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PT ultraspool results #456788
14/10/2007 16:02
14/10/2007 16:02

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/joelcoop/PerfectTouchDynoSheet.jpg

very happy with the results,PT did a great job & treated me very well,also a big thanks to rog (powerfiat) for all his help.

Rob could have got more out of the car but i didn't want to push it too much (i wanted very safe power)a decat or tesco 99ron would have seen 300bhp.
the car pulls very well \:o i love it \:D

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456812
14/10/2007 17:15
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Very nice Joel, that's a rather nice power curve too with a nice spread of torque. Must give a nice kick around 3.5k. \:D

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456813
14/10/2007 17:15
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not too shabby, what other mods have you got on the car?

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456842
14/10/2007 18:11
14/10/2007 18:11

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it just keeps pulling & pulling \:D

my mods are-

ultraspool turbo
pro alloy fmic
pro alloy sip
fuel pump
helix organic clutch
powerflow catback exhaust (standard cat)
blitz i colour boost controller

i think thats about it, excluding suspension & brakes.

i use the car everyday so i didn't want to go too extreme

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456844
14/10/2007 18:21
14/10/2007 18:21

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What boost were you running?

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456915
14/10/2007 20:34
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1.3 bar

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456945
14/10/2007 21:20
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Looks good matey. \:\)

I'll be looking for a turbo myself in the New Year so was interested to see how this would perform.

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #456961
14/10/2007 21:38
14/10/2007 21:38

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i think it's a good compromise between the superspool & the gtir's,which is just what i was after,it holds 1.1 bar at the redline

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457039
14/10/2007 23:11
14/10/2007 23:11
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Very nice joel.
Does Ultra spool come with T25 and V-band?

I see that you have max hp at 6849 rpm. Isn´t the rev limiter set to 6800 rpm?


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Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: Freddan72] #457054
14/10/2007 23:25
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i thought the rev limiter was 7000rpm?

very nice results \:\)

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457071
14/10/2007 23:36
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nice results \:\)

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457083
14/10/2007 23:50
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It is a nice result, however, I think you could probably get even more low dow, your on-boost torque seems to be coming in a little later than might be expected ... maybe the FMIC is causing this (or it might just be the way that Perfect Touch set up their rolling road)? It would be interesting to see what results this turbo would give with a Pace SMIC and Chargecooler.

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457105
15/10/2007 00:26
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i thought the torque came in a bit late but no complaints from driving it, it just seems to pull & pull \:\)

it would be nice to have some on rd comparisons with other modded coops

Last edited by joel; 15/10/2007 00:27.
Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457132
15/10/2007 01:00
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 Originally Posted By: joel
i thought the torque came in a bit late but no complaints from driving it, it just seems to pull & pull \:\)

it would be nice to have some on rd comparisons with other modded coops


Your more than welcome to come up for a spool up war!! \:D

Ross

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457446
15/10/2007 12:01
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 Originally Posted By: eldinho
i thought the rev limiter was 7000rpm?

very nice results \:\)
In the manual I have is says:

When the engine speed exceeds 6800 rpm, the ECU reduces the fuel injector driving times so as not to exceed this value.

If the engine speed exceeds 7013 rpm, the ECU activates the "fuel cut-off" function, resuming driving of the injectors when speed falls below 6800 rpm.


Maybe I have misunderstood it? Or maybe PT has done something to the rev limiter?? \:o

Joel look at my result for comparison \:\)
Original turbo, FMIC, Gtec2 and other mods


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https://youtu.be/O9qrLj3Ap00 Now FCP Stage3!
Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: Freddan72] #457489
15/10/2007 14:12
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Good results. What were the gains from the re-map i.e what did you have beforehand?

Mark

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457659
15/10/2007 16:53
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freddan as you can see from my graph, it's still pulling well to the redline 7k rpm.

i never ran any boost on the ultraspool before mapping (too risky) so didn't have any power figures, i was running 152bhp on my old setup before the ultraspool,fmic & sip

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457904
15/10/2007 20:22
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I'm getting full boost (17psi atm) at 2,600rpm since fitting the FMIC & SI and it is still holding 15psi at the redline. That seems like extremely early boost compared to you guys on T28s showing dyno graphs. I really want to get mine mapped now and get a figure up \:\)


F****** b****** thing...
Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #457944
15/10/2007 21:04
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 Originally Posted By: joel
freddan as you can see from my graph, it's still pulling well to the redline 7k rpm.

Okay, then PT must have changed something when they mapped your car ;\)


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https://youtu.be/O9qrLj3Ap00 Now FCP Stage3!
Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: Freddan72] #459239
17/10/2007 00:58
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Isn't the power and torque curve meant to cross as 5250rpm?

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459272
17/10/2007 01:25
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it did on my old setup but why should it cross there?

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459279
17/10/2007 01:31
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I've never noticed that cross over at 5250rpm before.

It's like that on mine too at 5250. \:\?

Mark

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459281
17/10/2007 01:34
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 Originally Posted By: Mark_K
I've never noticed that cross over at 5250rpm before.

It's like that on mine too at 5250. \:\?

Mark


(torque x rpm)/5252 = BHP

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459294
17/10/2007 01:52
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I knew that.....

Mark ;\)

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459296
17/10/2007 01:54
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Makes me think the graphs are wrong. \:\(

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459312
17/10/2007 02:02
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It does seem to hold the torque flat for an exceptionally long time, never seen it start to dip as late as 6000rpm!

Are you coming to the Surrey RR day? It might make for a good comparison of the Ultraspool with a range of other turbos \:\)

Last edited by Webbo; 17/10/2007 02:05.
Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459367
17/10/2007 02:30
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See if the range of the graph is off, then it might be that the torque is built earlier than displayed by say 500rpm, which would be more what myself and barbz was expecting.

Ross

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459414
17/10/2007 03:05
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The car is still pulling at the redline at 7200rpm or whatever it is set at. Shame you don't have forged internals, as I bet it would still be pulling hard at 7500rpm.

Would work fantastically on a car with headwork and a ported manifold, I can imagine it would be better than OE spool then


Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: JohnS] #459416
17/10/2007 03:08
17/10/2007 03:08

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just wondering how much this super spool turbo costs (parts and turbo)
what bhp should this unit effeciently boost upto?

thanks, karl \:\)

Re: PT ultraspool results [Re: ] #459812
17/10/2007 16:45
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i'm going to take it to the rr i used before with my old setup, they give you fueling & boost graphs as well (suprised pt doesn't) & see what that says, the temp on the day was quite high @ pt.

it would be interesting to see this turbo on a highly modded coupe, with 3" full exhaust & headwork

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