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Re: Floating discs at last [Re: Nigel] #1544479
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You can fit these discs and use the OE Brembo calipers - no mods necessary

I also thought about the Abarth 500 brembo kit in order to get the bigger calipers - wasn't sure whether they would fit the OE Coupe mountings


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Thread resurrection smile

Looks like we have another brave Coupe owner about to fit some floating discs from the Fiat 500 595/695

I'll let him own up when he's ready, but there's a chance that we can get the discs for rather less cost than was previously the case

watch this space...


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Look forward to this I’m going to be doing this but may have to be realistic and wait till After Christmas Depending on what deals are around!
Cheapest I saw them was about £400 plus postage but cannot find the link now as I’m having major issues with my win 10 pc constantly crashing
I did put the part no in google and it came up with some bargains but they were listed off an evo Mitsubishi so most likely wrong
Keep us posted!

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We have found that the price is extremely volatile - the price today is about £50 more than it was mid-week (from the same supplier!)

It appears timing is everything.....

I might just pounce on one or two pairs if I see them cheaply enough


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Knowing how cheap you got them before Nigel, how cheap is cheap enough?
as i would like to say get me some too! thumb

If the prices stay around what they are currently im waiting till after christmas, but if there is a mega deal I will have some now
I am about to get my alloys refurbed this month, tomorrow actually but i will see how i feel when i wake up in the morning coffee might put it off just in case a deal comes along!

Appreciate you taking the reins on this Nigel and appreciate any updates too! thumb

Re: Floating discs at last [Re: Nigel] #1611742
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I'm very tempted for when I next need discs but mine is still on its original hubs so the job gets bigger!


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Nigel hes not the only one recently to take the plunge wink i have a set sitting in the boot of the the LE awaiting fitting smile


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Re: Floating discs at last [Re: Nigel] #1612018
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198 euros inc. delivery EACH
but only deliver to Germany damn!

That's around £350 a pair

I think that's a reasonable price if you are going to Germany or know somebody there

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The prices are highly volatile - I've seen them at about £340 in the last few days, but they are now at nearly £400 again


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Spotted this kit in the Demon Tweeks catalogue yesterday and wondered if it could be used on the Coupe - https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/brake-kits/wilwood-big-brake-kits

Need to select Fiat 500 from the drop down list.


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Originally Posted By andyps
Spotted this kit in the Demon Tweeks catalogue yesterday and wondered if it could be used on the Coupe -


Mounting points for the calipers are likely to be quite different, although there's no reason why the discs shouldn't fit


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Re: Floating discs at last [Re: Nigel] #1627218
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A bit of a thread resurrection, but...
Originally Posted By Nigel
We have found that the price is extremely volatile - the price today is about £50 more than it was mid-week (from the same supplier!)

It appears timing is everything.....

I might just pounce on one or two pairs if I see them cheaply enough

Using the Autodoc app on my phone, they're now at £152.19 each, so a little over £300 (free shipping)

(Online they're £154.28 each, so over £8 more for a pair)

The cheapest I have ever seen...


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Re: Floating discs at last [Re: Nigel] #1627222
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Hi Dave, do you have a link either on here or via pm, as I would like a pair

Cheers Rich

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https://www.autodoc.co.uk/spares-search?keyword=09.B085.13

But a little cheaper if you download and register with the phone app


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Ok they are definitely the ones that fit? Did you order any?
Cheers

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Going via abarth 595 they didn’t list them but straight to them with your lunk

Re: Floating discs at last [Re: Nigel] #1627228
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These are what I bought and fitted straight on to my Porto 20vt, but paid around £350 quite some time ago


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Remember that the discs may not fit if you have the original hub flange - the flange doesn't fit in the recess of the floating disc

If you've replaced your front wheel bearings, the chances are you'll have aftermarket flanges which are smaller in diameter than OE and will fit easily in the disc recess


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I remember that issue you had Nigel but I still have the original hubs, and the floating discs fitted straight on, no problem?!


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Well I have ordered so will see what happens sick
Thanks for the heads up Dave

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Which hubs has anybody used and been happy with?
dont want to buy rubbish also what bearings

Is it a difficult job removing the flanges i.e any special tools required? i have circlip plyers and can get get hold of pullers
Did anybody replace the nut that holds it to the half shaft (splined driveshaft end)

Not had a chance to check mine yet due to work and light so just pre-empting any work required

Any help very much appreciated

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Can't help with the hubs H_R but just want to ask if the discs have turned up and if you are happy with them so far. I may well get some for mine in a couple of months but a bit busy with a house move at the moment.


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I placed an order for some other parts from AutoDoc at the same time and they're being delivered today. As I stated before, the floating discs fitted straight on to my OE hubs no problem, I guess you need to check the fit first. If the discs don't fit, you could always get any offending protrusions machined off of your existing hubs rather than buying new hubs (and hoping they'll work OK without mods) and fitting new bearings.

A new hub nut is usually supplied with new bearings, but they can be bought separately. The nuts are "staked" to the hub (raised edge is bashed in with a chisel to fit into a groove in the end of the drive shaft, when removing the nut you have to "unstake" it first and when removing it the "bashed in" part will often break off, so it's good practice to always get a new nut) And you'll need a big breaker bar / long pole (think of Archimedes moving the world) and thin walled 36mm socket plus a big torque wrench (28 daNm or 280 Nm or 207 ft-lbf)


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Originally Posted By H_R
Which hubs has anybody used and been happy with?
dont want to buy rubbish also what bearings

Is it a difficult job removing the flanges i.e any special tools required? i have circlip plyers and can get get hold of pullers
Did anybody replace the nut that holds it to the half shaft (splined driveshaft end)

Not had a chance to check mine yet due to work and light so just pre-empting any work required

Any help very much appreciated

Cheers


OE flange fits the two piece discs.
FAG or SKF bearings, both makes should come with a new castle nut.
You'll need a workshop press to fit new bearings and the flange, it's an easy enough job and you will need cir-clip pliers.

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Hi Andy not fitted yet so cannot comment on fitment or performance
I have opened up one box and they look to be the correct items and came in Brembo packaging so genuine and not aftermarket
I’m struggling with daylight and am on call this weekend so most likely won’t be stripping to check hub size
Don’t have brake pads yet so just want to know what I need as will wait till after Christmas

Regarding hubs most I have seen are 116mm outside diameter so should be ok shame photo bucket messed up all the host images

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Ok thanks for the heads up guys
I have a workshop press at work and don’t have any issues with basic fitting work as long as they are not seized Solid or bearings are collapsed (never noticed any loud noises so should be ok)
It will all be tackled properly in the new year when I can get some brake pads as I have not decided what to get yet! But will probably strip to check they do indeed fit when I get a chance!

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Brembo HP Sport Performance Pads 07.B314.39

Has anybody had any experience with these pads?

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