Fiat Coupe Forum
- Founded by Kayjey & James Northam
- Funded by the Club for the benefit of all owners
Fiat Coupe Club UK
join the club
Fiat Coupe Forum
 
» Announced
    Posting images


» Related sites
    Main club site
    fiatcoupe.net


» External data
    owners listed
 
Who's Online Now
3 registered members (F1GHT3R, ep1, 1 invisible), 325 guests, and 4 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums69
Topics113,543
Posts1,340,442
Members1,785
Most Online731
Jan 14th, 2020
Top Posters(All Time)
barnacle 33,522
stan 32,122
Theresa 23,296
PeteP 21,482
bockers 21,070
JimO 17,917
Nigel 17,366
Edinburgh 16,662
RSS Feeds
Club Events
Club Information
Track Events
Rolling Road/RWYB
Social Events
Non-UK Events
Coupé Related Chat
Coupé Spotting
Coupé News/Press
Buying/Selling Advice
Insuring a Coupé
Basic FAQ's
How to Guides
Forum Issues
Technical Problems
General Maintenance
Styling
Tuning
Handling
ICE and Alarm
Coupés for Sale
Coupés Wanted
Parts for Sale
Parts Wanted
Group Buys
Business Forum
Other Vehicles for Sale/Wanted
Other Items for Sale/Wanted
Haggling/Offers
Ebay links
Other Cars
Other Websites
General Chat
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Blade Runner 2049 #1608892
03/10/2017 09:21
03/10/2017 09:21
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Countrycruising Offline OP
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising  Offline OP
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Forum veteran

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
I'll be seeing this Thursday, the trailers have looked awesome so I hope I've not watched all the good parts already chinny

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1608913
03/10/2017 16:34
03/10/2017 16:34
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,522
Berlin
barnacle Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
barnacle  Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
Forum Demigod

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,522
Berlin
Don't tell me the ending, just if it's good smile


[Linked Image]
Don't get no respect! Coupe Fiat 1994-2000 - an owner's guide <-- clicky!
Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1608914
03/10/2017 16:45
03/10/2017 16:45
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,192
Bristol, UK
H
Hovedan Offline
Forum is my life
Hovedan  Offline
Forum is my life
H

Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,192
Bristol, UK
Going to try to sneak a viewing of this on Thursday too!

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609047
06/10/2017 09:09
06/10/2017 09:09
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Countrycruising Offline OP
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising  Offline OP
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Forum veteran

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Yes it was very good, not going to say any more smile

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609093
06/10/2017 21:35
06/10/2017 21:35

J
Jef_uk
Unregistered
Jef_uk
Unregistered
J



Re-watched my copy of the original need to arrange my self to see this.

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609152
07/10/2017 21:24
07/10/2017 21:24
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,522
Berlin
barnacle Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
barnacle  Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
Forum Demigod

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,522
Berlin
Excellent except for two things: (a) it could use half an hour chopping out, and (b) I'm bloody certain the sound designers and mixers didn't intend it to make the audience's ears bleed.

<rant>
Dear cinema owners, turn the fsking thing down a bit, perhaps to a level when your output amps aren't clipping and people can hear the dialogue.
</rant>


[Linked Image]
Don't get no respect! Coupe Fiat 1994-2000 - an owner's guide <-- clicky!
Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609153
07/10/2017 22:07
07/10/2017 22:07
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
jimboy Offline
Club Member 857
jimboy  Offline
Club Member 857
Forum is my life

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
What is the draw about sci fi films like blade runner? Seriously, it's a pretendy film, a lot of films are pretendy, but what's the big deal here? Just asking... coffee


I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609155
08/10/2017 06:08
08/10/2017 06:08
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,522
Berlin
barnacle Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
barnacle  Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
Forum Demigod

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,522
Berlin
*Every* film is pretendy, no?

Even a romcom chickflick is discussing a made up world, but it's not really asking you to think about it. A thud and blunder James Bond/Jason Bourne whatever invites you to put yourself in the place of the protagonist; a level more involving.

Space opera - most science fiction - is just cowboys and indians in space, or (surprisingly often) even older stories translated - the Odessy, the Aeniad, pirates.

But *good* science fiction (I favour Cambell's definition: it's a science fiction story if it doesn't work if the science isn't there) poses a question 'what if', builds a consistent world, and then drops the protagonist in the middle of it and lets him get on with it.

Blade Runner was taken from (inspired by?) a book called 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' by Philip K Dick. That was written in the sixties (so it's as old as you and me smile ) at a time when thermonuclear extinction was looking a serious likelihood; when the space race was on and no-one had got further than low earth orbit. The hippy thing was still going strong, as was racial separation in the states (and a lot of racial abuse over here). WW2 was a strong recent memory. Dick was living a hand to mouth existence, with his only income from his writing and according to his autobiography, eating cat food (illegal in the states).

And yet he wrote, at that time, a number of very thought provoking books concerning the nature or conciousness, of perception, and of reality... is what I see what really happened, or something that has been implanted in me? Am I really who I think I am? And who tells me what to think?

In 'Do Androids..' he describes a world where artificial people are created to do the more dangerous jobs in society; deliberately made stronger and more resilient than normal humans, but with the same drives and instincts. And a very short lifespan, years rather than decades; they're slaves. And some of them don't want to be... they rebel, and they get hunted down.

But hunting them down is a difficult and dangerous job itself - so what if the hunter is an android himself? And he doesn't know whether he is or not... how are his actions changed by that; what are his thoughts when he starts to wonder about it?

And to a large extent, unusually for Hollywood, Blade Runner got it right. A lot of the draw is from the action sequences; a lot from Ridley Scott's *amazing* vision of LA (apparently, in the 21st century, it rains all the time!); but they're just window dressing on the struggle of the main character. It's a film in which the audience is involved; the outcome is by no means obvious nor the way in which it will be achieved. And like many excellent films, it didn't crash the box office when it was first released but has generated its reputation in the forty year since then.

(I deliberately haven't discussed 2049 to avoid spoilers, but it takes the same themes and enlarges them.)


[Linked Image]
Don't get no respect! Coupe Fiat 1994-2000 - an owner's guide <-- clicky!
Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609156
08/10/2017 06:18
08/10/2017 06:18
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,852
Cambridge & Cotswolds
M
MeanRedSpider Offline
Je suis un Coupé
MeanRedSpider  Offline
Je suis un Coupé
M

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,852
Cambridge & Cotswolds
Where SF helps is that the authors can investigate issues and ideas without being constrained by current reality.

Films that were entirely realistic could potentially be incredibly dull and mundane viewing. I'm struggling to think of one. So it's all a matter of degree.

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609157
08/10/2017 06:36
08/10/2017 06:36
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
jimboy Offline
Club Member 857
jimboy  Offline
Club Member 857
Forum is my life

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
I did ask, yes..... laugh


Just to add, I do like pretendy films by the way.. smile

Last edited by jimboy; 08/10/2017 06:48.

I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609160
08/10/2017 08:12
08/10/2017 08:12
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Gripped Offline
Club member 1924
Gripped  Offline
Club member 1924
Forum is my job

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
“I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.”

nerd

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609763
16/10/2017 14:52
16/10/2017 14:52
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 11,159
,
S
samsite999 Offline
I AM a Coop
samsite999  Offline
I AM a Coop
S

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 11,159
,
Despite Joe falling asleep, my wife falling asleep, and jake falling asleep... I really enjoyed the film. Once we had removed the dribble from the OAP's.
The sound design was good but perhaps a little OTT on levels on a few occasions. I really enjoyed the cinematography. I found the plot a little, well anemic. Evil corp wants to do something that may, or may not be bad but villain is suitably evil and I saw the plot twist coming from quite far away.

The thing is, it tried, it tried to re-capture and expand the original theme and make it relevant to today. I suspect a great many people didn't watch the first and probably wont and you could get away with out doing so. It wanted to be about morality, it wanted to raise questions about the not to distant future. If you have watched the animatrix historical file I would argue it contains most of the premise for the film.

It wasn't as good as I wanted it to be, it had problems and was probably overly long and its passing was very slow, then quite fast then all of the things at once. But it was still good and just about worthy to contain blade runner as a title.

Re: Blade Runner 2049 [Re: Countrycruising] #1609768
16/10/2017 15:25
16/10/2017 15:25

G
GrahamL
Unregistered
GrahamL
Unregistered
G



At nearly 3 hours I'm not sure even this would tempt me back to the cinema but I'm looking forward to the blu-ray release.

I recently got this poster so that'll have to do for now:

click to enlarge

All of Denis Villeneuve's previous movies that I've seen have been great (well, apart from Arrival but that wasn't a problem with the direction). Sicario, Prisoners, Enemy, Polytechnique and Incendies, all well worth a watch.


Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1
(Release build 20190129)
PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.012s Queries: 14 (0.005s) Memory: 0.8029 MB (Peak: 0.9180 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-03-29 12:46:28 UTC