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#1609100 - 07/10/2017 08:56 Removing a sorry heap...
skulkin Online   happy
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Registered: 28/03/2010
Posts: 45
Loc: overlooking the sea, sussex

Hi all

Yes. I'd read 'what am i getting into when buying a cheap coupe'!!! So anyway, about 18 months or so ago I rented a transporter and drove up and collected a 20V NA coop from a [naturally trustworthy] vicar-to-the-queen-at-Balmoral that needed "minimal work to get it through the MOT" and trailered it all the way back to the south coast.

Unfortunately, the reality was that it was so rotten I had no other option but to scrap it - or break it in my spare time to try and at least recoup the transportation costs. Or in reality just remove and keep the parts as spares because I never get round to selling any!

Well anyway, what's left of it is in my garage and up against the wall on one side. Naturally the 2 wheels on the "space" side turn freely but at least the front one on the wall side won't budge. I'm sure you'll see why. Just wondering if anyone could advise me what to do, what to cut, what to break, etc in order to to free it so I can get it out and away so I can start using my garage again. I've WD40'ed it like mad with no joy. Is there a simple way? Sorry if it's blatantly obvious.

I tried to use the image popper thing but failed so here are direct links to pics of the offending side - IF I can do it right...

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag358/Skulkin2/5_zpsf4ipdxoc.jpg

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag358/Skulkin2/3_zpsch01b7f8.jpg

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag358/Skulkin2/4_zpsqwtlhvck.jpg

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag358/Skulkin2/2_zps05ehyec9.jpg

Cheers club :0)

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#1609101 - 07/10/2017 09:24 Re: Removing a sorry heap... [Re: skulkin]
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Hmm, I believe the Antikythera Mechanism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism) may be in better shape than that calliper, and it was underwater for two thousand years...

It's the pads locked onto the disc because the calliper and pistons have rusted up.

If you *can* start by removing the calliper itself (not the frame): there's nothing there to salvage so you can cut the brake line to release pressure; then remove the rubber covers top and bottom of the calliper (visible e.g. in the last image) and remove the slider bolts - a hex bolt as I recall. With those removed you will probably find the sliders have set in place but a suitable persuasion tool (https://www.canford.co.uk/EARTH-SPIKE-FITTING-TOOL) should get things moving - you want to move the calliper and brakes outwards and off the disk.

If that won't work, you're going to need a long bar for the leverage and a 19mm socket - ideally, hex not twelve-point for strength - on at least a half-inch drive. Use that on the two bolts that hold the calliper frame and then refer to the persuasion tool above.
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#1609113 - 07/10/2017 12:37 Re: Removing a sorry heap... [Re: skulkin]
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Cheers Barnacle

I learnt a life lesson. Not to research stuff before leaping in, I can't change my nature.. but rather that clergy can 'streeeetch' the truth too!

The Antikythera Machine (very interesting reference btw) may have been underwater for a while but it wasn't exposed to Scottish weather was it. Lol! [Apologies to Edinburgh, Dante G and , well the whole Scottish nation!].

Am just now limbering up before heading off to buy a 19mm hex socket with which to apply some 'persuasion'.

Thanks again :0)



Edited by skulkin (07/10/2017 12:47)

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#1609123 - 07/10/2017 14:41 Re: Removing a sorry heap... [Re: skulkin]
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Registered: 20/12/2005
Posts: 3017
Loc: S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Yep, having tinkered with my brakes I'd agree with mr B. Just undo the 2 caliper or caliper hanger bolts and then whack it with a hammer to remove from disk.

Advise a good wire brushing first to get a clear view of what's going on underneath all that rust !!


Edited by Gripped (07/10/2017 14:43)
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#1609201 - 08/10/2017 21:27 Re: Removing a sorry heap... [Re: skulkin]
AnnieMac Offline
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Registered: 15/04/2013
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Loc: Berkshire
Skulkin - that clergyman may have genuinely thought the car was OK, if it was OK when he parked it up. I thought my old Scottie was in reasonable shape but after being parked up on grass for a very long time, it had gone very rotten and the clutch had mysteriously gone too! Not to mention being full of spiders ...
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#1609374 - 11/10/2017 11:43 Re: Removing a sorry heap... [Re: skulkin]
skulkin Online   happy
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Registered: 28/03/2010
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Loc: overlooking the sea, sussex
Hi

Thanks for all the help and advice.

It was the persuasion tool and much persuasion option that finally worked

click to enlarge

The shell is now mobile again smile

Fair point Annie. I would reckon he probably knew the pads weren't in the best condition though...

click to enlarge

Cheers

skulkin

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#1609375 - 11/10/2017 11:48 Re: Removing a sorry heap... [Re: skulkin]
came2dance Offline
I AM a Coop

Registered: 18/12/2005
Posts: 13193
Loc: england
I went to look at one at a dealers once that turned out to be like that. (well almost) We arranged a test drive over the phone and drove 15 miles to get there. The discs looked a bit like that and it had a flat tyre. He was a bit miffed that we wouldn't wait while he inflated the tyre! crazy

Well done getting them off BTW mate shocked


Edited by came2dance (11/10/2017 11:49)
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