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#1611915 - 20/11/2017 23:49 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
andyps Offline
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Sounds like a good buy, fingers crossed for the MOT. I've always fancied a Panda 4x4
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#1611925 - 21/11/2017 10:35 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Gunzi]
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Originally Posted By Gunzi
We were given a Panda 1.2 petrol as a courtesy car once. I wasn't expecting much but it turned out to be a right hoot. I can see why the 100HP got such great reviews!


Me too, great fun to bounce off the limiter.

Pretty sure you could drive it wearing a top hat too!!
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#1611949 - 21/11/2017 20:42 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Originally Posted By Jim_Clennell
We opted for a bit of money off instead of a new MOT, which may prove an ill-advised gamble.


At least you know the work will have been done when you do it... (Cynical? Me?)
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#1612391 - 29/11/2017 19:54 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Well, it seems that the Panda needs a few bits and bobs - new wishbones and a prop-shaft bush, new brake discs and most of a new exhaust. Nothing too terrible.

I'd also like to get a new sump guard, but I'm inclined to have one fabricated, as the OEM one looks like it was made out of puff pastry. Rotten and almost disintegrated.

On the inside, I love the basic feel, but I would dearly like to fit a new head unit. The factory one is dreadful, not least because it occupies a double-din sized space, yet offers no AUX/USB connectivity or a DAB (though I can forgive this, given the car's age!) and the sound is bobbins.
There are no steering wheel controls or fancy OBC to worry about, so hopefully it should be plug and play (possibly with an adapter).

I don't want to spend a fortune, but I'd like a touch-screen if possible, as the space is there. I'm not even bothered about CDs - just DAB/radio and connectivity with phone, etc.
I'm not a brand junkie, so cheap Chinese could be an option...

Does anyone have any recommendations?
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#1612401 - 30/11/2017 00:11 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Loc: west bromwich
I have a Chinese jobby which I bought for another car and never used,just powered up on the desk and that’s all.
Drop me a pm if you want Jim.

Sat nav, sd card, usb etc. You will have to get a suitable cage surround but ready to go. Have a brand new motor now will all the toys so won’t be used. Even better it’s standard iso connector.
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#1612402 - 30/11/2017 00:12 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Like this one
Link


Edited by Gunzi (30/11/2017 07:03)
Edit Reason: Converted link to hyperlink to maintain forum formatting in mobile view
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#1612403 - 30/11/2017 06:48 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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That looks pretty much what I'm after, Reuben. Does it have DAB though, or just radio? DAB is a deal-breaker for me...
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#1612405 - 30/11/2017 07:24 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Second hand car stereos lose a lot of value. This JVC is starting at £20 and seems to meet your requirements. Also worth checking local gumtree.

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#1612411 - 30/11/2017 14:33 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Welcome to panda 4x4 land!
Custed is one of the better cars I bought of late and has been really rather well liked... and hated.

Would you like to see what wins in a tug of war?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weHTavY18bk
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#1612414 - 30/11/2017 17:54 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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I enjoyed the SFII reference! Did you do it the other way around Sam?

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#1612425 - 30/11/2017 20:27 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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I'm absolutely loving it, Sam! She's got her new ChipsAway decals, looking fine. Do you have any good tips about where to get info, etc?
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#1612427 - 30/11/2017 20:36 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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There is a fiat panda facebook group thats really good. Quite a few of us older panda drivers have new ones as well.
If you are on fb pm me username and I'll add you.

I need to do it the other way around... the mk1 wasn't running right as well so maybe ect weekend!
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#1612484 - 01/12/2017 20:18 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Loc: west bromwich
No dab on these Chinese units I’m afraid. going need to stick to a big brand for a dab system Jim.
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#1612508 - 02/12/2017 18:47 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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That's frustrating, Reuben! But you're right. Presumably, there's a USB DAB dongle or some such that can be added? How much would you want for the head unit?


Edited by Jim_Clennell (02/12/2017 18:47)
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#1612514 - 02/12/2017 20:34 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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I really don’t think you can Jim. What I have done previously on another unit is connect my phone to it and played tunein radio app through the unit.

Will pm you a price, as say never been fitted just tested on the bench.
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#1612517 - 02/12/2017 21:18 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Thanks, Reuben. Maybe an app is the way forward.
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#1612640 - 05/12/2017 13:48 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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I decided to forego the touch screen and opted for another Pure Highway single DIN head unit. The DAB+ on the one I bought for the coupé was brilliant - way better than the factory for one in my Transporter.
Thanks for everyone's help, as ever...
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#1612821 - 10/12/2017 11:53 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Based on an aborted trip to Cirencester from Stroud this morning, I now think buying this little Panda may have been the shrewdest vehicle move I've ever made!
Sadly, we had to turn back as the road was blocked by immobilised trucks, but the Panda was amazing!

Stay safe, you fccuck_ers.
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#1612822 - 10/12/2017 13:25 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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The feeling of smugness as you leave all the BMW and Mercs stuck in the snow must be overwhelming Jim !

The little Panda coming into its own.

hehe
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#1612827 - 10/12/2017 15:32 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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I certainly felt for the driver of a very nice Maserati as he attempted a roundabout. His paasenger was covering her eyes!
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#1612830 - 10/12/2017 16:18 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Gripped]
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Originally Posted By Gripped
The feeling of smugness as you leave all the BMW and Mercs stuck in the snow



My Merc never gets stuck. Shod in winter tyres, it’s a match for most things in snow depths that roads stays open.

But I’d imagine the Panda is very good.
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#1612842 - 10/12/2017 18:13 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: MeanRedSpider]
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Originally Posted By MeanRedSpider
Originally Posted By Gripped
The feeling of smugness as you leave all the BMW and Mercs stuck in the snow



My Merc never gets stuck. Shod in winter tyres, it’s a match for most things in snow depths that roads stays open.

But I’d imagine the Panda is very good.



Yeah, I'm talking about the average RWD vehicle. My Bongo is RWD, so not expecting good snow performance... Until I get the winter boots fitted.
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#1612844 - 10/12/2017 18:36 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Bought a replacement for the Bravo yesterday. Four ditchfinder specials on it, naturally - snow tyres ordered but I can't get them until Wednesday.

So today, six inches of global warming fell on our head. It was interesting, but not impossible (although people seemed to be having difficulty with a flat car park for some reason.)
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#1612854 - 11/12/2017 05:58 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: barnacle]
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Originally Posted By barnacle
Bought a replacement for the Bravo yesterday. Four ditchfinder specials on it, naturally - snow tyres ordered but I can't get them until Wednesday.


Reminds me of my visit to Norway several years back with most having 2 complete set of tyres, with the winter set of the studded variety. Are these sold/allowed in the UK?
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#1612855 - 11/12/2017 06:54 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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I'm pretty sure studded tyres are not legal in the UK.
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#1612857 - 11/12/2017 08:11 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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No studded tyres on motor vehicles. I have studded tyres for my MTB that I used for my winter cycling commutes - they are fabulous. I think Scandinavia spent/spends a fortune on road repairs. I don’t know if they still use studs.

Many parts of Europe have mandatory winter tyres. It makes sense because they are amazing. Our first winter in Scotland, I couldn’t get the Merc off the (level) drive in snow - just utterly refused to shift on standard Summer tyres. With winter tyres, it just went everywhere, including up some steep icy slopes - without the traction light even blinking.
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#1612872 - 11/12/2017 15:31 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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We have to remember that summer tyres have been progressively pushed towards the performance end of the spectrum so designers have dropped any pretence of providing winter ability. The compounds however, are usually fine at low temps but the tread design is completely unsuitable for ice and snow. Look at some of the youtube videos of 4wd vs winter tyres for some light entertainment. 4wd is great for getting going but turning and stopping is still down to the tyres. Once you have driven in bad conditions with winter tyres you will think many times before attempting the same again with summer tyres.

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#1612897 - 11/12/2017 20:27 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Quite.

Though I wrote off a Bravo a couple of weeks ago in snow - a choice between an oncoming vehicle in the middle of the road and a ditch - the snow tyres meant I was able to steer and slide along the ditch/rock face instead of meeting it head on.

The replacement Bravo has a complete mismatched set of ditchfinders which have made the last couple of days, um, interesting - but by Wednesday afternoon it will have snow tyres on.
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#1612931 - 12/12/2017 17:57 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Steering the discussion back to the Panda - she went through her MOT today with the requisite work on the brakes and lower suspension arms having been carried out.
Advisories on 2 front coil springs and rust on the anti-roll bar.

The other thing that will need replacing relatively soon is the exhaust. Apparently they are not easy to get from 3rd party suppliers and they cost a fair bit from Fiat. I would love to get a stainless one as the big back box runs transversally (and quite visibly) right across the back of the car. This is unique to the 4x4, owing to the prop-shaft and rear diff eating up the room used by the FWD exhaust. Does anyone know a good place to look for a pattern one? Could Alternative Autos be a contender?

I do know a place in Cardiff that does great exhausts, but we'll be needing the Panda before next Spring!
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#1612932 - 12/12/2017 18:26 Re: Unusual quest... [Re: Jim_Clennell]
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Go to infinity exhausts, just outside Bristol. Build bespoke systems for many applications!
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