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Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? #1609382
11/10/2017 11:25
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Anyone else selling a coupe finding that enquiries seem to be slow to none existent? I have mine on a number of platforms and it's not getting any interest.

So I started to look in some detail and found that there are a number of cars that seem to have been for sale for a while now .... usually in the 3 + K region

Are coupe sales slowing? Thoughts?

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609385
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Everyone seems fixated on LE or PLUS models first and foremost- but even Nigel's sale has been slow going - and that looks to me a very nice car.

I also think on the other platforms people won't be able to discern that your committed to making sure the car is in good order. There is a lot to be weary of out there...cars that are high priced and no clear signs of expert servicing/TLC.

Finally Brexit...people are really really feeling the pinch already with the devalued stirling...

I think the days of £3-4K coupes are going/gone....but that's just my view.

Keep the faith! Someone who appreciates these cars is going to click they are undiscovered territory! I guess most are counting the pennies before xmas..

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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609387
11/10/2017 11:52
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I was thinking that if someone just fancies a coupe but doesn't know much about them or care to know much about them,then a cheaper coupe they will buy.

The higher priced coupes get bought by existing enthusiast's or maybe some car nut that has took the time to read up on them and Allways wanted one.

As Graham mentioned in another post that the higher priced ones normally take a bit of time to sell.



Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609391
11/10/2017 12:00
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I agree with your points guys. I am not complaining, I come home for a conference for a few days in November and I am looking forward to driving it. I am in no rush to move it on at all. I just find it interesting, I sold a mini cooper last month that was mine, in the UK, I was not in the UK ... usual story. That went within days.

Coupe price wise, the values have gone up for sure, but maybe a plateau is about to be reached. Time as always will tell.

These cars just have not got that X factor that the other classics from the era have presently .... that will change one day I hope!

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609394
11/10/2017 12:11
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Waaaaaaay to many car snobs in the UK . The little Fiat will reach a level but no where near what we think it should, in the main.

Here in France at certain events I'm having to fight the young guys off crowding round my coupe at times. It's a very well respected car and also loved in its track car form.
It's just that mine is a rhd that scares a few,but they Allways want a ride round the track in it.



Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609417
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Yes Patch. It's hard going. My Moon Grey Plus is in super nick save for needs an engine bay fresh ideally. If I come into some dosh, I'll keep it and get an easy daily but with 4 children I come under pressure. J

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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: juleshh] #1609430
11/10/2017 19:50
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There's been a few recent magazine articles that have raised the profile of the coupe that is likely to get some buying interest but IMHO I'm amazed at some of the prices that are being asked at the moment. Having said that they are unique cars, hand built etc etc. But if you're looking at the cars that may really appreciate in the future, according to a well known coupe specialist I was speaking to today, may be standard early models but who can tell... confused


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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609548
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I think the market for good well maintained and structurally sound 20vt's will hold steady circa £4K. Paying twice that for a Plus or LE is for me unrealistic.

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1609639
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With respect, I doubt it. My last Plus went for well over that. There is another Plus I have seen and advert for of nearly £12 and good luck to the gent. If you are a keen Cosworth man, prices of those and Audi S2 / Rs2s are very strong.

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610364
23/10/2017 12:56
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You may be right, but talking purely about Coupe's and the model variations I just don't see how the price increase for a Plus or LE is worth it for several minor 'stick on' additions. In fact I reckon the gap may well close between the LE/+ and standard 20vt's as more wither and are scrapped. I have seen the big priced LE/+'s either not selling at the heavily inflated prices or taking an absolute age to do so.

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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610375
23/10/2017 15:52
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I can see that to move mine on I will need to drop the price! Another big loss for me if I do ... and I am already selling at a loss. Never been much good at making money on Coupes', excellent at losing money on them though ))))

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610533
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I have decided to spend a bit more on mine and have the engine bay and any front under the bonnet metal work all spic and span so have asked for my for sale thread to be locked. I'll either keep it after the work or sell it to an enthusiast for a sensible amount.

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610541
26/10/2017 08:23
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Mine will be entered into a classic car auction (online) next week ..... I will take a gamble on this and let the market decide..... Will update my for sale thread when listed for the auction.

It's all fun and games huh! I will be driving it next week as I come home to speak at a conference for a few days. Looking forward to that smile

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610544
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Here's hoping you at the very least break even Patch!

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610546
26/10/2017 09:14
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Yep thanks MM! I don't mind being open. To break even I will need to sell at £4768.00. This is just to break even, no costs for time spent organising, communications, advertising, thinking :)))

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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610561
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No Jules.

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610568
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Was going to sell mine but just dont think there is great demand this time of year

Insurance now paid up so keeping it at least till next spring summer if i move next year to the type of house im aiming for (double garage) its going to get all the niggly bits sorted then its going to be stored until i finally have time to use it! work is too busy at the moment

If i dont move i am going to sell it as i cannot bare it being parked on the main road as im sure some scrote is going to ruin it for me, devaluing it and needing another spray job which would not make sense until the market value rises more

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I think that the value of these cars will not rise until they start to go through specific classic auction houses at higher prices. The collectors all watch the auctions for those increasing in value. they set the trend that others catch up on later.

I think, this is how the classic industry works and how the values increase. You can all thank me later :))) haha!

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610620
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I did note a couple going through the classics auctions last year. Can't recall the prices (though I think I posted at the time) but they weren't *too* shabby.


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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: juleshh] #1610623
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Originally Posted By juleshh


That one only went for £2,600 and it's lovely.

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610696
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I think people are thinking about Christmas and car sales are correspondingly slow.


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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610706
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Ah yes, xmas, in recent decades, the greatest sales ploy ever thought up smile

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610898
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How many LE's and Pluses were registered as a 5 speed or 6 speed 20VT, probably a few. Maybe only LE's and Pluses that are actually registered correctly are making strong money..


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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610903
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My 20v turbo Plus was registered as a 20v and there were 4 or 5 other mistakes, I got a letter from FCA UK to confirm the corrections (I had to pay mind you)


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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: DaveG] #1610914
03/11/2017 07:00
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Mine are all registered correctly on their V5's cool


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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610954
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I just sold two Italian motorbikes to two different collector's, things are selling. They both sold within hours of putting a classified on eBay. Men don't think about Christmas!

One would presume that this may be the wrong time of year to sell bikes but the way I see it if there is demand for such luxury goods they will always sell and the price for such doesn't really fluctuate because of the weather.

Unfortunately for us Coupe's just don't have that desirability/kudos/investment potential.

One of buyers had a DB6 in his collection!

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Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1610965
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I've thought about buying and selling motorbikes. The market is quite different to cars. They really hold their value (to a point) and are far more valuable per kilo than a car. A 20 year old bike with an MOT = £2000, compared to say sub £1000 for an equivalent car.

Probably, because they are generally seen more as toys than transport for most people.

Anyway, I'm interested to hear more about your bikes Sub...

Re: Coupe selling ..... or maybe not? [Re: ] #1612085
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Regarding selling a coupe -does anybody have any advice if a fiat coupe 20v non turbo 2000 x reg 48000 miles is anything. MOT until May 2018 but is now off road requiring a new intake manifold.

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does anybody have any advice if a fiat coupe 20v non turbo 2000 x reg 48000 miles is anything.


Sounds like you have a VIS. The intake manifold can be replaced. What is it that you want you know?

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