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Re: SpaItalia 2012. The dates.

Posted By: barnacle

Re: SpaItalia 2012. The dates. - 17/01/2012 06:42

I don't have the powers to make this a separate thread, but it probably should be:

What are people doing about recovery policies?

I am mindful of Joe's experience a couple of years back, and I have not been able to find a single recovery policy which will recover the vehicle itself, if, in the opinion of the recover company, the cost of the recovery is greater than the value of the vehicle or the cost of the repairs.

Gentlemen, as far as the world is concerned we drive rusty old scruffy Italian cars and in many cases the book value of the cars is only a grand, or even less.

Has anyone found a policy which will guarantee recovery of the vehicle to either home or a selected specialist in the case of severe damage?

Perhaps we could persuade one of our coupe-friendly companies to consider this?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: SpaItalia 2012. The dates. - 17/01/2012 09:05

yer, Neil Willies do a policy dont they??

Mario??

Sarah??
Posted By: Countrycruising

Re: SpaItalia 2012. The dates. - 17/01/2012 09:11

I asked Sarah about Coupe recovery last year but back then they weren't able to offer anything frown
Posted By: magooagain

Re: SpaItalia 2012. The dates. - 17/01/2012 10:19

Trailors for sale or rent,room's to let 50 cents.
Oh wrong thread !
Posted By: PeteP

recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 10:38

Created as a separate thread at Barnacle's request.
Posted By: PeteP

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 10:50

Mine is covered on the annual european breakdown cover I took out through Neil Willies last year.

If I do have a problem, my argument will be the coupe's value is the agreed value on the insurance policy.

This is more than the likely cost of repatriation.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 11:50

Same here Pete, although I will be checking later when at home
Posted By: MarioCirillo

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 12:21

Some people who have policies with Neil Willies will probably have european breakdown cover as part of it
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 12:50

*GULP* i hope i have.. laugh
Posted By: Hovedan

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 13:00

Originally Posted By: MarioCirillo
Some people who have policies with Neil Willies will probably have european breakdown cover as part of it


That ambiguous statement is far from confidence inspiring Mario! "Some" people "probably" have it.

I implore all to check!!
Posted By: coupedummy

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 13:03

I have euro recovery with footman james
Posted By: barnacle

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 14:49

Euro recovery with Green Flag - but the question is... does the car come home? A flat tyre probably exceeds the book value of mine, as it's cat C.
Posted By: MarioCirillo

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 14:53

i dont understand this whole car not coming home thing. Can someone please explain... if i pay for recovery i want recovery home. They cant write the car off if the engine blows surly?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 14:54

yep, they did it to joe last time remember??
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 14:54

read this..

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1085513
Posted By: MarioCirillo

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 14:57

yeah i did read that, still dont fully understand why
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 15:04

repair over Value
Posted By: MarioCirillo

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 16:29

I don't want repair
I want recovery

Also where does the value come from... my cars insurance agreed value is well higher than what the books say
Posted By: PeteP

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 17:23

Recovery or repair, it is all the same to the breakdown people. It's money and they will go for the cheapest option left to themselves.

If they think they can get away with the vehicle being valued at the same price as a bag of cold sick, they will. That is roughly the value that mainstream insurers place on the car.

However if you have agreed value insurance in place, they will find it hard to argue that the cost of repair or recovery is greater than the insured value of the car.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 17:24

Originally Posted By: MarioCirillo
I don't want repair
I want recovery


My point exactly...
Posted By: MCMike

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 20:55

This is one of my concerns if something *bad* happens at Spa confused
Posted By: Sedicivalvole

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 21:29

Don't worry gwar we'll be with you laugh
Posted By: MCMike

Re: recovery policies. - 17/01/2012 21:42

Gwar - think you're getting me confused with giant ginger Dave ? cool laugh
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 10:33

Hello everyone

Just to clear this up, as long as you have a motor insurance policy with us via Classic Line which you have paid the additional charge to include European Breakdown Cover then I confirm, the policy is in the first instance designed to keep you and your party mobile during the journey or holiday abroad, it is what is says a breakdown policy. It does not cover the costs of parts and only provides breakdown cover where the vehicle cannot be driven as a result of a mechanical or electrical breakdown, failure or breakage, which results in you not being able to drive the car.

If the car cannot be repaired at the roadside/scene of the breakdown then the cover will arrange and pay for the reasonable cost to take the car, yourself and upto 4 passengers from the place where the vehicle broke down to the nearest garage.

If the car cannot be repaired at the roadside or the garage during the same day then the cover will provide the refund of costs to take the vehicle, you and upto 4 passengers to any one place you choose.

There are various exclusions and policies limits and you need to read your documents carefully and be aware of these. The cover is limited to an absolute maximum of £3000 in any one year/policy and you need to read the policy to understand exactly how/where this is limited and what is covered exactly and more importantly what is not.

You will know if you have this cover because you would of been issued with a breakdown certificate/schedule and the European Cover box will be highlighted. All policies have UK Breakdown as standard, so you need to check carefully which cover is in force.

full policy wording below

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/documents/classicline_motor_breakdown.pdf

Hope this helps

Thanks
Sarah
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 10:48

Thanks Sarah!

smile
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 11:20

Those that are attending Spa and are concerned as to whether you have this cover or not, please contact me either via email or PM with your full name, vehicle registartion number and I will happily check your policy and see if you have the cover etc.

I will be looking at providing quotations for Track Day Cover as well if anyone is considering this, again PM or email me

Thanks
Sarah
Posted By: barnacle

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 14:19

Are you able to provide the European Breakdown Recovery on an ad-hoc basis, Sarah, to people otherwise insured?

Also, what would Track Day Cover, er, cover?

Thanks,

Neil
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 14:33

The European Breakdown policy refered to above is only offered as an extension of a particular motor policy we sell.

We do arrange seperate Breakdown Cover which does not need to be attached to a policy, but when I enquired last year we found that the policy was very similar to what Joe had experienced where the cover/costs were limited by the market value of the car.

In respect of Track Day Cover this is a policy which provides Accidental Damage Cover Only for the car whilst it is on the track. So should you have an motor accident on the track cover is provided for your car, any car doesn't have to be a Fiat Coupe, upto a certain specified value, however the policy is subject to a minimum £1000 Excess, so in the majority of cases the overall cover is going to be fairly low in view of the excess.

The Club arrange seperate Liability Cover for any damage caused to the track etc, further details of this can be obtained from Pete

PM or email me should you wish to enquire about the AD Cover or Breakdown Cover.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: SpaItalia 2012. The dates. - 18/01/2012 14:57

Originally Posted By: Countrycruising
I asked Sarah about Coupe recovery last year but back then they weren't able to offer anything frown


Joe I could arrange it if you wanted to take out a motor policy for the car(s)you were taking to Spa and would then extend to provide European Breakdown as detailed, but I am sure you don't want to go to this expense.
Posted By: magooagain

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 15:12

Originally Posted By: MarioCirillo
I don't want repair
I want recovery

Also where does the value come from... my cars insurance agreed value is well higher than what the books say



I know it's easily said. BUT if you are going to track your beloved coupes hard (which is hard to resist) you have to be prepaired for something breaking at sometime. If you dont or cant pay for additional cover,well you know the risk. We just cant have it all our way,unless you dig deep in the pocket.
Maintain your coupe,ready for track and a long drive and then you have a great chance of being trouble free.
Posted By: barnacle

Re: recovery policies. - 18/01/2012 19:46

Hmm. Thanks for clearing that up, Sarah.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: recovery policies. - 01/02/2012 09:02


Please remember that the breakdown cover provided is only if the car breaks down on the ROAD/PUBLIC HIGHWAY not the track !!!
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