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#1603101 - 22/06/2017 08:47 How to install timing belt 20v
talal Offline
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i remove timing belt and cam without make mark there
Now I want to return it
But I do not know how ?


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#1603102 - 22/06/2017 08:53 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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you should look at the 'How To...' guides, Talal...

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#1603145 - 22/06/2017 21:08 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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sorry
I do not understand
What you mean

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#1603160 - 22/06/2017 23:19 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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How to link

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#1603169 - 23/06/2017 01:49 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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#1603892 - 04/07/2017 07:50 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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there is mark in crankshaft

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about camshaft pulley only at the right side there is one mark like hole #1
i put cam bearing in first line in top #2
is that right or wrong ?

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#1603895 - 04/07/2017 09:00 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
Countrycruising Offline
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Originally Posted By talal
there is mark in crankshaft

click to enlarge



about camshaft pulley only at the right side there is one mark like hole #1
i put cam bearing in first line in top #2
is that right or wrong ?

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The crank looks to be in the right place but the cams are wrong, I'd be concerned that the engine has suffered damage with bent valves now and I'd remove the cams and run a compression test on each cylinder, if they're is 150psi on each cylinder refit the cam with number 1 cylinder at TDC and use the cam locks, the marks on the pulley wheels won't help, locks and a TDC gauge is the correct method.
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#1604002 - 05/07/2017 23:21 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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I've seen a lot less of these than Joe but agree with him that the cams are out of position relative to one another.
This thread has all the cambelt guides on it.
Cambelt thread

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#1604260 - 10/07/2017 07:57 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: Countrycruising]
talal Offline
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The crank looks to be in the right place but the cams are wrong, I'd be concerned that the engine has suffered damage with bent valves now and I'd remove the cams and run a compression test on each cylinder, if they're is 150psi on each cylinder refit the cam with number 1 cylinder at TDC and use the cam locks, the marks on the pulley wheels won't help, locks and a TDC gauge is the correct method.


when i turn crankshaft i remove the camshaft
i know if turn that the valves is broken
my problem now with camshaft
because no mark there
if anybody have picture for camshaft maybe i can replay

and i am sorry about my english language

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#1604267 - 10/07/2017 09:46 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
GrahamL Offline
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I'll email you the more detailed PDF , maybe that will help, but you really need the cam locking + TDC tools.

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#1604347 - 11/07/2017 16:27 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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cam locking + TDC tools.
i buy them from ebay uk
after 7 to 12 days reach to my country

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#1604605 - 17/07/2017 07:59 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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i have 2 camshaft locking tool

K1 + K2

where i put this ?

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#1604607 - 17/07/2017 08:14 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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K1 on inlet cam D, K2 on exhaust cam 2.
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#1604784 - 19/07/2017 19:30 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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i have space
i do not remember what is there before ?
if anything there what is name ?
and what is number of engine oil and how many liters ?
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Edited by talal (19/07/2017 19:35)

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#1604789 - 19/07/2017 21:19 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
Countrycruising Offline
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The cam variator runs in a shell bearing, you're missing the top half.
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#1604805 - 20/07/2017 04:46 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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any link for that
because i will buy that's

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#1604813 - 20/07/2017 09:39 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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Loc: FCSS 01684 593187
Part number 71730023, still showing as available from Fiat.
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#1604826 - 20/07/2017 11:59 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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do you have link for that

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#1604827 - 20/07/2017 12:12 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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#1604887 - 21/07/2017 16:35 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/parts/147_Variator.shtml

i see this same number : 71730023
but this for Alfa Romeo

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#1605438 - 01/08/2017 11:08 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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i buy that
one with hole on top

i fix that on top or down ?

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#1605481 - 02/08/2017 02:52 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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The shell has locating tags, no holes so they will fit either way, top or bottom.
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#1605597 - 04/08/2017 10:04 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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thank you everyone
I've run the car
I need a map to install the pipes for radiator


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AOXiFjjyxA

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#1605598 - 04/08/2017 10:28 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
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Well done thumb
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#1605755 - 08/08/2017 00:08 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
GrahamL Offline
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Registered: 17/12/2005
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Originally Posted By talal
I need a map to install the pipes for radiator


There isn't really a diagram for that in any of the manuals. Which hoses are you stuck with? If you take a pic of all the ones you aren't sure of we can probably explain where they should go.

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#1605849 - 10/08/2017 09:26 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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Registered: 03/01/2014
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Loc: muscat, oman, ruwi
i fixed it

now i waiting one coil because is broken

what is oil for gear ?
because oil still there from 2011

and my gear stick is free
i will make video for thats

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#1605856 - 10/08/2017 12:31 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
GrahamL Offline
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Gearbox oil is 75w90. It takes 1.75L to top up (via dipstick tube) after draining if you open both drain points, or just the one at the back on the diff.

Unless the car has done super high mileage I wouldn't change the gearbox oil just cause it's 6 years old though.

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#1605923 - 11/08/2017 09:58 Re: How to install timing belt 20v [Re: talal]
talal Offline
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thank you sir

about gear stick is free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3TI4sSedgE

i think bushing ?
if bushing from where can get that ?

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