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#1619912 - 03/05/2018 22:08 Highly modified 20VT Plus
Nigel Offline
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I'm still not 100% sure I'm doing the right thing here, but here goes..... cry

I bought my Moon Grey Plus in July 2010 with just 24,500 miles on it, after my previous Sprint Blue succumbed to rust. Mechanically, the Sprinty was 100%, so all the modified parts were transferred over to the Moonie. I then proceeded to use it as a daily driver for three more years until I realised the costs were too high (I was doing 20,000 miles a year). In 2013 I retired it as a daily driver and used it for weekends and occasional blasts. It is now down to about 1,000 miles a year.

This is surely one of the best-known and best-resolved Coupes on the forum. The way it is now is the result of seven years development in the Sprint Blue and another five years with the Moonie. I set out to create the quickest Coupe in the country (note, not the fastest or the most powerful) by blending huge power with sublime handling and good grip and traction. Those that have been around the forum long enough will know how much effort has gone into this car - stuff like the subframe brace and the Brembo two-piece floating discs are just a couple of examples of me spending time and money to make significant improvements to the car.

Put quite simply:-
  • It will potter around town quite happily
  • It will cruise on the motorway in (relative) comfort
  • It will return 34mpg fully loaded on a cruise to LeMans and back
  • It will run a standing quarter mile in less than 12.5 seconds
  • It will do 0-100 in about 9.5 seconds
  • More impressively, it will do 60-120 in about 7.5 seconds
  • top speed is "unknown", but estimated at 180-190 if I could ever find anywhere long enough to try

The basic details:

1999 Moon Grey 20 valve Turbo Plus
Usual Plus extras such as red-stitched leather Recaros, white clocks, boot nets etc
About 83,000 miles
MOT to March 2019
Full service history, although its due a service and a cambelt right now

Condition - 9/10. It was actually VERY good until I did a charity track day at Bruntingthorpe, during which it got a strong dose of gravel-rash from tailing exotica at 160mph. The front end in particular is looking tired - the front bumper and bonnet are pretty badly stone-chipped and will require paint to correct. The leading edge of the bonnet is bubbling slightly, but is easily catchable. One of the side-skirts has a scuff. One of the rear light rings is bubbling slightly. There are a few very minor parking dings. All of these defects are nothing untoward for a 19 year old car with 83k on it.

The modification list is extensive - this is the list, complete with the cost for the parts only:-

Engine
Accralite 83mm high-CR Forged pistons - £800
Cunningham forged con rods - £800
Columbo & Bariani High-lift cams - £600
Ported & Polished head, 3-angle inlet valve seats. - £500
Garrett GTX3071R turbo inc billet comp wheel - £1100
3" downpipe - £160
Downpipe heat wrapping - £50
Longlife 3" exhaust - £300
"Live" mapping - £2000
Siemens 630cc injectors - £200
3.8 bar Fuel Pressure regulator - £50
NGK BKR8EIX Iridium plugs - £60
Walbro 255 fuel pump - £80
ProAlloy induction pipe - £80
Ramair air filter - £60
ProAlloy front mount Intercooler - £450
Helix organic clutch & coverplate - £600
Short-shift - £75
Forge DV006 dump valve - £85
Custom MAF sensor housing - £100
Quaife ATB differential - £600
Blitz SBC-IDIII Boost controller - £300
Vibra Techics 'fast-road' engine mounts - £350
PowerFlex steady-bar bush - £20
Fuel pump direct power feed - £40

Chassis
Team Dynamics ProRace 1.2 17" alloys - £500
Brembo floating discs - £600
Pagid RS29 front brake pads - £220
HEL braided brake hoses - £75
Osrav KGA shock absorbers - £600
Eibach uprated springs (-25mm) - £150
Novitec 23mm rear anti-roll bar - £80
Custom lower subframe brace - £100
Welded front subframe - £150
Uprated wishbone bushes - £150

Cosmetics / body
Aluminium rear light rings & side repeater rings - £50

Interior

Aluminium dial rings - £50
Aluminium speaker rings - £25
Aluminium centre console rings - £30

ICE
Clarion FB289RBT head unit - £120
Infiniti Kappa front component speakers - £100
Infiniti Reference rear speakers - £100
PioneerTS-WX11A slimline 200W subwoofer - £250

other
35w HID headlamps - £75

Along with all the other odds and sods, that's about £13,000 in parts alone. I conservatively estimate that the labour bill (Mostly Motormech) for all the above is at least another £10,000

It has been suggested that I'll make more money by breaking the car for the tuning parts - not a chance! - I want this car to go to someone who will carry on throwing the attention (and money) at it that I've done over the years

To give you an idea of the effort that went into the engine build - standard Coupe 20VT rod and piston assemblies are balanced to within 20 grams of each other. Paul balanced the Accralite pistons and Cunningham rods to within 0.5 grams. Its attention to detail like this that makes the difference between a powerful Coupe and a one with reliable power.

The result of all the engine mods is a peak of 488bhp at 7,200rpm using 1.6 bar (raised rev limiter due to the balanced internals). Torque was 378 lb-ft at 6,200 rpm. The car briefly made over 500bhp on the dyno, but this was a bit close to the limit, so it was backed off to something that would be reliable.

Its also making 200bhp at 4,000rpm, 300bhp at 4,750rpm and 400bhp at 5,600rpm

A gauge of the performance is that at Bruntingthorpe, it pulled away from an Audi RS6 C5, a Porsche 911 GT3 and an early Nissan GTR (admittedly, the GT3 whupped my ass round the corners...)

The handling has to be experienced to be believed. With the Quaife diff, it corners like a RWD car - just feed it in and when the understeer starts, feed in more power and it just pulls round. I've had many positive comments from drivers of fairly exotic stuff about just how well it handles. The chassis spec is the same as the Sprint Blue, in which I won the FWD handling class at Ten of the Best two years running.

Other than the paintwork issues I've mentioned above, the only negatives I can think of are:-
  • Aircon not working - it was working when I laid it up for winter, so almost certainly just needs a re-gas
  • Tyres are, well, tired. They are Toyo T1-R and they are four years old. It really needs something better - if I keep the car, I'll fit Yoko AD08R or Toyo R1-R
  • There are a few squeaks and rattles - just can't be bothered to track them down
  • Cold start can be a pain - it needs 30-60 seconds without touching the throttle before it can be driven away without a misfire - could ideally do with a bit more mapping to smooth it out.

I've also spent a lot of time and effort making the car look close to standard and as comfortable as possible. For example, the entire interior is covered in self-adhesive closed-cell foam to dampen the general road noise. The sound system is very well-sorted, with great speakers, a subtle flat sub in the boot and very crisp and clear sound.

By separate negotiation, I can also include a substantial stock of spares, including:-
  • brand-new OE Plus cam cover - never been fitted
  • Set of OE plus wheels - freshly refurbed - never had tyres fitted
  • Three large boxes of various parts - ECU and lock-set, spare lights, loads of interior plastics and other hard-to-get bits

So - the hard bit - price....

With good paint, I reckon a Coupe with this much performance is worth £15k all day long. Heck, there are standard Coupes (with admittedly better paintwork) fetching £10k+

So - taking the fact that it needs paint into account, I've set the price accordingly at £12,500. I've had a quote for £2k for a complete respray (by the chap that's done loads of Coupes over the years, including an Auto Italia concours winner)

Weirdly, I have very few photos of the car - here's three that I can lay my hands on

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Note - the final image has been doctored to clean up some of the stone-chips

There's LOADS more I can tell to anyone that's interested - I'm happy to possible buyers a passenger ride and even a drive on proof of insurance (and the understanding that if you break it, you buy it!)

Oh God - what am I doing?......

Final caveat - I might get cold feet and withdraw from the sale when I come to my senses
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#1620089 - 08/05/2018 00:26 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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#1620216 - 09/05/2018 15:35 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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#1620295 - 11/05/2018 10:06 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Your car, for this price it´s almost free, just for all the parts it as, it´s a bargain.

If it didn´t have the steering wheel on the wrong side laugh i would buy it for sure.

It´s the cheapest way of having a 500hp car with style.
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#1620849 - 24/05/2018 09:26 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Is the power level putting people off? I can turn the boost down if nearly 500bhp is daunting - I think it gives about 400bhp on base boost wink

Clearly, pricing a car like this is extremely difficult, and clearly, I have a very biased view of what I think the car is worth, but I'd genuinely be interested to hear people's thoughts on what is putting people off

I really don't want to sell this car on Ebay to someone with more money than sense - it will end up stuffed into the scenery or blown to bits through ragging it to death. If I can't sell it to a Coupe enthusiast, I'll just keep it

What I really need is for someone to test drive it - as soon as they do, they'll almost certainly buy it
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#1620859 - 24/05/2018 13:32 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I think the issue is modification or at least another person's choice of modification, if you want 500bhp for £13k then it is brilliant value for money.

If you want an unmolested vanilla example of OE spec, less so. A decent basic 20vt is still circa £3-5K, the LE and Plus models perhaps twice that at most; the higher priced car's seem to take a fair old while to sell. Given the average punter sees a 20vt snottter for £1500 on eBay that looks great why would they pay up to x8's for the 'same thing'? The demand may not be there for huge power or big money Coupes for those who want their own journey with a Coupe?

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#1620869 - 24/05/2018 18:44 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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My 2p worth is that it’s fantastic value, but ultimately only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. It seems that lots of people what a coupe for a couple of k and therefore all specs are worth the same to these people. I expect that it’ll take a while to sell, if I were in your position I would hang onto it until I got the price I wanted.

I’ve already had numerous people tell me that I was crazy to spend what I did on Nismo’s old coupe, but life is short and I’d rather regret doing something than not!

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#1620873 - 24/05/2018 20:25 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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From a fiat coupe enthusiast point of view ,the feelings must be split.
Coupe purists will not be interested I imagine but from a tuning point of view it's nigh on the holy grail.
The years of dedication and effort let alone money makes this coupe a very attractive buy.
The only negative is that it's Nigel's coupe and it should stay his as its only him that keeps it the way it is.
Anyone else will cloud9 it up.
It's to powerful for the track days I do with mine and it would be dead quickly.

Keep the coupe Nigel.
Enjoy it for as long as you are able and pass it on to your lads when they can respect and handle it.
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#1620887 - 25/05/2018 07:46 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I would say the reason high priced coupes are slow to sell, is because there are so many tatty cheap coupes out there and there are always a few on ebay at the same time!

I think another couple of years and the cheap ones will either be gone or done up pushing the price up a bit more

I still think the price is reasonable for your car Nigel but it is a Niche market and difficult to compare to any Ford RS etc.

Im sure it will sell if you really want it to!

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#1620902 - 25/05/2018 13:50 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I feel the Coupe currently has no 'real' market desirability or demand, I agree that may well change in the future, and the near to OE spec cars will be the one's that will at the top.

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#1621865 - 15/06/2018 15:27 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I'd buy this tomorrow if I had the money smile

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#1621982 - 18/06/2018 14:38 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I suspect the issue maybe that people are split Nigel as magooagain mentions.

Coupe fans often seem to want a standard car- and you have taken yours to the nth degree. If your interested in tuning - yours doesn't want for anything. And it's one to be driven rather then polished and made a garage queen.

Modern Petrol Heads - I'm not sure they really know or get what the coup is. And tend to think of Japanese cars for BIG tuning.

I've been reading the "in a few years the coup will be seen as a future classic" for 10 years or so - and prices are only now just starting to rise.

No question there is a buyer out there for yours Nigel - although maybe the forum is not the only place to advertise.

More pictures will help - your not showing her in all her glory I think.

Are you still sure you want to sell her? Maybe its a sign?....

Best wishes,

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#1622009 - 18/06/2018 21:55 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Master_Mariner]
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Agree, I'm sure more pictures would help.
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#1622126 - 20/06/2018 20:44 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I also think the car market is very slow at the moment for some reason.
Im selling a car at the mo (not a coupe) and have had some texts and ebay messages but no viewings.
Also as Im not sure what I want next ive been looking at many many cars on Pistonheads and Ebay and what I think is a good car at a good price is (9 times out of 10) still available 4,5 even 6 weeks down the line......
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#1622159 - 21/06/2018 08:43 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I'm under no illusions that I'm pitching to a very narrow market - I expect that if the car sells, it will be to someone that has been around the forum for quite a while and knows the history of the car.

I agree that my advert is a bit lazy - I really need to give the car a damn good clean and polish and get some decent photos - its on my list of things to do, but sunny Sundays are an excuse to take the Westfield out for a blast, so car cleaning tends to come in second place.....

I might look into making a short video of the speedo needle at 1.6 bar in 3rd gear - that should help illustrate how the car goes about its business...
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#1622201 - 22/06/2018 10:58 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I found three more photos - taken at Auto Italia Stanford Hall in 2015

click to enlarge click to enlarge click to enlarge

If you zoom in on the first image, you'll see the state of the front bumper and also the slight bubbling on the front edge of the bonnet. If you want to be REALLY critical, you'll also see the very start of a tiny bit of bubbling on the front wheelarch - the rears probably have a similar amount
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#1622202 - 22/06/2018 11:02 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
Nigel Offline
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Also found the dyno plots for max boost (with and without the ECU safety measures)

488bhp at 1.6 bar with safety on, and just over 500bhp with safety off

Naturally, the ECU runs with all safety measures enabled

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#1622205 - 22/06/2018 12:20 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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I think the bodywork and cold start issues would put most people off at your price point Nigel.
The car looks a little unloved even though it has been well cared for and most people spending in excess of 10k on a coupe will want it to be near mint body wise, regardless of how much work has been done on it.

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#1622206 - 22/06/2018 12:59 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Fair comments Daz, but if the bodywork was mint, the price would be a couple of grand higher....
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#1622207 - 22/06/2018 13:04 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Anyone else finding the pictures are too large to easily view onscreen?
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#1622213 - 22/06/2018 13:52 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By Nigel
Fair comments Daz, but if the bodywork was mint, the price would be a couple of grand higher....


I think it would sell quicker at a higher price if the bodywork was done. Potential buyers may be looking at it thinking it's going to cost them 3 or 4k to get painted and then the aircon needs sorting and the mapping etc....
If I were looking for one at that kind of money (irrespective of modifications) I would want the bodywork to be mint or very near mint. The mechanical stuff wouldn't bother me.

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#1622214 - 22/06/2018 14:05 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: elder81]
Nigel Offline
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Originally Posted By elder81
Anyone else finding the pictures are too large to easily view onscreen?


Yes, they are pretty big - I'll re-size them
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#1622215 - 22/06/2018 14:10 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Re-sized images

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#1622302 - 25/06/2018 09:26 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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To follow up on some comments earlier in this thread that it wasn't very "photo-heavy", I took the car out for a quick blat yesterday, after I'd washed a month's worth of dust and tree sap off it

Looks quite good in the evening sun....

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Full-size images, in case you want to check out the gravel-rash on the front bumper.....

Piccy 1

Piccy 2

Piccy 3
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#1622469 - 29/06/2018 23:08 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Sitting behind a retina screen here so they are perfect for me laugh
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#1622946 - 14/07/2018 12:08 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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OK, after a couple of enquiries, it’s clear that my price is a bit too strong, given that the car needs a little cosmetic work to make it perfect.

So - two changes

1) the car will come with a fresh cam belt service, making it good for another three years

2) price reduction to reflect the front-end paintwork issues

Price is now £10,995

The alternative is that I’d be willing to negotiate the inclusion of some or all of the spares package I’ve accumulated over the years - probably a couple of grands worth of bits.

I REALLY don’t want to put it on EBay, as I’ll get loads of idiotic enquiries from time-wasting tyre-kickers. I would also like the car to go to someone that knows about Coupes who is capable of treating it properly.

If it doesn’t sell at this price, I will find somewhere to store it until I can afford a house with a triple garage.....
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#1625189 - 20/09/2018 23:54 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Hi Nigel,

Firstly, if I was in the market I would jump at the chance to agree ownership of your moonie. I either need to wait to claim my 25% retirement pot at 55 (15 years away), or win a little on the lottery. So sorry, but not for me now.

Not being mechanically minded, I'd need a good independent to look after it - especially given the modifications - so this is one factor. Graham Eddy at Long Rock (Penzance) would be my nearest, and he seems to have a good reputation for this.

Anyway, the point of this post is to tell you to keep the car, don't drop the price any lower as I think it's fair - and if you can afford to, keep it for some years to come. The right buyer will come along at the right time; even if it's a 15 year wait for me to revisit this forum/post!

I remember seeing my first ever coop; and it was a 20vt turbo moonie - parked up next to the Camel Trail in Bodmin, Cornwall. I was only 24 or 25 at the time, but my jaw dropped to the floor. I ended up buying a 16v (NA) red coop in 2004 - and still to this day, it was my favourite car I have ever owned. I loved the handling, the way I could throw it into a corner, the way I could get it to slide around a roundabout, and collect it effortlessly and with a 60 mile smile on my face. I loved finding the limit, going over it when I wanted fun, having 3 heavy mates in the back and seeing how it affected handling (!!) and just generally the fun of it. Then I upgraded the interior to black leather which was lovely. However it succumbed to old age and unreliability - the alternator went, which for some dumb reason I never replaced (price maybe), I ended up carrying a second battery to do a quick battery change which I remember getting it down to under 4 minutes. I even succumbed to a very boring renault laguna (yuck) which became my daily driver. But I still kept the coop. I remember even in my dating days with my better half/now wife, taking her out on dates and loving the car/noise, and then promptly breaking down on a dark Cornish road - doing the regular battery change - and she still married me! And luckily, at one point I did own a Ferrari 348 - of which the noise was simply pure perfection - burble, acceleration, tunnel or no tunnel - but that was an expensive and stressful car to own and drive - I hated the feel of paint on the roads - feeling every bump and line as I drove over it - and the backend I rarely got our - maybe 2 or 3 times - which was stupidly and genuinely heart in mouth scary. I really did miss the coop as it failed - but the two parked up side by side complimented each other. Anyway I happily sold the ferrari just before I got married, but had to scrap the coop (CRY) as the engine blew and left a big puddle of black oily tears underneath, and I ended up with a Mini.

Anyway, the whole point of this is that I havent posted here in probably a decade, but I occasionally pop by once or twice a year to view the cars for sale, thinking one day, out of all the cars I've seen I would love to be lucky enough to one day to own a coop again (albeit a well sorted one). The only other car to ever truly catch my attention was an Alfa GTV V6 (with cup kit), but I would need a double garage as the coop would be top. Anyway maybe one day....

So the end message is - hang in there, don't drop the price (although I would sort out the cold idle and paint issues etc if you get the chance) - and maybe one day - either myself or the right buyer will pop into FCCUK, and offer to take ownership of your moonie from you. There's very few coops I would ever consider owning, and I would like to think I have experienced/driven/seen some nice cars from hot hatches to track days and Italian exotics, but your moonie DOES stand out. Keep in there Nigel! wink

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#1625223 - 22/09/2018 10:50 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
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Loc: Staffordshire
Interesting - thanks for the story - I had actually come onto this thread to reduce the price another £1k, but I’ve now decided against it.

I drove it a week or so ago and I remembered why I love it - utterly ballistic and the handling is sublime. It desperately needs tyres as it span up in third in the dry, but that’s an easy fix

I’ve just changed jobs (actually, the existing boss doesn’t know yet - telling him on Monday). The new commute is just ten miles and 20 minutes, so I might just leave the GT diesel at home and use the Coupe

So, unless someone is on the verge of making me a sensible offer, I’m going to bale out and keep it for a while longer
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#1625652 - 02/10/2018 15:31 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: Nigel]
GraemeC Offline
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Registered: 20/12/2005
Posts: 2283
Loc: Manchester
Nigel, best of luck with the sale, I am sorely tempted - don't suppose you'd consider an RX8 PZ in part ex :-)

I've not been on the forum for ages (still regret selling my sprinty) and only popped in as Fishy Dave has surfaced on the RX8 owners club forum pitching an RX8 racing series (another temptation and another potential car purchase - my RX8 is too good to turn into a track car yet...)

For anyone new to this form, Nigel's cars are legendary and Motormech are very well respected specialists (thanks Paul for running me back to the station at 10pm on a Thu night and having my car back by Sat - still much appreciated years later!)
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#1625683 - 03/10/2018 14:22 Re: Highly modified 20VT Plus [Re: GraemeC]
Nigel Offline
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Registered: 16/12/2005
Posts: 16932
Loc: Staffordshire
Originally Posted By GraemeC
don't suppose you'd consider an RX8 PZ in part ex :-)


Hi Graeme - good to hear from you after all these years

My aim is to reduce the number of cars on the drive - Wifey would have a fit if I moved the Coupe on and came back with something else

My Westfield is now my "tinkering interest" - I'm really enjoying repeating what I did with the Coupe - a general programme of improvements over a period of time.

I can genuinely see why some people spend years and fortunes restoring an old car, only to sell it when they've finished. Its the journey, not the destination, and I think my journey with Coupes is coming to an end
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