book figure quarter time (circa 14.5 seconds). When you double the power, I reckon it more than doubles the difficulty level

When I went from 300bhp to 400+, my times got slower for the first few runs - I reckon it took at least ten runs (over two or three events) before I got the hang of it

Sadly, I won't be doing any more drag runs, as I now know I have sufficient power to break a diff

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 27/01/2011 21:03

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 28/01/2011 17:50

If you have big power, track tyres and a grippy surface, release the clutch a bit more gently, if you release it fast at 5000rpm that sends a massive impact straight through the diff and gearbox.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 29/01/2011 22:38

surely one of the new big power coupes have enough to rip the lower power light weight cars?

Posted By: Jack

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 29/01/2011 23:37

for the same price you can do totb and you get 1/4 mile, top speed, and circuit plus they dont discriminate against 5 cylinders

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 30/01/2011 20:36

Originally Posted By: Nigel

Sadly, I won't be doing any more drag runs, as I now know I have sufficient power to break a diff

Run a APEXI Boost controler and set it low in first gear?

Posted By: Begbie

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 09:18

Originally Posted By: adam6900

Originally Posted By: Nigel

Sadly, I won't be doing any more drag runs, as I now know I have sufficient power to break a diff

Run a APEXI Boost controler and set it low in first gear?

Still wont help. When you dial in 4000rpm and dump the clutch a boost controller isn't going to help save the gearbox

Posted By: Nigel

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 09:37

Originally Posted By: Begbie

Still wont help. When you dial in 4000rpm and dump the clutch a boost controller isn't going to help save the gearbox

Agreed - if I had performed the same launch in a standard car, the diff would still have broken - it was the shock load of too much traction, trying to shift a 1400+kg car - something had to give - normally its the tyres, but with the track being super-sticky that day, something else broke

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 09:56

that track was soooo sticky it was crazy.

pod claimed alot of gearbox's that day.
still shocked how you managed to limp it down the 1/4 mile Nigel!?

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 15:37

Guess we need to re-think the way forward to make a faster 1/4 mile. Faster spool-up, faster torque delivery? Spare gearbox..lol

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 15:40

Originally Posted By: Nazo

Guess we need to re-think the way forward to make a faster 1/4 mile. Faster spool-up, faster torque delivery? Spare gearbox..lol

...and a trailer??

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 15:49

It seems a shame to break Coupes drag-racing when they are one of the prettiest and most capable GTs ever. Track days are fun (although I'd never risk breaking mine), but leave the drag tracks alone unless your Coupe is surplus to requirements IMHO

Posted By: Hovedan

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 16:57

Originally Posted By: tim42

^^^^ +1 couldn't agree more.

Leave the drag strip for those lighter creatures better suited!

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 31/01/2011 20:41

Originally Posted By: tim42

It seems a shame to break Coupes drag-racing when they are one of the prettiest and most capable GTs ever.

One of the most sensible statements I've read on here in over 4 years.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 11/02/2011 19:10

This event is gathering momentum now, with 9 confirmed entrants from the UK some coming over from Ireland, and Denmark, with others expected to join from Malta and Germany. More sponsors are getting involved weekly. If you would like to become a sponsor checkout the sponsorship page. Also if you’re interested in entering checkout the rulesrules and Apply Online pages.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 25/02/2011 18:39

We would like to thank all our sponsors for helping make this happen.
The total prize money promised now stands at over £3000

This means that the prize money is currently
1st prize at least £1500
Runner up at least £500
Loosing semi finalists at least £200

with additional prizes already in place for
Quickest NA ET £100
Quickest Nitrous Car ET £150
Quickest Reaction Time £100
Fastest 60' Time £200
Fastest 1/8 MPH £100
First 150mph car £100

This event is going to be huge. We would like to thank

Drive shaft shop www.driveshaftshop.com
TDi North www.tdi-north.com
Quaife www.quaife.co.uk
Wizards of NOS www.noswizard.com
EFI Parts www.efi-parts.co.uk
CPL Racing www.cplracing.co.uk
S1 Chiropractic www.s1chiropractic.com
TTS Performance www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk
Renault Turbo O.C www.rtoc.org
Garage 786 www.garage786.co.uk
Concept Graphix www.conceptgraphix.com

Lou Connor

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 14/03/2011 18:08

Just thought I would let you all know that we have released a new forum on the outlaw shootout website.

Please register and show your support

Outlaw Shootout Forum

Thanks.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 23/03/2011 14:12

We currently have over £3000 in prizes to be won

The current prize list is below with more being added as more sponsors come on board and more competitors enter.

Prizes
Winner £1,500
Runner Up £ 500
Loosing semi finalists (x2) £ 200

Quickest ET £ 100
Quickest NA ET £ 100
Quickest Supercharged ET £ 100
Quickest Nitrous Car ET £ 150 (vouchers)
Fastest 1/4 MPH £ 100
Quickest Reaction Time £ 100
Fastest 60' Time £ 200
Fastest 1/8 MPH £ 100
First 150mph car £ 100

Please show your support for our sponsors and join the new Forum

http://www.outlawshootout.com/forum

Thanks.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 22/08/2011 13:21

What an amazing day, the overall prize of £1500 went to Adam Buckley in his Honda Civic

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who narrowly beat Allan Duthie in his Vauxhall Corsa

The other prize being awarded as follows

Winner: Adam Buckley - Honda Civic - £1500
Runner up : Allan Duthie - Vauxhall Corsa - £500
Loosing Semi Finalists Neil Knight - Honda Civic, Andy Nichols - Rover MGZR - £200

Quickest ET - Adam Buckley - Honda Civic - 10.5132 - £150
Quickest NA ET - Alvis Moronta - Honda Civic- 11.2863 - £150
Quickest Supercharged ET - Douglas Gemmell - Honda Civic- 11.0322 - £150
Quickest Nitrous Only Powered Car ET - Paul Bargate - VW Scirocco - £150
Quickest Reaction Time - Allan Duthie - Vauxhall Corsa - 0.1584 - £100

Fastest 60' Time - Douglas Gemmell - Honda Civic - 1.6036 - £100
Fastest 1/8 MPH - Yasir Dar - Honda Civic - 115.97mph - £100
Fastest 1/4 MPH - Andy Nichols 146.28 mph - Rover MGZR - £100

Number 1 Qualifier - Andy Nichols - Rover MGZR - £100
First 150mph car - No winner - carries over to next year.

Thanks to all the competitors and sponsors for making this possible.

Videos will be online soon at www.outlawshootout.co.uk

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 23/08/2011 19:58

Rounds 1&2 of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
15 Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

The competitors:
Adam Buckley - Honda Civic Type R - PB: 9.95 @ 153 mph 700bhp
Andy Nichols - Rover MGZR Turbo - PB: 10.23 @ 138mph 650bhp
Yasir Dar Honda - Civic - PB: 10.8 @ 128mph 450bhp
Douglas Gemmell - Honda Civic - PB: 10.92 @129mph 450bhp
Rob Carnson - Honda Civic - PB: 10.95 @ 132mph 500bhp
Kiel Priestman - Honda Civic - PB: 11.2@131mph 600bhp
Alvis Moronta - Honda Civic - PB: 11.3 @ 121mph 300bhp
Paul Bargate - VW Scirocco - PB: 11.31@125.5mph 400bhp
Neil Knight - Honda Civic Type R - PB: 11.5 @ 121 mph 400bhp
Karl Hart - Honda Civic - PB: 11.82@121mph 360bhp
Neil Wrenn - Honda CRX Delsol - PB: 11.84 @ 121mph 500bhp
George - Lockerby Vauxhall Corsa - PB: 11.96 @ 130mph 400bhp
Allan - Duthie Vauxhall Corsa - PB: 12.00@133mph 500bhp
Mark - Galvin Renault 5 GT Turbo - PB: 12.3 @ 111 mph 300bhp
Lee Walker - Honda Civic TypeR - PB: 12.8 @ 115mph 450bhp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkY-qPvtME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-wBOAVxGFk

1st Eliminator in the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
15 Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Rob Carnson vs Mark Galvin
Douglas Gemmell vs Karl Hart
George Lockerby vs Alvis Moronta
Neil Wrenn vs Lee Walker
Mark Galvin vs Rob Carnson
Allan Duthie vs Kiel Priestman
Adam Buckley vs Paul Bargate
Andy Nichols vs Bye
Neil Knight vs Yasir Dar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PdhAKtdnU8

Quarter Finals of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
8 cars left Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Neil Knight vs Karl Hart
Allan Duthie vs Rob Carnson
Adam Buckley vs Alvis Moronta
Andy Nichols vs Neil Wrenn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpk49imbWXI

Semi Finals of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
4 cars left Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Neil Knight vs Allan Duthie
Adam Buckley Andy Nichols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXoo1xaGg0g

Final of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
the last 2 cars left Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Allan Duthie vs Adam Buckley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBehIHDsYk

Thanks to our sponsors
The Driveshaft Shop - www.driveshaftshop.com
Quaife - www.quaife.co.uk
TDi North - www.tdi-north.com
Wizards of NOS - www.noswizard.com
EFI Parts - www.efi-parts.co.uk
CPL Racing - www.cplracing.co.uk
S1 Chiropractic - www.s1chiropractic.com
Concept Graphix - www.conceptgraphix.com
TTS Performance - www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk
Renault Turbo O.C - www.rtoc.org
Garage 786 - www.garage786.co.uk

LA Racing Parts - www.laracingparts.com
East Coast Customs - www.eastcoastcustomsonline.co.uk
GB Enterprises - www.gb-ent.com
Lou Connor

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 24/08/2011 11:34

some proper quick cars there,might come watch next year as looks entertaining

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 01/09/2011 19:10

There's now a writeup with the whole event video'd on our website
http://www.outlawshootout.co.uk/2011-event.php

You Fiats need to get a car entered next year

What happened to the 500+ bhp fiat that use to run at TOTB ?

Posted By: Nigel

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 01/09/2011 19:37

Originally Posted By: RichardB

You Fiats need to get a car entered next year

What happened to the 500+ bhp fiat that use to run at TOTB ?

I guess you mean JohnS' Ink Black Coupe (rather than my Sprint Blue)? It was broken for spares a year or two ago...

Sadly, the Coupe is just too heavy to do well in drag events - we can't get below about 1150kg, even with everything stripped out. This is leaving us with a 200-300kg disadvantage against the Vauxhall boys

When you do a top speed event, you might get some Coupe interest...

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 04/09/2011 12:30

Originally Posted By: RichardB

Rounds 1&2 of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
15 Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

The competitors:
Adam Buckley - Honda Civic Type R - PB: 9.95 @ 153 mph 700bhp
Andy Nichols - Rover MGZR Turbo - PB: 10.23 @ 138mph 650bhp
Yasir Dar Honda - Civic - PB: 10.8 @ 128mph 450bhp
Douglas Gemmell - Honda Civic - PB: 10.92 @129mph 450bhp
Rob Carnson - Honda Civic - PB: 10.95 @ 132mph 500bhp
Kiel Priestman - Honda Civic - PB: 11.2@131mph 600bhp
Alvis Moronta - Honda Civic - PB: 11.3 @ 121mph 300bhp
Paul Bargate - VW Scirocco - PB: 11.31@125.5mph 400bhp
Neil Knight - Honda Civic Type R - PB: 11.5 @ 121 mph 400bhp
Karl Hart - Honda Civic - PB: 11.82@121mph 360bhp
Neil Wrenn - Honda CRX Delsol - PB: 11.84 @ 121mph 500bhp
George - Lockerby Vauxhall Corsa - PB: 11.96 @ 130mph 400bhp
Allan - Duthie Vauxhall Corsa - PB: 12.00@133mph 500bhp
Mark - Galvin Renault 5 GT Turbo - PB: 12.3 @ 111 mph 300bhp
Lee Walker - Honda Civic TypeR - PB: 12.8 @ 115mph 450bhp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkY-qPvtME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-wBOAVxGFk

1st Eliminator in the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
15 Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Rob Carnson vs Mark Galvin
Douglas Gemmell vs Karl Hart
George Lockerby vs Alvis Moronta
Neil Wrenn vs Lee Walker
Mark Galvin vs Rob Carnson
Allan Duthie vs Kiel Priestman
Adam Buckley vs Paul Bargate
Andy Nichols vs Bye
Neil Knight vs Yasir Dar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PdhAKtdnU8

Quarter Finals of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
8 cars left Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Neil Knight vs Karl Hart
Allan Duthie vs Rob Carnson
Adam Buckley vs Alvis Moronta
Andy Nichols vs Neil Wrenn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpk49imbWXI

Semi Finals of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
4 cars left Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Neil Knight vs Allan Duthie
Adam Buckley Andy Nichols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXoo1xaGg0g

Final of the 2011 UK Outlaw FWD Shootout
the last 2 cars left Competitors fighting it out to be crowned the uk's fastest fwd!

Allan Duthie vs Adam Buckley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBehIHDsYk

Thanks to our sponsors
The Driveshaft Shop - www.driveshaftshop.com
Quaife - www.quaife.co.uk
TDi North - www.tdi-north.com
Wizards of NOS - www.noswizard.com
EFI Parts - www.efi-parts.co.uk
CPL Racing - www.cplracing.co.uk
S1 Chiropractic - www.s1chiropractic.com
Concept Graphix - www.conceptgraphix.com
TTS Performance - www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk
Renault Turbo O.C - www.rtoc.org
Garage 786 - www.garage786.co.uk
Aford Awards - www.afordawards.co.uk
LA Racing Parts - www.laracingparts.com
East Coast Customs - www.eastcoastcustomsonline.co.uk
GB Enterprises - www.gb-ent.com
Lou Connor

Some very quick cars in that list, I bet that tyre R is an animal, I had the pleasure of riding in A civic with A tyre R converion "TURBO", I was very impressed

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout - 08/11/2011 00:33

Originally Posted By: Nigel

Originally Posted By: RichardB

You Fiats need to get a car entered next year

What happened to the 500+ bhp fiat that use to run at TOTB ?

Maybe you're pretty wrong.. maybe nobody REALLY tried to do that in UK ..

...Oh, I forget to specify..: is still A LOT of weight to drop.. now my door is 11.6kg.. one fiberglass door is about 6kg.. my bonnet ~12.4kg.. fiberglass bonnet (race purpose not "bling-bling" one) has about 9kg. Fuel tank at my car weight is standard one.. if is replaced with aluminium front tank, help at mass distribution AND drop another 7kg... the bar that is under dashboard, weight about 14kg..one duraluminium replacement , has about 3kg ...My brakes is useless at drag and is Very heavy... here is room too for a lot better lightweight(ALSO with smaller brakes can be used 15" rims and drag slicks that help A LOT at good 60ft) .My wheels was the standard set.. here could be droped again about 10-15kg ... That is the story Mr. Nigel.. Sadly NOBODY from fccuk ever really tried to get a decent ET ..

.. All of our mates came at dragstrip with rear tyres Very large width, and Maybe..just maybe with street (semi)slicks on front rims.. Not to say they came in many occasions with...bigger rims than std 16" ...and that's pretty hilarious for somebody that pretend is coming to get a best ET for his car..:)