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The Ashes

Posted By: Jim_Clennell

The Ashes - 23/11/2017 05:30

Discuss...
Posted By: barnacle

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 06:19

Ashes to ashes,
Dust to dust
If you don't wash your coupé
It will all turn to rust.
Posted By: bockers

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 10:04

Not a bad start from England. Need to get a total over 300 in the first innings I think in order to pressurize the Aussies.

The Aussies have what looks to be a weak team on paper, recalling blowers that have not played test cricket for years.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 14:40

Blowers? He's retired laugh

DYAC laugh

Minimum 350 I think.....

Very impressed by the way Vince and Stoneman have stuck it out. I can forgive Root for a failure after so much continued form up to date but not sure about Cook - I suppose he will continue to open for the duration of the series but imagine he will hang up his boots before too long. Let's see how his performance in the slips goes.

Yes the Aussies have been too much mouth in the warm-up and if not careful could fall hard if they don't come up to expectations, not a comfortable place with their super-critical fans.

I loved Tuffer's nervous giggle "I'm all goosebumps" at the very first ball of play laugh
Posted By: H_R

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 16:17

Didn't realise it had started yet!

This must be one of the lowest low key advertised series I can remember!

Not seen this anywhere is it just on sky this year?
Posted By: barnacle

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 18:12

It's on Radio 4 in the wee small hours...
Posted By: Boosted7

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 20:31

I'm currently on a train traveling from the gold coast to Brisbane central. It is packed with cricket fans - mostly Aussie of course, a few barmy army too. I wish I was heading to the Gabba today rather than to work frown

Match seems evenly poised at the moment, looking forward to today's action even though I'll have to settle for listening to the radio coverage.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 21:00

Evenly poised seems to be the word. Crucial start to play tomorrow. If Australia run through England with an almost new ball, I think England's early good showing will count for nought. If England can get to 350, it could signal a classic series. Game on!
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 23/11/2017 21:27

Originally Posted By barnacle
It's on Radio 4 in the wee small hours...



Neil!

R5L Sports extra!`

(Don't think they'll send you any unwanted emails wink )
Posted By: Boosted7

Re: The Ashes - 24/11/2017 01:52

Promising start for England this morning, but a bit of a collapse has brought the Aussies back into it. You'd have to bet that 300 isn't going to be enough on this wicket, but it's something to play with. Should be a fascinating afternoon of cricket.
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 24/11/2017 03:07

And, of course, it's a lovely warm Spring day here, he says dressed in shorts and T shirt. Hope it's not too hot for our visitors.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 24/11/2017 05:34

Decent start by England's bowlers. Still fancy Australia to take a first innings lead if Smith can keep his wicket intact.
At least it seems like a proper contest.
Posted By: bockers

Re: The Ashes - 24/11/2017 07:46

Nah, they have no tail, and unlike last home series they have no Brad Hadin. I reckon they will be 50 short.

This series is the first I have not been able to watch. Maybe see if BT sport is on a Black Friday deal frown
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 25/11/2017 19:38

Well, that was more or less what I expected. If England can keep their heads (literally!) tomorrow, they could leave Australia chasing an uncomfortable total, even if not an imposing one.
I suspect, however, there will be a collapse and the Aussies will wrap up a comfortable enough victory by lunch on the last day at the latest.
If that is the result, it still won't be a disaster.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 26/11/2017 06:25

Damn. That's a bit more accurate a prediction than I imagined.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 26/11/2017 09:35

Yes, it was the kiss of death indeed Jim.

If the umpires are going to allow four bouncers an over as happened with England's tail I'm very interested in the outcome....a return of bodyline perhaps?
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 26/11/2017 21:22

A bit of cloud cover here this morning with a max temperature of 29 predicted. But then the match should be over before it gets too hot with only 56 runs needed for us to win! smile
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 27/11/2017 01:41

A win to Australia with 10 wickets in hand.

One has to be happy with that. yipee
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 27/11/2017 06:32

A cricket lesson for England. Effectively, Steve Smith was the difference. England need to learn from his example.
Posted By: bockers

Re: The Ashes - 27/11/2017 09:12

It's great to see that my predictions are as reliable as ever.... reliably rubbish laugh
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 05/12/2017 19:34

No sport can match test cricket for suspense or tension. I fully expect England to lose tomorrow, but the fact that they *could* win is brilliant.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 05/12/2017 20:16

But England must *believe* that they can win...someone, somewhere, will break records - why not now?

Invoke the spirit of Headingley!
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 06/12/2017 05:38

Meh!
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 06/12/2017 05:41

Another good result in Adelaide earlier today with Australia winning by 120 runs! yipee beer
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: The Ashes - 06/12/2017 10:57

Was awake at 3.30. By about 3.45 i wished I hadn’t bothered.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 06/12/2017 11:14

I too awoke at 3.05.... frown

What has been learnt then?

Maybe that Stoneman and Malan are worth persevering with but I'm not convinced at all with Vince at any position, let alone the troublesome no.3 slot. Gary Balance has to be a consideration here but he has the baggage of being selected and dropped again a number of times which may play on his mind. Having said that, Marsh seemed to do ok for Australia!

It's astonishing that it's taken till Jimmy Anderson is 35 years old to bag his first 5-for in Australia....
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 16/12/2017 09:25

Looks like another great day at the WACA with a double century to Steve Smith and a 300+ partnership with Mitchell Marsh!!
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 16/12/2017 09:54

Michael Vaughan echoed Boyc's mantra about needing to plan ahead to develop a bowler of real pace and a first-class spinner.

If Aussies are used to playing 90+mph then our England's mid-80's attack seems like a holiday.

The lack of swing conditions downunder doesn't help England - only that session in the day-nighter at Adelaide worked for them - but we still lost!
Posted By: barnacle

Re: The Ashes - 16/12/2017 19:49

Do the balls swing the other way south of the equator?
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 17/12/2017 00:50

Originally Posted By barnacle
Do the balls swing the other way south of the equator?


No, but doesn't the water go down the plughole the other way?
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: The Ashes - 17/12/2017 08:29

It does. Coriolis says so.

We’re now hoping for plenty of evidence of this tomorrow down the various drains at the WACA...
Posted By: Possum

Re: The Ashes - 18/12/2017 22:27

MRS, looks like it happened with a win to Australia by an innings and 41 runs. yipee
Posted By: bockers

Re: The Ashes - 21/12/2017 08:15

suicide
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 27/12/2017 15:07

Better at last, though to be fair Aussies are minus a bowler and a half. Still I can imagine one super sigh of relief from one senior player who has at last posted a 3-figure score.

Not having this 'on view' I can only imagine the bustle which Tim Curran appears to be bringing to the attack and the beneficial effect on his team-mates' morale. We're not doing so well in the spin section though and Moeen's talents don't seem well-suited to this environment. I wonder if they'll dabble with Mason Crane for the last test.

192-2 is a promising start though, 300-odd runs tomorrow and we might not have to bat again!
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: The Ashes - 28/12/2017 09:34

Very promising despite some dodgy umpiring.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: The Ashes - 07/01/2018 22:16

Ok, understandably there's not been a lot to crow about as we face one glum day after another from Downunder.

What is senseless though is the complete blind eye apparently turned to the Deputy Commissioner's newspaper advice to the public, and particularly people participating in sporting activities, to seriously consider the wisdom of continuing in record-breaking temperatures - tennis for example has a cut-off point of 40C and by 10 a.m. yesterday that watershed had already been breached.

Now we have an England captain whom the ECB seem to think might bat "later".....have they really NO idea what heatstroke is and its associated recovery time? rolleyes

Money before owt else rolleyes
Posted By: bockers

Re: The Ashes - 08/01/2018 07:48

Fitting end to a truly awful England test performance. There are too many players too sure of their places and under-performing game after game.

Anyone see the fantastic Mike Atherton talks to Mike Brierly? Wonderful program giving an insight to the brain of one of sports best captains. One interesting fact was about the Botham ashes, which England won, and how different the side loooked at the end of the series. Now I don't want to go back the the farcical 90s when captains changed game on game but a middle ground would be good. Players need to be looking over their shoulder, this is what Eddie Jones has changed in the England Rugby team. You don't need to make wholesale changes but hose in the team need to know they are only as good as their latest 2-3 games.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: The Ashes - 08/01/2018 19:09

I sort of agree, bockers, but that supposes that you have a pool of players that are good enough to make the grade. England, I suspect, don't.
Posted By: Mansilla

Re: The Ashes - 08/01/2018 19:47

The problem to my eyes is partly this certainty of place, but also that we have a lot of players who are very effective in English conditions.

It is, therefore, something of a shame that overseas tours are played overseas...
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