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#1593476 - 05/02/2017 22:35 Radiator alternatives
andyps Offline
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Is there a decent alternative radiator for the 20VT? I took mine out this weekend as part of the dismantling for the engine swap and it is in really poor condition with lots of missing fins. Whilst I could presumably get it reconditioned I wondered if there is anything else recommended.
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#1593482 - 05/02/2017 23:17 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Reconditioning radiators usually involves fitting a complete new core retaining only the end caps, so the poor condition parts will be thrown away.
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#1593483 - 05/02/2017 23:22 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Joe at FCSS uses Valeo....
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#1593487 - 06/02/2017 00:29 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
andyps Offline
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Thanks guys, I need to chat with Joe tomorrow anyway so will ask him.
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#1593502 - 06/02/2017 09:09 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Valeo is OEM.
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#1593503 - 06/02/2017 09:15 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Yes as Pete says Valeo is the OE radiator for yours Andy, the one removed sounds like an original black copper unit which has done it's time by the sound of it, new Valeo rads are alloy so silver in colour and still readily available, check Eurocarparts as they had a deal on last year supplying them for £95.00 delivered.
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#1593506 - 06/02/2017 09:59 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
andyps Offline
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Cheers Joe, I'll wait until the next email from EuroCarParts with a discount - had one for 30% over the weekend but get them regularly.
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#1593511 - 06/02/2017 11:53 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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its worth trying some of the older codes for higher discount...I've had expired 40% and 50% codes work on items. I always try searching google for discount codes as that brings up past and present codes...sites like hot uk deals list expired codes but trial and error can save ££££££

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#1593515 - 06/02/2017 12:24 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Got my Valeo radiator from mister-auto.co.uk at the time ( Sept 2016 ) £88.00 delivered.
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#1614548 - 16/01/2018 11:52 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: ScouseCoupe]
godders Offline
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Hijacking Andy's Post from Feb Last year.
My radiator has a slight incontinence problem and is leaking from the bottom of the core on the right hand side (as you look at it from the front).

So neither http://www.mister-auto.co.uk or www.eurocarparts.com have any Valeo units in stock (actually, they have no Coupe rads in stock, period!).

So looking at alternatives, found this on fleabay, which has correct Fiat part No (from eper):

For FIAT COUPE 2.0 20V TURBO 1996-2001 New Radiator Genuine Valeo 71735354 OEM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-FIAT-COUP...EM/252029165571

Or:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-COUPE-199...R-/332447362745
Which has the correct Valeo part no 731593 .

However, I’ve also seen this which looks interesting:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/351731274139

And looks suspiciously like the Direnza rads’ which have a bit of mixed set of opinion on here. As this is for a trackday car, any views please?

Thanks in advance

Regards

Sg

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#1614550 - 16/01/2018 11:58 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
Countrycruising Offline
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Personally I'd stick with OE Valeo at £109.00, the alloy radiators can leak and also cause issues where the fan frame is too close to the bottom outlet pipe.
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#1614566 - 16/01/2018 17:26 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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The one on my track coupe is an Aloy one(I think) from AA.

I run in very hot temps a lot of the time. No problems in any way.

There! I've said it. Kiss of death on its way!
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#1616234 - 21/02/2018 17:32 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
sjpbarchetta Offline
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Registered: 13/04/2008
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Does anyone know who has stock of the Valeo part? I'm struggling to find one. The ones on eBay are in Latvia - and have ETA of mid April!

Thank you in advance
Stephen

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#1616439 - 25/02/2018 10:33 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
godders Offline
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Yeah! Had the same problem, ordered one off Fleabay, but they cancelled my order as they said their supplier had incorrectly labelled their stock and they had none with no eta.

So after discussing with Joe i’ve gone for the Black Direnza which arrived in super speedy (Parcelforce aside) time. Not fitted yet but it looks fine and that bottom pipe (to the turbo) looks fine.

I’ll post up details once fitted (couple weeks time)

Sg

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#1616537 - 27/02/2018 14:48 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Thanks for that reassurance, I will probably do the same then. I believe they are thicker too, but hopefully there's enough room to play with.

S

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#1616913 - 05/03/2018 15:02 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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I've had 2 radiators from these. One for my Coupe (VIS) and one for my van. Both have been fine so far. They've been installed for at least 4+ years.

https://www.adrad.co.uk/car-radiator/cat...e=2.0&year=
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#1620344 - 12/05/2018 09:41 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: godders]
godders Offline
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Update,

So I bought the black 40% upgrade Direnza Alloy radiator
Now fitted and I have to say I think this is a pretty decent bit of kit, the fan mountings fitted no problem, tip is fit the turbo coolant hose first then the fan mounting else it’s a bit of a tight squeeze to get the jubilee clip on.

The fact it is black gives the engine bay that OE feel, and on initial test runs especially when on idle the fans pop on for the briefest of times so the efficiency seems really good.

Should point out that my car has had the aircon removed so the rad is closer to the slam panel than on a car with aircon fitted, so for me the slightly thicker radiator is not a problem.

There are a couple of piccies on Joes FCSS Facebook page under “Barry Circuit Car” album.

If anyone needs any further detail let me know, but my view is that these are a decent alternative to the Valeo which is difficult to obtain at the moment.

Sg

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#1622983 - 16/07/2018 12:16 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
MarkC Offline
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Registered: 28/05/2016
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Loc: North Norfolk
Cheers for the update, my valeo has lasted less than two years and only 3000 miles and is leaking already, looking for an alloy rad,so the Direnza sounds good. Where did you order it from? As the Direnza webpage says out of stock.
Plus i have air con ,would it still fit ok?

Many thanks

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#1623207 - 22/07/2018 10:22 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
godders Offline
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Loc: Surrey Hills, U.K
Hi Mark,

I bought mine from the eBay shop of Uk Performance (aka jap parts)
The larger rad will fit with aircon, but it will be tight between the exhaust shield, so unless you need the extra cooling capacity I would go for the standard depth one, as my car spends most of its time at the upper end of the rev’ limit the extra capacity made sense, but for regular use not sure it’s needed. The black addition rad does look good though.

Sg

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#1625120 - 19/09/2018 12:50 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
spinnaker Offline
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Loc: Sussex
My radiator is leaking from the base fins. 20vt with aircon. I can't find any supplier who has these. The Advanced Rad co only has N/A style. Any ideas please?

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#1625144 - 20/09/2018 12:10 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: spinnaker]
ScouseCoupe Offline
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Originally Posted By spinnaker
My radiator is leaking from the base fins. 20vt with aircon. I can't find any supplier who has these. The Advanced Rad co only has N/A style. Any ideas please?


goto www.carparts4less.co.uk for the Valeo Radiator ( Part Number 731593 ). Use the discount coupon and get further money off.
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#1625155 - 20/09/2018 14:15 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Shows not available. Rog bought about 8 of them, possibly cleared the stock out a few months back.


Edited by Submariner (20/09/2018 14:15)

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#1625156 - 20/09/2018 14:16 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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I am trying to get a complete list of part numbers for valeo radiators as that one 731593 does not match any the "complete" part numbers they can find
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#1625158 - 20/09/2018 14:22 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: ScouseCoupe]
BBR Offline
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Originally Posted By ScouseCoupe
Originally Posted By spinnaker
My radiator is leaking from the base fins. 20vt with aircon. I can't find any supplier who has these. The Advanced Rad co only has N/A style. Any ideas please?


goto www.carparts4less.co.uk for the Valeo Radiator ( Part Number 731593 ). Use the discount coupon and get further money off.


There is supposedly nothing in stock or on the books for Fiat Coupe 20vt at the moment, but they are emailing me a list of valeo radiators just in case something else would match.
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#1625168 - 20/09/2018 16:12 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Don't forget - if all else fails, there are still companies out there who can make you a rad from scratch, to match an existing unit. Probably going to cost more, but...
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#1625174 - 20/09/2018 18:00 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: BBR]
ScouseCoupe Offline
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Originally Posted By BBR
I am trying to get a complete list of part numbers for valeo radiators as that one 731593 does not match any the "complete" part numbers they can find


That's the one on my invoice and on the valeo sticker on the radiator. Manufactured in 2016 and sold in 2016.


Edited by ScouseCoupe (20/09/2018 18:10)
Edit Reason: edit
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#1625175 - 20/09/2018 18:15 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
ScouseCoupe Offline
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Just checked the Valeo site. The 20VT Rad is a 731593 like I have posted.

https://www.valeoservice.co.uk/en-uk/techassist/search/car

Other Coupe Valeo Current Part Numbers :

20v Non Turbo : 731592
16v Non Turbo : 731159
16v Turbo : 730838


Edited by ScouseCoupe (20/09/2018 18:20)
Edit Reason: spell
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#1625260 - 23/09/2018 12:57 Re: Radiator alternatives [Re: andyps]
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Alternative Autos may have one.
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