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#1605737 - 07/08/2017 20:00 4G home data.
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Registered: 25/03/2006
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The home I'm moving to is currently 2 miles from Malmesbury- a town where Mr Dyson plans to create 3500 jobs before 2020 - and in a village. So I'm not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Anyhow, the best broadband I can hope for is about 4Mbps IF I pay for fibre or 3Mbps if I don't. A couple of the suppliers have been honest enough to say that fibre in such circumstances is a waste of money. EE got me thinking though. She said that I had a great 4G signal where I was. The thing that put me off was the cost and the data limit - £30 for 30Gb.

Anyhow, today on HUKD I noticed that EE are doing an offer of that package half price on a sim-only deal. So I signed up for one.

Questions:
1. What, if any, are the downsides of this?
2. Any recommendations for 4G routers? I'm thinking a mains router for best signal within the house? Some I've seen display data used, speed and time period - seems useful.
3. I've signed up for ADSL broadband too (3Mbps unlimited) for basically the cost of the phone line rental (£18/m). I'm thinking that I can then use this for all the downloading stuff where speed doesn't matter (back-ups, audiobooks, email etc) and reserve my 30Gb allowance for speed-sensitive stuff (FaceTime, kids gaming etc). Does this sound sensible? I'm half wondering if I should have signed up for two SIMs and dumped the ADSL.

Any other thoughts? How BT are going to meet their commitment of 99% of people on 10Mbps minimum by 2020, I've no idea.
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#1605738 - 07/08/2017 21:13 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Rich, I did much the same when we moved in here - no BT Broadband for a month. I took the Vodafone 50gb for £25 offer and bought a TP-Link Archer 4G router for about £100 in Maplins. It all worked very well (apart from when stepsons streamed videos/music). Now we have traditional Broadband and I've set up the Archer in our unit.
As long as you aren't over-ambitious with your use, it should be fine.


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#1605749 - 07/08/2017 22:21 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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<stands back in shock as Jim gives technical help!>
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#1605750 - 07/08/2017 22:44 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Thanks, Jim, that's helpful.
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#1605751 - 07/08/2017 23:00 Re: 4G home data. [Re: barnacle]
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<stands back in shock as Jim gives technical help!>


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#1605762 - 08/08/2017 07:49 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Pffft! It's like I have some kind of reputation or something...
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#1605767 - 08/08/2017 10:18 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Most of the time at home I tether my phone for 4G (Three network). This speed and reliability are both great, but there is latency which means it's not great for gaming.

The reason I have to do this is because we have Virgin cable and there's so much contention in my area that at peak times the speed is barely quicker than dial-up.

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#1605769 - 08/08/2017 12:17 Re: 4G home data. [Re: Dan]
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I have a 4g wifi hot spot from 3 in the Motorhome so that we have internet anywhere. Works great most of the time - had internet access all the time in France but struggled to get a consistent signal in Clitheroe last weekend crazy

What speed internet do you have from Virgin Dan. We have virgin and it's pretty quick all the time? (I think it's 100Mb)
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#1605792 - 08/08/2017 22:32 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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if you want to be really clever you could aggregate both connections
https://recombu.com/digital/article/multipath-combines-4g-home-broadband-up-to-100mbps_M12221.html#
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#1605796 - 09/08/2017 07:34 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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I was thinking just now about the possibility of doing exactly what this does. I can't find any details of this product 4 years after the crowdfunding so I can only assume the product itself was a flop. Apart from IP, I don't see what stops a standard 4G router doing exactly this.
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#1605798 - 09/08/2017 08:44 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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There are many other products that do this, we have been using these in the enterprise for quite some time.

Looks for SD WAN, WAN Aggregation or WAN Bonding

I will have a look later to see if there are any other cut down consumer versions


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#1605800 - 09/08/2017 09:25 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Thank you. That's half the trouble with this tech is knowing the jargon for the thing you're looking for in order to look for it (if that makes any sense). Even if it were less sophisticated and you just turned on "warp drive" for the times that you needed it.
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#1605802 - 09/08/2017 09:43 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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This seems to have at least some of that functionality

https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/27722-d-link-dwr-953-xpol/

Anybody any recommendations as to whether an external aerial is normally worthwhile? Understand that it will depend upon the particular circumstances (building, location of router, 4G signal etc). Trouble is, until I have a router set up, I don't know if it'll be good enough. I'm assuming that, in most circumstances, it's not required but then I also want to squeeze every last drop of speed out of it I can.
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#1605811 - 09/08/2017 13:21 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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That is spot on for what you need. The external antenna is worth getting.

Its quite nice as it lets you load balance between the two networks and also enables you to do QOS (Quality of Service) - QOS Lets you prioritise certain traffic over others e.g. VOIP over Streaming as an example
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#1605812 - 09/08/2017 13:22 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Good price also thumb
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#1605816 - 09/08/2017 14:09 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Very good - thank you for the help. You're obviously not quite as technically gifted as Jim but very helpful all the same... wink
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#1605819 - 09/08/2017 15:25 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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I can only aspire to be of Jim's level one day laugh
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#1605820 - 09/08/2017 15:31 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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I only use EE 4G when at home in the sticks in N.Ireland.
It's been faultless for many years, I am cancelling broadband which gives pitiful amounts .
I'll get my mum a prepaid deal for her iPad and anyone visiting can tether from it!
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#1605844 - 10/08/2017 08:06 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MarioCirillo]
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Originally Posted By MarioCirillo
I can only aspire to be of Jim's level one day laugh


Fact!
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#1605930 - 11/08/2017 13:06 Re: 4G home data. [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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tongue
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