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#1618365 - 06/04/2018 00:46 Air con compressor seal kit
Boosted7 Offline
Club member 46
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Registered: 18/07/2007
Posts: 1811
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
The air conditioner compressor on my 20VT has leaky seals. Living in the sub tropics, this is a bit of an issue even though we are heading towards winter.

Does anyone know of a supplier for a seal kit? Some initial googling has failed to turn up anything useful apart from one supplier that can apparently source a new compressor for over £300 (!).

Any suggestions?
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#1618367 - 06/04/2018 07:12 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
DaveG Offline
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Registered: 16/12/2005
Posts: 6961
Loc: Lightwater, Surrey, UK
Don't bother buying the seal kit shown on ePer, it's just a random collection of too many O rings of which very few, if any, fit. Just go to an A/C specialist and get them to supply the correct sizes from their extensive stock. I've listed the sizes somewhere on the forum. But yes, new compressors are about that amount, hopefully you won't need one. Best to get system evacuated then regassed including fluorescent dye and look for leaks with UV light. Can also use a "sniffer" (bit like a geiger counter) but I've seen those detecting gas even laying on the ground in fresh air.
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#1618369 - 06/04/2018 07:42 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
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Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Thanks for the info Dave. It was an AC specialist I went to here in Brisbane, however he didn't have the correct seals and couldn't find the compressor listed in his parts catalogues despite several other similar Denso units appearing. It would seem this kind of compressor was never fitted to any Australian delivered vehicle, hence I think I will need to source these from the UK or Europe unfortunately.
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#1618370 - 06/04/2018 07:57 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
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Registered: 14/07/2007
Posts: 314
Loc: France
Hi Boosted,

I have been looking for the compressor repair kit for a long time now and finally found the parts needed about 2 weeks ago in Spain. I am currently in Spain for about a month and the place is only a few miles away. Very lucky there.

The seal and the gasket kit should be a few quid, but it is quite expensive, but there is no other option that I could find.

Can you PM me your email address and I will send you the details and links to the part numbers. If you have any issue with the Spanish company not wanting to post the items to you let me know and I will collect them and post to you.

I had considered seeing if I can get a discount for 10 x kits and repair compressors for people on the forum if mine goes OK.

Frazer
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#1618371 - 06/04/2018 08:29 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
DaveG Offline
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Registered: 16/12/2005
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Loc: Lightwater, Surrey, UK
Have a read of this thread and that thread and this one too if you haven't seen them already
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#1618373 - 06/04/2018 08:40 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
french_coupe Offline
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Registered: 14/07/2007
Posts: 314
Loc: France
Thanks Dave,

The A/C is always an issue. Not really big enough for the car either.

I have 4 or 5 non working compressors now so have been looking for the seal and gasket kit for a while.
Now that I finally have them I just need to fit them. The compressor is actually quite basic inside so its not a difficult job. The hardest part is getting the clutch off without damaging it as I dont have the correct tool.

It will be sometime in May or June before I get around to fitting the seal and gasket though so will not be able to give any feedback until then.

Frazer
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#1618376 - 06/04/2018 09:55 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
GrahamL Offline
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Registered: 17/12/2005
Posts: 3530
Loc: Pothole City
It's the seal on top of the compressor at the high pressure manifold that seems to leak and it's the one that's hard to source, as mentioned on my thread Dave linked above:

https://fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1483980

I re-used the old one that time and it was OK for a while, but did start leaking again within a few months.

Eventually I managed to find a supplier of the correct seal (green HNBR @ 23mm x 2mm) in China but I had to order a 100 pack! My compressor has been fine since replacing that seal and obviously I have a load of them left so if anyone needs one just drop me a PM.

Coincidentally another guy in Brisbane (Gary687 on here) asked me about this a few weeks ago, so if you contact him he should be able to give you one as I sent him a few spares just in case anyone else "down under" ever needed one.

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#1618377 - 06/04/2018 10:00 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: GrahamL]
Possum Offline
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Registered: 19/12/2005
Posts: 1552
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I'm seeing Boosted7 in the morning and I have Gary's number so will pass it on.
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#1618383 - 06/04/2018 10:54 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Boosted7 Offline
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Registered: 18/07/2007
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Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Gotta love this forum, thanks all :-)
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#1618475 - 07/04/2018 14:17 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Gripped Offline
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Registered: 20/12/2005
Posts: 3033
Loc: S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Well done all. I can see a group buy coming on for a seal kit ! thumb Good luck Ant - you want to stay "looking cool" in the Coupe.

When I had my "evacuation" and regas, it was done by a local mobile guy and he had a load of seals with him - though these were used on the condenser, drier and pipe connections - and we left the compressor alone. My A/C has a slow leak from somewhere - could well be the compressor, so a new seal kit would be ideal.

As for the performance, after the regas, it was easily achieving 5C at the vent, with a 25C outside temp. Pity it didn't last.



Edited by Gripped (07/04/2018 14:18)
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#1619498 - 26/04/2018 22:53 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Skiday Offline
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On a journey

Registered: 30/01/2008
Posts: 150
Loc: Isle of Wight,
Hi Guys.

As I've just sold my E-type I reckon I can now afford to get my non-working A/C going. Just by looking at its ratty condition the rad looks like it probably shot. Where is the best place to go for a replacement condensing radiator or is it much of a muchness? Is there a brand to look for or ones to avoid?
Also, the compressor may or may not be good, I don't know, but it certainly needs a very good clean and polish. Is it worth taking off to be checked on the bench, it could then also be made to look like new, or is it best to leave in situ for a technician to test?

Andrew


Edited by Skiday (26/04/2018 22:57)
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#1619546 - 27/04/2018 23:55 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
GrahamL Offline
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Registered: 17/12/2005
Posts: 3530
Loc: Pothole City
Avoid the cheap serpentine style condensers, try to get the thinner (16mm rather than 25mm) parallel, aluminium style like the original.

NRF part # 35185 seems to be the cheapest (maybe only) proper replacement that's still available. They still had a few left in the Netherlands when I got one last year, they ship direct from there unless you're very lucky and find stock in the UK.

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#1620416 - 14/05/2018 11:52 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Skiday Offline
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Registered: 30/01/2008
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Loc: Isle of Wight,
Thanks Graham. Have you got a name of the supplier in NL?
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#1620419 - 14/05/2018 12:28 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Skiday Offline
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Registered: 30/01/2008
Posts: 150
Loc: Isle of Wight,
I have found NRF #3518 here: eBay item number:122957002863
The dimension of the distance from the top holes and the bottoms is 390mm and the actual on my original (with OEM number 60630383 on it) is 402mm and on the part compatibility checker it says it is not compatible with Fiat Coupe 20vt - so now I'm not sure.
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#1620422 - 14/05/2018 12:58 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Skiday Offline
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Registered: 30/01/2008
Posts: 150
Loc: Isle of Wight,
I have now ordered a Hella eBay item number:273103543377 & I've asked the supplier and they say is good for Fiat #60630383 and it's from the UK - £98 all in. Perhaps the dimension difference is more to do with having a non-original radiator which means the condenser has stretched a bit to fit, plus it's not so easy to measure.
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#1622265 - 24/06/2018 09:58 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
Boosted7 Offline
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Registered: 18/07/2007
Posts: 1811
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Slight change of plan, I'm looking for a new AC compressor now too. Can anyone recommend a supplier?
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#1622319 - 25/06/2018 20:31 Re: Air con compressor seal kit [Re: Boosted7]
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Registered: 24/06/2007
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Loc: Carlisle
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