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track day advice #1322611
06/03/2012 15:20
06/03/2012 15:20

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Looking for some advise from regular track goers? what sort of figures should i be running/looking out for/getting concerned at, for;

oil temps - (the guide suggests looking out for 110°C - concern 130°C)

tyre pressures -

wheel bolt torques -

water temps -

intake temps -

EGT temps -

providing all these can be monitored.

Cheers
Ninja

Last edited by Begbie; 06/03/2012 15:44.
Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322613
06/03/2012 15:23
06/03/2012 15:23

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Water temps.. around 90 to 95 (i have seen near 100 but thats with both fans going mental.

wheel bolts, i go FT mate..

oil temps - between 90 & 100

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322619
06/03/2012 15:41
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Here's my tuppence worth from my many track days:

oil temps - (the guide suggests looking out for 110°C - concern 130°C) - anything in this range is fine operating wise. In the uk climate, I typically let things cool down and the oil temp is never above 120. When at Spa last year in 30+ degrees I saw it climb above 130 (then I rested it up). Lol @ Marco between 90-95 hehe

tyre pressures - very much depends on conditions and type and profile of tyres, and preference! Whilst always lower, I've run as little as 20 psi on fronts and 22 rears.

wheel bolt torques - 115 lb/ft.. Check between sessions!

water temps - anything between 90-100

intake temps - uber paranoia

EGT temps - uber paranoia

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322625
06/03/2012 15:52
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just what i was looking for, cheers guys

Ninja

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322649
06/03/2012 17:00
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my oil temp never goes that high no matter how much i rag the hell out of it.

even at donny i didnt see any where over 100 degree's..

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322658
06/03/2012 17:27
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Originally Posted By: Marco20ValveT
my oil temp never goes that high no matter how much i rag the hell out of it.

even at donny i didnt see any where over 100 degree's..


dodgey guage laugh


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Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322666
06/03/2012 17:45
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Dodgy right foot more like!

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322679
06/03/2012 18:22
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Mario... You can comment kitty litter boy!! laugh

Homodan, I shall prove this at spa!!
When I have all my ponies running together!!

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322688
06/03/2012 18:35
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Originally Posted By: Marco20ValveT
Homodan, I shall prove this at spa!!
When I have all my ponies running together!!


I'd still pass you, Pat driving


Re: track day advice [Re: Hovedan] #1322710
06/03/2012 19:20
06/03/2012 19:20
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How many ponies Pat ?


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Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322715
06/03/2012 19:37
06/03/2012 19:37

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I may find out in the 22nd laugh

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1322729
06/03/2012 20:22
06/03/2012 20:22

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tyre pressures -

wheel bolt torques -

water temps -

intake temps -

EGT temps -

providing all these can be monitored.

I use between 2 bar to 2.2 bar at the track.
Water temp never goes above 90 on the widget,if the oil temp gets above 95 i do a cool down lap and come in.
Egt,s vary on the size of the turbo AR and the exhaust.

Let me know where your going Rich and i will book it too just so i can humiliate you laugh

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1325609
16/03/2012 13:17
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what geometry settings are people using? camber/caster etc

Ninja

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1325718
16/03/2012 21:24
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Originally Posted By: ninja
what geometry settings are people using? camber/caster etc

Ninja

Dont be a pooof.

Trackday advice is:-
Foot to the floor,and make sure your quicker than anyone else.
Settings and tricksy suspension is for people like Marco who try to make up for talent laugh

BTW make sure you steer clear of Daz who will be there in a green Bravo 20vt.

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1325719
16/03/2012 21:41
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Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
Originally Posted By: ninja
what geometry settings are people using? camber/caster etc

Ninja

Dont be a pooof.

Trackday advice is:-
Foot to the floor,and make sure your quicker than anyone else.
Settings and tricksy suspension is for people like Marco who try to make up for talent laugh

BTW make sure you steer clear of Daz who will be there in a green Bravo 20vt.


.... and chicanes are a figment of JBT's imagination. Just like rallycross wink rolleyes

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1325724
16/03/2012 22:08
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You loved it Tim,
Never heard you and Proccy so quiet.

Now thats how we drive in the Midlands. laugh

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1325978
17/03/2012 22:32
17/03/2012 22:32

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cheers john rolleyes
Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo

Foot to the floor,and make sure your quicker than anyone else.

easily said with 500+ ponies driving although i dont think that 'whatever, im just gonna hoon it around' is an helpful answer for the guy setting up my alignment/suspension smile

Ninja

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1326074
18/03/2012 09:34
18/03/2012 09:34

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Front camber -1 or -1.5 degree

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1326090
18/03/2012 11:07
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or 2.0 degrees for just a track car laugh

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1326104
18/03/2012 12:50
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how acurate are these

camber gauge - ebay link

worth a purchase?

Ninja

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1326493
19/03/2012 18:25
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Never used them tbh so cant comment.
I have to go to a place in Notts to get mine done as there very thorough.

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1326514
19/03/2012 19:15
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Originally Posted By: ninja
how acurate are these

camber gauge - ebay link

worth a purchase?

Ninja

the gauge is probably accurate. What you need to know is how level the ground is the car is sitting on when the measurements are taken. Where does the gauge attach. Its the angle of the wheel you are measuring, most gauges mount on the wheel edge.

Re: track day advice [Re: ] #1326566
19/03/2012 21:04
19/03/2012 21:04

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according to the pictures, the gauge is magnetic, so the hub or disc.

just thinking it might be worth keeping in the tool box for that price, and save me some money in the long run smile

Ninja


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