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Linux Mint Boot issue #1649387
16/03/2021 15:32
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Yes I know, here I go asking a single model car forum for a model I haven't owned for *checks notes* 10 years about a *checks notes* completely unrelated computer issue but we are where we are!

In advance of a cheeky CPU upgrade I've recently upgraded my Bios (1.00 to 3.40 via 1.90) to a version that would support my existing CPU and the new one. All well and good in Windows but Mint now takes a full 5 minutes to boot. The Mint logo appears at about 35 seconds (incidentally the rough time it takes Windows 10 to reach login) but then nothing happens for 5 minutes. A Google reveals the following commands (new to me but look useful for future troubleshooting) and outputs which point at some form of networking issue but beyond that I'm stuck. Any ideas?

Code
me@mymachine:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 17.881s (firmware) + 3.729s (loader) + 6.274s (kernel) + 5min 4.610s (userspace) = 5min 32.496s 
graphical.target reached after 5min 4.600s in userspace

me@mymachine:~$ systemd-analyze blame
5min 178ms networking.service                                                  >
    3.285s NetworkManager-wait-online.service                                  >
    2.671s ifupdown-pre.service                                                >
    1.421s windscribe-cli.service                                              >
<-- And a load of other stuff that was all less a second -->
                                               >
me@mymachine:~$ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time when unit became active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit took to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @5min 4.600s
;multi-user.target @5min 4.600s
  ;windscribe-cli.service @5min 3.178s +1.421s
    ;network-online.target @5min 3.154s
      ;network.target @5min 3.154s
        ;ifup@br0.service @3.021s
          ;sys-subsystem-net-devices-br0.device @3.020s

Last edited by Wishy; 16/03/2021 22:30.

Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649389
16/03/2021 16:53
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Barnacle is your man for this Wishy, he's the Linux guru.......... thumb

Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Countrycruising] #1649392
16/03/2021 20:16
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I know, he's helped me many a time along my Linux journey, I just thought I'd open it to the floor. I do realise that with the thread title I might as well be shouting Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice though. laugh


Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649393
16/03/2021 20:33
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I was thinking more After Eights.

Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649396
16/03/2021 21:46
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Is this a "Bingo" question?


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Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: DaveG] #1649398
16/03/2021 22:04
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Originally Posted by DaveG
Is this a "Bingo" question?


It is if I ask it!

Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649476
19/03/2021 17:16
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Indeed - if it ain't Mr C there's no bingo to see! (number 72)

1. Someone querying the whereabouts of their Club gift
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...3&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
2. A thread suggesting that an FCCUK event should be more towards at least two different compass directions (eg. it is not South enough and it is not West enough)

Events and Meets

3. Someone organising an event that they subsequently suggest they cannot make.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=618987&fpart=3
4. Football being a reason for non-attendance at a meet (rugby or soccer)
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...amp;page=0&fpart=3&vc=1&nt=2
5. Someone suggesting a meet should be arranged in their area – but not volunteering to do it.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=197365&page=1#Post197365

General Discussion

6. A Powerfiat thank you post
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...3&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
7. Poor service from a FIAT garage
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...1&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
8. Someone asking why they can't post pictures

9. An OP with a query about 'breaks'? (spelling important)
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthrea...ber=277840&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD
10. What tyre size 205 or 225, with an associated debate on traction.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthrea...ber=286415&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD

or

http://www.fccuk.org/forum/ubbthrea...ber=293600&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD

11. A new female forum member starting a post and receiving a string of 10 replies without contribution from her.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...4&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
12. An all caps post (before it is deleted)
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...age=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=#Post205088
13. A thread that refers to the colour murple by at least three different names
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=D001&Number=234068&Searchpage=1&Main=233599&Words=%2Bmurple+%2Bblue&topic=&Search=true#Post234068
14. A reference to the mythical 240 BHP for the standard LE
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...le&topic=&Search=true#Post209291
15. Who has the fastest coupe on the forum?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=245816&page=0&fpart=all&vc=1
16. Which is the best polish/wax/shampoo?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...7&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
17. A thread seeking advice following being caught for speeding with responses that include go to peppipoo and you broke the law, accept the consequences

18. Malaysian “new” coupes
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...ay&topic=&Search=true#Post203866
19. Is this the new FIAT coupe? Conclusion - no.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...4&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
20. Bootlid deposits snow into the car

21. Two separate frozen handbrake threads started within a week

22. What is the wire underneath the drivers seat for?

23. A “humorous” reference to T-cut to remedy a serious prang.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...2&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
24. A thread recommending using and not using T-cut.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=208667&an=0&page=0#Post208667
25. A thread covering which is better, air-con or climate control and which have I got

26. An "Is a strut brace really worth buying?" thread.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...ce&topic=&Search=true#Post206604
27. Seeking a yellow plus
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...6&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
Advice and FAQs

28. Do I need a red key?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=262720&an=0&page=1#Post262720
29. Someone asking "What should I look for when buying a coupe?" being pointed politely towards the guide;
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=254548&an=0&page=0#Post254548
30. Which is better an LE or a Plus?

31. Which is better 16v(t) or 20v(t)?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=224903&an=0&page=0#Post224903
32. Which is better Turbo or NA

33. Someone slating the search engine, to be told how good it actually is.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=243977&an=0&page=0#Post243977
34. LPG and Citroen Xantias being mentioned in the same thread
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Z001&Number=267682&Searchpage=1&Main=72462&Words=%2Bxantia+%2Blpg&topic=&Search=true#Post267682
35. A cheapest insurer query being referred back to the list of insurers sticky
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...4&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
Technical Issues

36. A which oil do you recommend thread
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...0&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
37. A post on Cabin noises - in which they get told to turn up the radio/ignore it

38. Will these wheels fit?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...1&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
39. A post from bockers disparaging alarms
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=204803&an=0&page=0#Post204803
40. Cambelt identified as an engine out job

41. A brake squeal thread – with reference to rodents of some description

42. Temperamental central locking
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...5&an=0&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD
43. My injector light comes on
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=200189

44. A rough idle thread
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...9&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
45. Smoke - is it my turbo?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...5&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
46. DIY Wheel Refurb - it took 33 (eg) hours of my time, was it worth it?

47. How do I turn the airbag light off?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...7&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
48. Where is the jacking point?

49. Faulty alarm - provided the OP does not know what alarm they have and it is then identified as Meta

50. Air-con doesn't work
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...9&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
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51. A de-badging the coop thread that mentions hairdryers.

52. A styling thread slating a person's styling choices but signing off politely about each to their own and all that though
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...2&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
53. What size are the front speakers?

54. Querying gas bonnet struts being cheaper than the older style

Marketplace

55. A Group Buy on big rear brakes.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...p;page=0&fpart=all&vc=1&nt=2
56. Offering proper cash as some sort of incentive (that's cash, yes cash!)
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...7&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
57. Why can't I sell my car on the forum?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...1&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
58. An HID group buy
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...1&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
59. An ex-Coupe owner coming back to the fold
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...age=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=#Post205699
Anything Else

60. A supercar that appears to utilise a part from the Coupe
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...6&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
61. 9/11 conspiracy;
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...8&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
62. A chinchilla double entendre;
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=203852&page=0&fpart=3&vc=1
63. A thread with an unrevealing title that contains the word “true” and at least one “ha” and has a reference somewhere to hair colour for daywalkers.

64. Someone asking what to replace the coop with.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...0&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
65. A thread questioning the actions of mods which has 3 replies on the trot from 3 different mods.

66. Why has my post been deleted
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=212874&an=0&page=0#Post212874
67. A 419 scam
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...5&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
68. What does LSLO mean?
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...0&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
69. A duplicated birthday thread
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=223311&an=0&page=0#Post223311
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=223643&an=0&page=0#Post223643
70. CarlT your inbox is full
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...0&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
71. A posting being quoted in full accompanied only by a single smiley.
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat...8&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
72. Jim Clennell requiring IT assistance
http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=216723&an=0&page=0#Post216723


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Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Emjay] #1649487
19/03/2021 23:34
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Wow, even what I can see on the bottom bit of that list as I type this brings back memories. laugh

I was often in stitches at the antics of Willy Chin.

LSLO, possibly one of the worst computer games I've ever played and I had a ZX81.

CarlT your inbox is full.

And yes, last but not least #72.


Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649488
19/03/2021 23:40
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Originally Posted by Wishy
Wow, even what I can see on the bottom bit of that list as I type this brings back memories. laugh

I was often in stitches at the antics of Willy Chin.

LSLO, possibly one of the worst computer games I've ever played and I had a ZX81.

CarlT your inbox is full.

And yes, last but not least #72.

tongue


Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649489
19/03/2021 23:51
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Originally Posted by Wishy
Originally Posted by Wishy
Wow, even what I can see on the bottom bit of that list as I type this brings back memories. laugh

I was often in stitches at the antics of Willy Chin.

LSLO, possibly one of the worst computer games I've ever played and I had a ZX81.

CarlT your inbox is full.

And yes, last but not least #72.

tongue

Bingo


Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649497
20/03/2021 10:47
20/03/2021 10:47
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I hate systemd with a vengeance... it's the MS way of doing stuff, shoving it all into one big blob of code that makes it difficult if not impossible to make sense of any issues. The idea is that everything happens at once, instead of one after the other, thus speeding up the boot...

I agree it's a network issue, but don't know where to start with that... but I note a systemd update was issued this morning for mint, which might be worth checking?

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Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: barnacle] #1649541
21/03/2021 23:32
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I did look this morning but didn't see anything, I'm not on that machine to check now though. Another possibility is that as it was definitely after the Bios update, some some setting has changed to default that's affected this.

As the cherry on the cake, the new CPU that I did the change for came DOA so that's been sent back for a replacement. If the new one works fine then I'll be able to look at later Bioses/Bios's/Bioss (plural?). The one I upgraded to was the last one that would support my old CPU (which is back in now) and the new one at the same time. If the replacement works fine I have a few more options that are more recent.


Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649542
21/03/2021 23:37
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I did look this morning but didn't see anything, I'm not on that machine to check now though. Another possibility is that as it was definitely after the Bios update, some some setting has changed to default that's affected this.

As the cherry on the cake, the new CPU that I did the change for came DOA so that's been sent back for a replacement. If the new one works fine then I'll be able to look at later Bioses/Bios's/Bioss (plural?). The one I upgraded to was the last one that would support my old CPU (which is back in now) and the new one at the same time. If the replacement works fine I have a few more options that are more recent.


Up yours Photobucket.
Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649543
21/03/2021 23:37
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I can say that again.


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Re: Linux Mint Boot issue [Re: Wishy] #1649802
04/04/2021 18:50
04/04/2021 18:50
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Sort of fixed. I put the replacement CPU in today and boot time has gone down to 1min 18s without changing anything else, I know it's a faster CPU but it's not *that* much faster!. Still slower than Windows so there must be something up but at least I don't have to plan in advance when I want to use Linux. Networking is the still the main cuplrit at 35 seconds but it certainly beats 5 minutes.

There must be something in that particular version of the Bios that doesn't agree with a Linux/Pinnacle Ridge combination. I did ask ASRock but they didn't bother replying. I was stuck with that Bios as it was the latest version that would support my existing Pinnacle Ridge and the new Matisse. Now that I don't need Pinnacle Ridge support anymore, I can look at the newer Bios versions for my board.

He giveth and he taketh away! In amongst this I've discovered that half of my RAM has died so the 1min 18 above may not be a fair comparison. Another RMA it is then.


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